Coil Over Conversion Installed

[Bomba02]

Dealer? I'm surprised there working on it cause it modified and not there stuff. Do you have a camber kit on your rig? If not bell tech sells a set goes in your upper control arms. I have them installed in mine think it was 40-60 bucks. You have stock spindles correct? Atomic has stock spindles as well and I don't think he had a problem?

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Boost is between 20 and 30psi depending on how my wastegate feels at the moment. Roughly 1200rwhp at that level, little turbo is maxed out.

Wow, your way out of my league lol, i was thinking 5-8 psi to start. Then build a 4l80e or could i do a t56 awd if thats possible?? Your truck must be insane man! Do you have any clips of it running? You are now my turbo truck idol! Is it a 5.3?
Billy

 

[04blackout]

thats the thing, they didnt even move it from where i parked when i dropped it off. i had another guy here in town look at it and he said it wouldnt go up on their rack bc it was too low and too long, but he showed me how to adjust the cams and said i SHOULD be able to get it pretty close on my own

stock spindles and no camber kit. i just looked it up, and is it just the plates or do you buy the bolts too?

 

[digitalfiend]

thats the thing, they didnt even move it from where i parked when i dropped it off. i had another guy here in town look at it and he said it wouldnt go up on their rack bc it was too low and too long, but he showed me how to adjust the cams and said i SHOULD be able to get it pretty close on my own

stock spindles and no camber kit. i just looked it up, and is it just the plates or do you buy the bolts too?

I think you're onto something with taking it to someone else besides the dealer. I don't know what options you have where you live, but for me, I wouldn't take my Tahoe to a "stealership" unless it was a last resort. I call BS on their claim that you need new spindles. There's always the chance that your top and bottom ball joints could be ready to be replaced, but they should know better than to say you need to swap out your spindles. Did they have any solid facts on why they recommended new spindles?

Also, I second Bomba02's suggestion of a camber kit. I bought a six-month warranty with my alignment when I took it to a new small shop where I live. They swore up and down that they wanted me to bring it back as I did different lowering mods to my Tahoe due to my warranty with them...I took them up on their claim and I must have had the truck back 6-7 times as I installed keys on the front and different spring setups on the rear - every time I rolled in there they were happy to see me. Ultimately they couldn't get it spot-on until I bought and and installed camber kit. The next time I took it back to them after I installed the camber kit they got it perfect.

EDIT: I went with the "Belltech 4957 Camber Kit" for the front of my 2WD 2004 Tahoe. Summitracing.com is where I bought mine from. Their price was $80 when I last checked - the shipping is free usually if you spend $100 or more.

 

[M Hankel]

Dealer? I'm surprised there working on it cause it modified and not there stuff. Do you have a camber kit on your rig? If not bell tech sells a set goes in your upper control arms. I have them installed in mine think it was 40-60 bucks. You have stock spindles correct? Atomic has stock spindles as well and I don't think he had a problem?

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Wow, your way out of my league lol, i was thinking 5-8 psi to start. Then build a 4l80e or could i do a t56 awd if thats possible?? Your truck must be insane man! Do you have any clips of it running? You are now my turbo truck idol! Is it a 5.3?
Billy

I think there is a big thread on pt.net about a guy that did a T56 swap and kept his transfer case. Its not easy or cheap though. And I think he had to make his own adapter between the back of the trans and transfer case. I just finished ordering up all the parts for the T56 swap in my tahoe. Converting it to 2wd at the same time.

Mike

 

[Atomic]

I have these on mine and plenty of alignment potential, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bel-4955

I had the same problem with not enough camber adjustment. Thats a product of going low, not necessarily how you drop it.

 

[jdpber]

Nice

 

[a4edwin]

Is there any reason guys mostly go for the spindles and not the lower control arms?
My alignment is great with the lca's and my tires don't rub on the fenders.

 

[04blackout]

OK heres an update...

got home tonight, pop off the front wheels, and run out the cams on the UCA all the way, tires back on camber is alot better now, but still needs work. went house shopping... come back, install new rear shocks, turn knob to 14 on all 4 corners, test drive... WOW this thing is night and day different!!! the rear shocks really made all the difference in the world. just leaving my driveway, i could feel the lack of squat in the rear of the truck. driving down the road felt much better (still a little rough, but hey its a lowered truck) and wasnt nearly as harsh as before. i ended up giving all 4 corners one more click (setting 15) and im gonna see how it feels tomorrow. still got some final ride height adjustments to make, and trying to get the bumpstops to the perfect height

altogther, ive got approx 30miles on them so far, and the front upper shock perch seems to be doing just fine... but only time will tell

I have these on mine and plenty of alignment potential, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/bel-4955

I had the same problem with not enough camber adjustment. Thats a product of going low, not necessarily how you drop it.

so you have to remove the upper control arm to install these right?

 

[Tahoewhat]

Atomic -That link you posted for alignment - where exactly do those go? Are those better than the camber plates or the other kits out there. What is the one to go with is where im trying to get at.

I do not have an camber kit on mine. I am all stock and fine. But think i may now need one, b/c the wheels are inward at the top. But have to get other things done before i can get one.

Craig- Told you to go to another shop. The dealership didnt even touch it i can guarantee that one. I do not see where spindles have anything to do w/ alignment. I have drop spindles and my alignment guy did not say one thing about them, last time.


----ENGINE part of my Thread --- ha ha ..

