BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

[Eighthtry]

Thank you. Makes sense.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

Gm should offer a buyout of the current L87 equipped/ affected vehicles deducting costs for mileage. Offer replacement vehicles if desired at employee pricing. Gm can then repair the vehicles at their own pace and get good will from their customers and sell the repaired vehicles when ready.

I know I know never going to happen

 

[AEHaas]

To those who got the letter to bring your car in now for testing - Is there a time limit on those notices? My truck has 3,000 miles on the current oil and I want to change it. It would be a waste to do so then get the second letter saying to bring it in now. I got the recall letter that tells me I have to wait for parts.

Ali

 

[Stbentoak]

Scroll back a few pages. I posted my analysis. And yes, you will be able to see it coming.
I plan to do an analysis after every one of my oil changes which I'll be doing at 3000 mile intervals.
Also Lake Speed did a couple videos on this recall and the benefit of analysis.

Why would you pour money into excessive changes of oil and analyses? If you have a defective engine with out of tolerance parts....it will eventually fail at an undetermined point whether you do this or not....I certainly would maintain it to schedule but I certainly wouldn't "coddle" it.... It's not like you can plan its demise down to the day or the week......

 

[vcode]

To those who got the letter to bring your car in now for testing - Is there a time limit on those notices? My truck has 3,000 miles on the current oil and I want to change it. It would be a waste to do so then get the second letter saying to bring it in now. I got the recall letter that tells me I have to wait for parts.

Ali

I got the airbag recall a year before they had parts.

 

[vcode]

Why would you pour money into excessive changes of oil and analyses? If you have a defective engine with out of tolerance parts....it will eventually fail at an undetermined point whether you do this or not....I certainly would maintain it to schedule but I certainly wouldn't "coddle" it.... It's not like you can plan its demise down to the day or the week......

Yeah I doubt GM will replace an engine based on an oil analysis report....

 

[DontTaseMeBro]

Thanks -- but I was asking @DontTaseMeBro what he was referring to.

Those of us who've had their engine replaced at least once before.

 

[KMeloney]

Gm should offer a buyout of the current L87 equipped/ affected vehicles deducting costs for mileage. Offer replacement vehicles if desired at employee pricing. Gm can then repair the vehicles at their own pace and get good will from their customers and sell the repaired vehicles when ready.

...Except that GM would likely go out of business going this route.

 

[MishawakaKirk]

Service Manager where I went told me he had 16 L87 in and tested this month and 4 failed. Not a huge sample size but 25%

Today I happened to be going by a Chevy dealer, and basically did the same; spoke to the service Manager -- Have you tested any? Any failures?
Tested = 7
Failures = 2
My math tells me that is a 28.6% failure rate. A far cry from the speculation rate of 3 to 5% everyone has been talking about.
Also, in the scope of things, this too is a small sample.

 

[shb500777]

Continuing to monitor the thread... Got my "you will get a 2nd letter", letter in the mail yesterday.

 

[machete31]

Can anyone give any insight on why some dealers are able to perform the tests at this point and some claim they haven't gotten any direction from GM. My dealer is what I'd call an average size dealer, definitely not a superstore large city dealer, but not a small one with a 10-15 car lot and claims GM hasn't given them the procedure, direction, fix, etc. Does my dealer just suck or not care, not pushing GM hard enough?

 

[KMeloney]

Can anyone give any insight on why some dealers are able to perform the tests at this point and some claim they haven't gotten any direction from GM. My dealer is what I'd call an average size dealer, definitely not a superstore large city dealer, but not a small one with a 10-15 car lot and claims GM hasn't given them the procedure, direction, fix, etc. Does my dealer just suck or not care, not pushing GM hard enough?

I’ve got the same question. My local dealer had 2 Yukons and an Escalade with blown engines on their lot LAST year, long before the bulletin came out… So theyRW well aware of the problem(s), but don’t have anything from GM in preparation for testing on any 6.2s that come in since the bulletin.

 

[Antonm]

Can anyone give any insight on why some dealers are able to perform the tests at this point and some claim they haven't gotten any direction from GM. My dealer is what I'd call an average size dealer, definitely not a superstore large city dealer, but not a small one with a 10-15 car lot and claims GM hasn't given them the procedure, direction, fix, etc. Does my dealer just suck or not care, not pushing GM hard enough?

