Cranked keys. How do my Suspension angles look?

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So I just did a complete overall of my suspension & steering components, including Moog front end parts, Bilstien 5100’s front and rear, cognito pitman/idler braces, and also had the mechanic crank the stock keys a bit. It’s not completely level, but I’m now sitting at 37” in front & 38 1/4” in the rear, looks much better, but definitely feels stiffer (not sure if I like the ride yet). Hard to tell if it’s from cranking the keys, or if it’s the Bilstien 5100’s & a combo of everything being brand new underneath. My truck has 263k miles, so my suspension was definitely worn prior to this. Anyway, how do my suspension angles look? Should I be worried about premature wear on my components, or bottoming out on the frame stop? There is definitely still a decent little gap between the Uca & the frame.

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Look good to me, I wouldn't be worried about any pre mature wear
 
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Isn’t perfectly level, but before it was about an inch lower than it is now in front.

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Look good to me, I wouldn't be worried about any pre mature wear
Thanks! Not too sure if I like it with it cranked, ride is noticeably stiffer, but I also went from Bilstien 4600’s to 5100’s. I’m gonna feel it out for a while. 1/2” more in the front and it would look even better, but I know it will make the ride worse, and I doubt my stock keys even have that much more in them.
 

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You’ll get used to the ride and before long it will feel like it did before....at least mine did. Unless you are doing extreme hard off roading, suspension angles won’t cause too much of an issue. I have aftermarket keys and spacers, I am at about 39.5 at all four corners.
 
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You’ll get used to the ride and before long it will feel like it did before....at least mine did. Unless you are doing extreme hard off roading, suspension angles won’t cause too much of an issue. I have aftermarket keys and spacers, I am at about 39.5 at all four corners.
Yeah, I don’t even off road at all. I would like to go up another 1/2” to get it close to even, but don’t want it any stiffer then it currently is.
 
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You’ll get used to the ride and before long it will feel like it did before....at least mine did. Unless you are doing extreme hard off roading, suspension angles won’t cause too much of an issue. I have aftermarket keys and spacers, I am at about 39.5 at all four corners.
Are you running aftermarket upper control arms? That seems pretty steep in front, from what I’ve read?
 

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Yeah, I don’t even off road at all. I would like to go up another 1/2” to get it close to even, but don’t want it any stiffer then it currently is.
I have the same truck and mine rides fine. I really don’t think it will be any stiffer if you add larger keys and spacers.
 
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I have the same truck and mine rides fine. I really don’t think it will be any stiffer if you add larger keys and spacers.
I don’t want the rear higher, just want the front to be about 37.5” or 38”
 

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I don’t want the rear higher, just want the front to be about 37.5” or 38”
With my stock keys cranked all the way, I was about 1/4 inch lower in the front. Looked level but if you measured it, you would get different numbers. I would just crank the Stocks up to where you want it and leave it. Make sure you get it lined up.
 

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So I just did a complete overall of my suspension & steering components, including Moog front end parts, Bilstien 5100’s front and rear, cognito pitman/idler braces, and also had the mechanic crank the stock keys a bit. It’s not completely level, but I’m now sitting at 37” in front & 38 1/4” in the rear, looks much better, but definitely feels stiffer (not sure if I like the ride yet). Hard to tell if it’s from cranking the keys, or if it’s the Bilstien 5100’s & a combo of everything being brand new underneath. My truck has 263k miles, so my suspension was definitely worn prior to this. Anyway, how do my suspension angles look? Should I be worried about premature wear on my components, or bottoming out on the frame stop? There is definitely still a decent little gap between the Uca & the frame.

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Give it a little break in time. It'll all soften up a bit as you work it for a bit. Angles look fine, you could probably get a little more out of it without ill effect. How do the jounce stops look?
 
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Give it a little break in time. It'll all soften up a bit as you work it for a bit. Angles look fine, you could probably get a little more out of it without ill effect. How do the jounce stops look?


Thanks for all the replies guys. I’m slowly getting used to it. I think what killed me, I took a 200+ mike drive on the worst highway in Northern California the day after I got it done, and I wasn’t used to the former ride yet. Hopefully I get used to it.

The jounce stops were the only thing I didn’t change, as they were still good. But I do notice they aren’t touching the LCA anymore, since it’s cranked. Aren’t they supposed to touch?

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Thanks for all the replies guys. I’m slowly getting used to it. I think what killed me, I took a 200+ mike drive on the worst highway in Northern California the day after I got it done, and I wasn’t used to the former ride yet. Hopefully I get used to it.

The jounce stops were the only thing I didn’t change, as they were still good. But I do notice they aren’t touching the LCA anymore, since it’s cranked. Aren’t they supposed to touch?

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Yes, they are. There are some taller ones available, or you can put pancake bumpers on the lca to bridge the gap.
 

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Where can I get the taller ones?

I forgot you have a z71. Yours might be as tall as they get already. There is a sets looks like a beehive, but I'm not sure if they're taller. Search "jounce stops" and a couple threads will come up.
 
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So yeah, either it’s starting to break in, or I’m getting more used to it, because the ride quality is starting to feel a little better to me.
 

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