Below msrp or invoice

[EducatorDan]

Reckon the GMC brand will win back their older customers who've been run off by their dealership's high market-rate adjustment pricing ?

It's not like this younger-adult generation has the money to buy 100k SUV's and pickups.. or even the desire to own automobiles, I have grandkids to whom I've given cars but yet prefer to use Lyft or Uber.

The dealership model can go to hell. I ought to be able to go online and customize to my heart's content and place an order (which i know is Tesla's model.)

I'm 45 years old and prior to Covid I never thought I'd see the day you could walk into a dealership and you'd offer to buy something AT MSRP and they'd refuse because that wasn't enough money. (Baring actual collector cars.)

 

[greg_tahoe84]

The dealership model can go to hell. I ought to be able to go online and customize to my heart's content and place an order (which i know is Tesla's model.)

I'm 45 years old and prior to Covid I never thought I'd see the day you could walk into a dealership and you'd offer to buy something AT MSRP and they'd refuse because that wasn't enough money. (Baring actual collector cars.)

Buying a car is such a stressful experience. I hate it. It had gotten worse with this market and their unwillingness to play ball.

 

[TrucksNStuff]

so is MSRP still a decent deal out there right now for a Z71, or will I regret it in a few months because we expect them to start dropping prices? I’ve got a 2nd kid on the way and found a dealer offering a loaded Z71 (air ride, max tow, Lux package, sunroof) for MSRP -$500 for military. My $1000 Costco incentive expired yesterday and the vehicle ETA is just a few days after the incentive expired. Back in the day I feel like most dealers would have honored the incentive anyways and eaten the cost difference

 

[GoNoGo]

I vowed to never order a vehicle after a bad experience 25 years ago, so I'm fortunate to enjoy surfing GM's inventory on GMC, Cadillac and Chevy's dot-com websites looking for my best deal..

..of course being retired helps

 

[repairman54]

Buying a car is such a stressful experience. I hate it. It had gotten worse with this market and their unwillingness to play ball.

Way less stressful than buying a house or even worse getting divorced. That's real stress.

 

[EducatorDan]

so is MSRP still a decent deal out there right now for a Z71, or will I regret it in a few months because we expect them to start dropping prices? I’ve got a 2nd kid on the way and found a dealer offering a loaded Z71 (air ride, max tow, Lux package, sunroof) for MSRP -$500 for military. My $1000 Costco incentive expired yesterday and the vehicle ETA is just a few days after the incentive expired. Back in the day I feel like most dealers would have honored the incentive anyways and eaten the cost difference

A dealer who had respect for his customer would. But I don't think AT MSRP is a bad deal right now.

 

[Polo08816]

They will milk the “shortage” on SUVs until they can no longer make an extra buck. I just hope the dealers charging these outrageous up charges are named and shamed to avoid in the future.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/01/gm-sales-figures-numbers-results-united-states-q4-2022/

By Q2 2023, I believe GM is going to match or surpass pre pandemic production levels. The question is how quickly pent up demand will be satisfied and, therefore, how soon will inventory of these SUVs start stacking up on dealer lots. My prediction is that by the end of Q4 of 2023, the amount of GM full size SUV inventory will be noticeable on dealer lots.

 

[ktpinnacle]

Reckon the GMC brand will win back their older customers who've been run off by their dealership's high market-rate adjustment pricing ?

It's not like this younger-adult generation has the money to buy 100k SUV's and pickups.. or even the desire to own automobiles, I have grandkids to whom I've given cars but yet prefer to use Lyft or Uber.

I've be driving Chevy/GMC truck (happily) since 1981. While my 2001 Yukon is running fine, I'm in the right frame of mind to pick up a well-loaded Yukon with a Duramax. But I refuse to get taken. Instead, I've been looking at well-discounted Grand Cherokees since my wife and I are empty nesters and we'll be getting off the highway occasionally on our travels and really don't need the extra row. But I'm also patient.

 

[Oaktree]

Locally (AR), Caddy's are $10k+ over, Yukon and Tahoes are MSRP to + depending on dealership.
The only thing below MSRP are Jeep Wagoneers and its been that way for almost a year now. Same on Ram products.

 

[GoNoGo]

The only thing below MSRP are Jeep Wagoneers and its been that way for almost a year now. Same on Ram products.

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Just put a deposit on a dealer-inventory '23 Silverado HC 3.0 diesel w/magride & Supercruise for a $7k off MSRP, no doc. In transit so maybe 3-4 weeks.

GMC dealers are currently more arrogant than Caddy dealerships with their bold markups and fear tactics.