Most dealerships are franchise owned by individuals. The pico-scope cost money to buy and it requires at least one tech to attend some training on how to use it (which cost time, lost work, and money).

They probably haven't gotten their managements approval to spend the money needed to buy the pico-scope and train the techs yet, and blowing smoke up your *** saying its GM fault is better than telling you they're cheap and slow to act.
...

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Today I happened to be going by a Chevy dealer, and basically did the same; spoke to the service Manager -- Have you tested any? Any failures?
Tested = 7
Failures = 2
My math tells me that is a 28.6% failure rate. A far cry from the speculation rate of 3 to 5% everyone has been talking about.
Also, in the scope of things, this too is a small sample.

Perhaps GM has a better idea than John Q. Public about which VINs are most at risk, and is opening the recall for those first? I think most dealers have sold way more than 7 6.2's...so lets get to a statistically valid sample before applying too much faith in the ratio of goods:bads.

I had the Picoscope test last week, left w/ a new 0-40 cap, and a 150k Mile Engine Warranty for this issue (crank bearings and rods).

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

I’ve got the same question. My local dealer had 2 Yukons and an Escalade with blown engines on their lot LAST year, long before the bulletin came out… So theyRW well aware of the problem(s), but don’t have anything from GM in preparation for testing on any 6.2s that come in since the bulletin.

My gut says they are either not paying attention, or are not telling you the truth.

GM Communicated to the dealers on several occasopoms in April, review the 19 documents here under the engine failure recall --> https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2022/GMC/YUKON%2520XL/SUV/4WD#recalls

The specific one about getting the picoscope is this one.

But, net, the dealer got copies of all those TSB's, plus more info in Service Information, I would guess.

 

[Fless]

My gut says they are either not paying attention, or are not telling you the truth.

GM Communicated to the dealers on several occasopoms in April, review the 19 documents here under the engine failure recall --> https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2022/GMC/YUKON%2520XL/SUV/4WD#recalls

The specific one about getting the picoscope is this one.

But, net, the dealer got copies of all those TSB's, plus more info in Service Information, I would guess.

Note that, based on that second link, all US and Canadian GM dealers were sent a Picoscope in 2015.

 

[vcode]

Can anyone give any insight on why some dealers are able to perform the tests at this point and some claim they haven't gotten any direction from GM. My dealer is what I'd call an average size dealer, definitely not a superstore large city dealer, but not a small one with a 10-15 car lot and claims GM hasn't given them the procedure, direction, fix, etc. Does my dealer just suck or not care, not pushing GM hard enough?

Print out the recall notice and the test procedure and take it to the dealer. Ask them why you have no problem finding the remedy. Unless all the VIN numbers they sold are in the "second letter" batch.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

Perhaps GM has a better idea than John Q. Public about which VINs are most at risk, and is opening the recall for those first? I think most dealers have sold way more than 7 6.2's...so lets get to a statistically valid sample before applying too much faith in the ratio of goods:bads.

I had the Picoscope test last week, left w/ a new 0-40 cap, and a 150k Mile Engine Warranty for this issue (crank bearings and rods).

Did you get the second letter?

If so how long between letters?

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Did you get the second letter?

If so how long between letters?

FWIW, I only received one letter. It said my remedy was available and to make an appointment. My dealer also called me the day my VIN was released and I actually had my inspection (passed) and oil change and new cap the day before my letter arrived.

Now, they are “phasing” this rollout; likely to make sure parts are available. So perhaps people who haven’t gotten their vehicle past “Incomplete, Remedy Not Available” phase are being told by some dealers that they have no information (which would be a bad way of doing business).

Nonetheless, the dealers are all completely informed. Whether their customer service is up to par is a different story. But the whole story is available to them and they can access it in your Vehicles Information on GM’s system.

 

[vcode]

FWIW, I only received one letter. It said my remedy was available and to make an appointment. My dealer also called me the day my VIN was released and I actually had my inspection (passed) and oil change and new cap the day before my letter arrived.

Now, they are “phasing” this rollout; likely to make sure parts are available. So perhaps people who haven’t gotten their vehicle past “Incomplete, Remedy Not Available” phase are being told by some dealers that they have no information (which would be a bad way of doing business).

Nonetheless, the dealers are all completely informed. Whether their customer service is up to par is a different story. But the whole story is available to them and they can access it in your Vehicles Information on GM’s system.

Yep, just like the airbag recall. My dealer had 5 in stock, but would not perform the recall until my VIN was released.