Mandatory Onstar?

WalleyeMikeIII · Jul 18, 2022

WalleyeMikeIII said:
Your Navigation is neutered a bit (no traffic, I think), although there was some discussion about ability to hotspot the head unit to your phone and use it's data connection. Perhaps someone w/ a Chevy who decided to let it expire can say more (I am still in my "included 3 years").
You cannot download and store offline maps, and thus your speed limit sign on the dash and in HUD will show "--" all the time.
You will definitely lose the ability to start/lock/unlock/flash lights from the phone app.
Obviously you lose all the OnStar features like crash response, stolen vehicle assist, vehicle locate, etc..
The On Board WiFi hotspot obviously won't be active.
Google Assistant won't work to set A/C, Change Radio Stations, Ask for Directions, etc.

Those are the main ones I can think of...

The even more curious thing about this whole move is that there is not even an option on the Chevys to add this.

I am no marketeer, but my way of marketing it would have been:
1) Make it standarad on Buick and GMC (3 years OnStar connected services Included), adjust base price accordingly
2) Make the Option a true Option on the Chevys, and maybe price it slightly more than the "included" price increase on the GMC.

This would:
a) make buyers of the uplevel brands feel like they were getting more value for their premium pricing
b) possibly encourage buyers of Chevy to also take the 3 years of services.

Instead, we all know what the general did, and here we are with people upset. I feel like this is New Coke all over again.

According to @Dayzoo in this thread, Wireless CarPlay goes away w/ no Data Plan either....hum.....

mountie · Jul 18, 2022

I've driven Mercedes Maybach & that Ferrari 488. So many electrical 'standby' widgets, ..the dealers fail to inform you to attach a 'battery tender" to the vehicle to keep the systems from draining the battery if you don't start the car in a week & a half.

( Face plant )

EvergreenZ71 · Jul 18, 2022

Bigger question to me is what will this do to the resale / 2nd+ owner user who doesn't want to buy into all of that?

2011SSVHOE · Jul 18, 2022

I see that BMW is making heated seats a subscription service, it's just another way of milking the customer. and it isn't right.

SnowBuck · Jul 18, 2022

In the middle of West Virginia mountains...maybe Banjo Mtn, I broke down. Hit OnStar and got a reply. Something like "Out of service area" or "No connection" or something like that. OnStar is a TOTAL WASTE !!!

Chad G 1979 · Jul 18, 2022

The car companies want to eventually make owning a car not a thing, you rent the car amd pay extra to use all of the features on it. Toyota just backed away from putting a subscription fee to use your key fob to remote start your car as people were in an uproar over that. The only way this doesnt go this route is if people dont buy vehicles from manufacturers that do that garbage. The onstar stuff, i have never ever used in or their nav app or anything in any of my vehicles ive owned. It is easier to connect my phone via bluetooth and use that instead as i get unlimited data every month and stream music that way as well.

BladesNBarrels · Jul 18, 2022

Was looking to replace the 2016 GMC Yukon Denali in the next year or two.
Have owned Tahoes and Yukons my last 3 vehicles.
I saw this post and was surprised.
I will be looking at Ford, the Tahoe, Dodge, and, yes, Toyota now.
I liked it for towing my boat and still having a luxury feel.

bunky319 · Jul 18, 2022

Chad G 1979 said:
The only way this doesnt go this route is if people dont buy vehicles from manufacturers that do that garbage.

Agreed...but will people actually do that? It would mean that you should only consider the Tahoe/Suburban and not the Yukon/Yukon XL if you are locked into the GM offerings. I know for myself my wife and I prefer the front of the Yukon over the Suburban even though the Yukon XL is more money. I guess we should switch to the Suburban instead, but don't really want to. Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if Chevrolet does the same thing before too long. Maybe this means I should look at the Wagoneer L a little more closely...

Polo08816 · Jul 18, 2022

SnowBuck said:
In the middle of West Virginia mountains...maybe Banjo Mtn, I broke down. Hit OnStar and got a reply. Something like "Out of service area" or "No connection" or something like that. OnStar is a TOTAL WASTE !!!

If it doesn't have a better antenna implementation and only uses a single SIM, then it's really not that much different than just being able to tether to your cell phone.

UsualSuspect · Jul 18, 2022

I ordered a 22 and tried what I did with my 2007, and 2016, OnStar delete, so neither has it even installed. I wasn't happy I could no longer delete it, I am not a fan of it. The technology gets dated and there are no upgrades. Now that my 22 is a 23, I have to pay for 3 years of it, which I don't want or need.

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