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anti-theft save your truck from getting stolen

Theres been a lot of threads about good people getting their truck stolen. I've been there myself so many times that i decided to do this.

I'm sure some of you know this but some dont and I think this works better than a clubstick or a simple alarm. It will take you about 20-30mn depending on knowledge but is simple to do. I've had 2 hondas stolen and 1 that they tried to take but with this mod they couldn't.

First what a thief does(did to my cars) is see if it has alarm... obvious if it does he will go to the front of the car/truck, there he will look for the hood latch cable cut it, open your hood and disconnect/cut the battery cable. But wait, you have a hood trigger sensor. Well a good known thief will need less than 5 seconds to pop open the hood and quickly cut the battery wire. Now say they cut the wire and alarm will deactivate but some good alarms have a relay that activates if the alarms power was cut, and when activated so if they plug the battery back the truck will still not run because the alarm has the relay activated.

But of coarse any thief knows that so they look for the alarm and gut it before connecting the battery back. Now all they got to do is break the ignition switch some how and drive off. This happens in less than 3 minutes, less if theres more than one thief. with this mod the car/truck will not crank even if they cut the battery, change computer, gut the alarm or brake the ignition switch.


You will need a switch that is rated to equal or more of the amps of either the fuel pump or crank fuse. You see where I'm going with this?:naughty:
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Find the fuse that disables the fuel pump or cranking. Our GMs only have a fuse labeled crank this should do it. For any manual transmission car/truck use fuel pump fuse.
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You can find a fuse holder like this or just splice your harness. Make sure you keep a fuse in line with the switch in same size as oem.
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The last step is to find a hiding spot for your switch. Make sure no one can see you activate it not even friends/thief:blah:. Usually is best somewhere where you can activate it with your foot.
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Thats it!!!:cheers:

Keep in mind that if you have remote start, this will prevent your truck/car from starting if switch is activated. But you can always activate it in an unknown area to you.

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btw I had 3 of these on each of my hondas deactivating the fuel pump, ecu, and distributor. But you only need 1.
 
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hey rigo this is a good idea..where can i get that type of fuse holder with that pulg end?? radio shack,auto zone???
 

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I have basically the same setup on one of my current rigs and have done it to 2 others in the past, works very well!!
 

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You can use a 5 pin Bosche/Tyco relay to close the circuit when remote start cranking, and then use any low amp switch for the relay. You can then use a momentary pressure switch under the carpet.

Even better if you do ignition instead of crank, because then they can't valet the alarm, something far too easy to do otherwise.

At Music Systems, used to do an alarm controlled ignition interrupt.
Using an aux channel on the alarm, you would have to connect the ignition or the truck obviously wouldn't start. You couldn't go to valet mode, because ignition on is required for that. If the alarm was unplugged, there was no way to connect the missing ignition circuit. It cut the theft rate here from ~two h2/Eskys a week to nearly 0 a year.
 
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You can use a 5 pin Bosche/Tyco relay to close the circuit when remote start cranking, and then use any low amp switch for the relay. You can then use a momentary pressure switch under the carpet.

Even better if you do ignition instead of crank, because then they can't valet the alarm, something far too easy to do otherwise.

At Music Systems, used to do an alarm controlled ignition interrupt.
Using an aux channel on the alarm, you would have to connect the ignition or the truck obviously wouldn't start. You couldn't go to valet mode, because ignition on is required for that. If the alarm was unplugged, there was no way to connect the missing ignition circuit. It cut the theft rate here from ~two h2/Eskys a week to nearly 0 a year.

yeah i was thinking of that relay so you can still have your remote start but too complicated to explain and build one since theres a lot of different alarms out there.

keep in mind that once a thief gets inside your truck/car the 1st thing hes going to do is look for the alarm and unplug or cut all the wires so there will be no more alarm.

*i did try the ignition fuse but it still turned on after removing the fuse. i tried the crank and it didnt start. remember not to tell anyone keep it to your self and wife or your girlfriend if you trust her enough. all it takes is one lil fight to get payback. lol

on a 5 speed car/truck is best you disable the fuel pump instead of the crank because if they push start the car it will turn on.