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[todayusay]

Locally (AR), Caddy's are $10k+ over, Yukon and Tahoes are MSRP to + depending on dealership.
The only thing below MSRP are Jeep Wagoneers and its been that way for almost a year now. Same on Ram products.

hopefully nobody in AR is paying sticker for a silverado or sierra. Everett has them priced online anywhere from $5-6k off...and that's not some bait and switch dealer. you pay what's posted online. It'll take a year or so before people wise up and realize that an extra 45 min drive and they could save thousands.

We're 18 months in and the normal buyer is probably almost conditioned to "overpaying"

I priced a 4 wheeler the other day - felt like I was trying to buy a Tahoe with how some of the dealers were treating their inventory

 

[Oaktree]

hopefully nobody in AR is paying sticker for a silverado or sierra. Everett has them priced online anywhere from $5-6k off...and that's not some bait and switch dealer. you pay what's posted online. It'll take a year or so before people wise up and realize that an extra 45 min drive and they could save thousands.

We're 18 months in and the normal buyer is probably almost conditioned to "overpaying"

I priced a 4 wheeler the other day - felt like I was trying to buy a Tahoe with how some of the dealers were treating their inventory

hopefully nobody in AR is paying sticker for a silverado or sierra. Everett has them priced online anywhere from $5-6k off...and that's not some bait and switch dealer. you pay what's posted online. It'll take a year or so before people wise up and realize that an extra 45 min drive and they could save thousands.

We're 18 months in and the normal buyer is probably almost conditioned to "overpaying"

I priced a 4 wheeler the other day - felt like I was trying to buy a Tahoe with how some of the dealers were treating their inventory

Nah, just SUVs, my dealer has pickups on the lot, they are still selling every Tahoe, Denali and Escalade before they arrive. Base Yukons are starting to show up on the lots.

 

[greg_tahoe84]

I found a dealer located in a place that I am going to move to in a week, that has the exact Yukon Denali I want in transit (Reserve package, air ride, etc). They are selling at ~$1000 below MSRP, but have to get a dealer installed package (wheel locks, tinting, paint protection) for $2k so a net 1000-2000. I am thinking of leaving a deposit ($1000) for it to reserve it. At least there is something tangible offered for the extra charge instead of a mere "market value". Compared to the 10-15k market value price gouge being offered in my current area, it seems like a deal as sad as it is for me to say this.

Anyone ever leave a non-refundable deposit on a vehicle?

 

[GoNoGo]

Anyone ever leave a non-refundable deposit on a vehicle?

Yes, just put a $500 non refundable on an In-Transit Silverado that's priced $7k below MSRP, no doc fees.

 

[jmzvet]

I found a dealer located in a place that I am going to move to in a week, that has the exact Yukon Denali I want in transit (Reserve package, air ride, etc). They are selling at ~$1000 below MSRP, but have to get a dealer installed package (wheel locks, tinting, paint protection) for $2k so a net 1000-2000. I am thinking of leaving a deposit ($1000) for it to reserve it. At least there is something tangible offered for the extra charge instead of a mere "market value". Compared to the 10-15k market value price gouge being offered in my current area, it seems like a deal as sad as it is for me to say this.

Anyone ever leave a non-refundable deposit on a vehicle?

Yes.
$3K on a 23 Denali Diesel I probably
won’t see before 24 production begins and I can opt out or get in line for the 24.

 

[TexasLC]

Not GM… but we’ve been looking at getting a Subaru for our kid and the dealer wouldn’t budge from $3k over MSRP a few months ago. Last week he called me saying they finally were down to MSRP. I told him great, once the OTD price is down to MSRP I’ll be in touch. He told me I’d be waiting another 1.5 years before that could potentially happen. I told him I’m patient. Haha

 

[tom3]

Thing with GM might be due to the factory location? Full size SUVs are built here in the US, Full size trucks are (mostly?) built in Mexico. Seeing $7500 off Silverados at a local dealer with plenty in stock. I'd guess those are loaded except with the turbo 4 banger engine? No real deals on Colorados or Traverses that I've seen

 

[EducatorDan]

Thing with GM might be due to the factory location? Full size SUVs are built here in the US, Full size trucks are (mostly?) built in Mexico. Seeing $7500 off Silverados at a local dealer with plenty in stock. I'd guess those are loaded except with the turbo 4 banger engine? No real deals on Colorados or Traverses that I've seen

New Colorado/Canyon production starts this month. If there are any leftover 22s they should be trying to get rid of them to make way for the radically revised new model.

 

[greg_tahoe84]

Thing with GM might be due to the factory location? Full size SUVs are built here in the US, Full size trucks are (mostly?) built in Mexico. Seeing $7500 off Silverados at a local dealer with plenty in stock. I'd guess those are loaded except with the turbo 4 banger engine? No real deals on Colorados or Traverses that I've seen

Aren’t the tahoes/Yukons assembled in Arlington?

 

[Stbentoak]

Silverado’s are built in Ft Wayne, IN….