Yes there is a big thread on pt.net about t56 conversion. As well as Digitalfiend on here. (http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58929)

Atomic - did not see you had that tvs in the engine pic. Did not even pay attention. lol doh..


----UPDATE on coil overs---

Since i have to change the tie rods before an alignment and can not do that yet. I have switched my 20's for some NNBS 17 spares - 265/70/17, HUGE sidewall. But let me tell you, that big ole sidewall and smaller lighter rims, made my ride even softer and better than the 20's. Drives & handles better turning wise.

Also, since I had the wheels off, i double checked all bolts, brackets, frame, etc. and happy to report all is looking really well and still just as good as the day i installed. Frame is not bent, cracked nothing. And adjusting the coil overs is very easy as well. Did not even think about it and was actually moving the coil overs up by hand, by screwing the nuts up. So ride height is messed up now. Going to fix it later.

I'll post up a pic of my fine ride later w/ these sweet looking spares.

( way off topic, what do you guys think about some dub ballers in the graphite gray they have) Tired of the SS wheels.

back to topic of thread. lol

 

[Atomic]

They are the upper control arm bushings. They are offset so they push the UCA out a little bit. The cams are included in the one I posted. The bushings offer 1.5 degrees, and the cams offer an additional 1.5 degrees. It took me about an hour to do both sides complete removal of old and install of new bushings never having done it before. I do have a press though, which is a must.

You can either do just the plates, or just the bushings, or both, depending how much more adjustment you need. I decided to do both since I had everything apart anyway. Only a $20 difference I think.

 

[Tahoewhat]

Is there any reason guys mostly go for the spindles and not the lower control arms?
My alignment is great with the lca's and my tires don't rub on the fenders.

I got spindles and rear springs in a kit local. Thats why i went with them. Can not really answer for others & my tires do not rub either, no where near it. My alignment is fine as well, well was. Will tell soon though.

They are the upper control arm bushings. They are offset so they push the UCA out a little bit. The cams are included in the one I posted. The bushings offer 1.5 degrees, and the cams offer an additional 1.5 degrees. It took me about an hour to do both sides complete removal of old and install of new bushings never having done it before. I do have a press though, which is a must.

You can either do just the plates, or just the bushings, or both, depending how much more adjustment you need. I decided to do both since I had everything apart anyway. Only a $20 difference I think.

Thanks Richard. I think i may only need the cam plates for now as it was fine before i did the coil overs and its maxed out from the drop before. So i think may need them this go around.

 

[04blackout]

So can you leave the upper ball joint connected or do you have to do that at the same time? And will a ball joint press work to push the new bushings in?

One more thing... atomic, it looks like your wheel well liners are completely removed in that pic. Ive been thinking about doing that to mine bc the tires have rubbed holes in them and they sound terrible when I turn and they grab the edges... any issues with debris getting up in the engine bay?

 

[Atomic]

Not sure about the ball joint press...I tried it in a big vice but couldnt budge them so I took it to my 20ton air press and it was very easy pushing a button haha.

The upper ball joint is easy to get out since its just pressed in...loosen the nut and tap it a few times with a hammer.

The wheel liner is cut up for the downpipe, so its not really an open area. Also the truck does not get driven offroad, or even crappy road, or rain, so I dont have a problem with debris. A DD truck may, however.

 

[04blackout]

the truck does not get driven offroad, or even crappy road, or rain, so I dont have a problem with debris. A DD truck may, however.

You dont DD your 1200rwhp truck???

 

[Atomic]

The seats in the hyundai are much more comfortable lol

 

[Tahoewhat]

The seats in the hyundai are much more comfortable lol

HA ha ... I bet that could be interesting in the rain or snow.


How I am rolling for the week, till alignment, etc issues fixed.

NNBS Spares on both fronts 265/70/17's. Cushion the ride quite nicely though. But as you can see plenty of room for a big tire.

 

[YukonXL04]

Ya know... Those are much better looking thank our spares haha.

Truck is sick though! Congrats on accomplishing this task.

 

[Tahoewhat]

Ya know... Those are much better looking thank our spares haha.

Truck is sick though! Congrats on accomplishing this task.

Yes they are and do you know they are not that common either. At least from my findings. Its only certain years, etc...

But its alright for now. Thinking of going all 4 this weekend and trying out the ride then.

 

[Tahoewhat]

Got my front bump stops in. Tie rods are in.

All parts are here and ready for install and then alignment next week.

Note-- drove all around today for the first time really testing out every kind of road you can think of and got to say im amazed of the ride, even on a semi stiff setting of the shocks.

More in the 2nd post review. ( since my thread got abandoned.) ha ha j/k

 

[Bomba02]

Got my front bump stops in. Tie rods are in.

All parts are here and ready for install and then alignment next week.

Note-- drove all around today for the first time really testing out every kind of road you can think of and got to say im amazed of the ride, even on a semi stiff setting of the shocks.

More in the 2nd post review. ( since my thread got abandoned.) ha ha j/k

Never abandoned your thread man still watching it like a hawk waiting for more info!!! Lol. I like all the positive feed back your giving!! Well I got that link for the coil over I found. It's for a c5 vette. I don't remember what the measurement we are looking for but they make them.
http://www.qa1.net/qa1_motorsports/...vette-coil-over-shocks/single-adjustable.html
Any way do you think that t bar would work instead of stud mount to get the extra 1.5 inches of drop?
Billy