BTW thanks BOSS..:Handshake: also is there a way i can fix the title?
 
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You can use a 5 pin Bosche/Tyco relay to close the circuit when remote start cranking, and then use any low amp switch for the relay. You can then use a momentary pressure switch under the carpet.

Even better if you do ignition instead of crank, because then they can't valet the alarm, something far too easy to do otherwise.

At Music Systems, used to do an alarm controlled ignition interrupt.
Using an aux channel on the alarm, you would have to connect the ignition or the truck obviously wouldn't start. You couldn't go to valet mode, because ignition on is required for that. If the alarm was unplugged, there was no way to connect the missing ignition circuit. It cut the theft rate here from ~two h2/Eskys a week to nearly 0 a year.

Can you elaborate on this? (the alarm controlled ignition interrupt) which wire/location exactly would I splice this relay in? somewhere under the hood? The signal from the AUX channel would have to be set to Latching type correct? Thanks!
 

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for the ignition you would use a 611T/
a Latch output on the alarm to trigger a standard relay/
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to use a momentary output from the alarm, convert to 12+ to then trigger a relay across the IGN wire, which ever one stops the fuel pump (my favorite becasue you cna easily trigger it from the remote)

I forget which ignition it was that the guys used to cut into, sorry. It was almost 4-5 years ago. It was under the dash though.
 
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do you guys have any photos of the wiring job you did??

I can turn a wrench, but unfortunately not very good and figuring out the electrics unless someone shows me :Wedgie:
 

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hey rigo - where do you splice the new fuse/switch in? (i'm a newbie with electronics)

Also, if i simply pull the fuse on the crank, is there a way someone could hot wire my hoe? (for a temporary solution)
 

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Very good posting here! Thanks for the write up guys! Will have to do this sometime
 

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my truck has something on mine but not sure what it is but when i turn it on and turn the key instead of cranking it blows my horn, it was on the truck when i bought it :)
 

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my truck has something on mine but not sure what it is but when i turn it on and turn the key instead of cranking it blows my horn, it was on the truck when i bought it :)

lol, that would be cool, if you hear your horn honking you know someones in your ride!
 

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On the smart start there is a trunk release. Is it possible to put an inline switch to the ignition? It would be an extra step to use the remote start, but it would be an excellent safety feature.
 
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hey rigo - where do you splice the new fuse/switch in? (i'm a newbie with electronics)

Also, if i simply pull the fuse on the crank, is there a way someone could hot wire my hoe? (for a temporary solution)

if they know theres a big chance they can start it. because they would know whats the kill switch for, and where to find it. but if you keep it to yourself they wouldn't know where to start. by removing the fuse the truck will not be able to crank even with you key in. so even if they brake your ignition switch and tried manually cranking it by touching the wires together the truck would not turn over. the only way to start the truck would be to push start or hot wire the starter when the ignition is on. but if they cant in the first try, thief will leave it and go look for something easier to get.

thats why i had so many hidden switches in my hondas.

i trust more the fuel pump fuse but thats located under the hood. i will try to get some pics of how to find the wire asap you're asking for.

btw i remembered my friend using a bigger louder alarm speaker under the hood and inside the car. i remember the one inside was so loud and annoying i felt like my ears where gonna pop.

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my truck has something on mine but not sure what it is but when i turn it on and turn the key instead of cranking it blows my horn, it was on the truck when i bought it :)

not enough... u would here the horn run out side and see the back of you truck hauling ass. some people can even hear their alarm 10-20 foot away.
 

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Anyone know where a good place on line would be to get those fuse holders? The three stores we have that would have that dont.

Or would it just be as easy to splice into the harness? Is it hard to get to?
 

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Another good spot for the switch if it can handle it would be the rear wiper knob. Most of you have deleted the rear wiper anyway. Why not just use the knob for that puropse. Right out in the open nobody will suspect. Oh if your up here in Canada Canadian Tire has those fuse holders.
 

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Where's the fuse/wire used for the fuel pump on an '02 Tahoe? If it's under the hood, what is the fuse named?
 

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