718frankb
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dropped my 03 escalade awd autoride with the belltech 2/3 .has anybody trimmed there front bump stops to get a lil bit lower
Anybody trim front bump stops?
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718frankb
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Don't cut them off completely. There's always contact between the bushing and lower control arm, its part of the spring rate for the torsion bars. If you cut them off you would definitely have some issues. I trimmed a half inch without any problems
I trimmed off the entire thing metal and all and noticed it rode a lot better
now after having them off for quite some time and riding on the freeway with big dips and such I regret it
city driving.. great ride with minor metal on metal contact
highway driving.. sketchy
I will be putting in bump stop soon and see how it rides but definitely do not cut all the metal off unless you bag your ride and need that clearance to get lower
now after having them off for quite some time and riding on the freeway with big dips and such I regret it
city driving.. great ride with minor metal on metal contact
highway driving.. sketchy
I will be putting in bump stop soon and see how it rides but definitely do not cut all the metal off unless you bag your ride and need that clearance to get lower
SS HOE
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I believe some of the guys up here have installed z71 tahoe bump stops and did not cut them at all.
Took the front stops out completely. Left the bracket, but rode better w/o them to me. Like hoe said, ocassionaly it would get floating, but nothing crazy. Surely lowered it in the front, but now i have them back in, (had none for probly 4 months) rides lil harsher, but feels like i have more control of the front. Also i have Z71 front stops.
i blew my cups off with a torch about 10 years ago. rides great on the highway, bad city pot holes are a little harsh. what bump stops are you going to use? i'm planning on bagging the front soon so i light not use anything
well what I meant by city driving was an average driving speed 35-45 mph where big dips won't effect the suspension travel as much as if you were going 65+
potholes are quite annoying to me to hear the metal on metal contact but we have fairly decent streets where I live
clean95 got some polyurethane bump stops with his lift kit (not sure why lol) and I am debating which ones to use.. I have 2 different types
one that looks like this and from what I've read most people will trim them
and the others look like this
I haven't done it yet because I'm not sure how I would go about installing them whether I would tap into the upper control arm or just drill a hole and get 2 spacers and use the supplied nut
either way I go I wouldn't know how to get a drill up in that tight space
potholes are quite annoying to me to hear the metal on metal contact but we have fairly decent streets where I live
clean95 got some polyurethane bump stops with his lift kit (not sure why lol) and I am debating which ones to use.. I have 2 different types
one that looks like this and from what I've read most people will trim them
and the others look like this
I haven't done it yet because I'm not sure how I would go about installing them whether I would tap into the upper control arm or just drill a hole and get 2 spacers and use the supplied nut
either way I go I wouldn't know how to get a drill up in that tight space
+1 on not removing!! I have been messing with my front suspension for the last few months to get it better. I have completely removed stops- Like said, pretty good on the streets, but on freeway it is horrible, way to bouncy!!! I have used stock "honeycomb" stops, and trimmed ones. I have also gotten Z71 stops and used, and trimmed down Z71 stops and tried them.
Now I have 2" drop spindles w/keys cranked up(cranked down alittle now for better feel), using Belltech SP shocks, and currently trying trimmed down stock stops. One thing I have noticed when messing with the front suspension and bump stops is that having your keys cranked all the way up, or all the way down, is going to affect the suspension rate as much as the jounce stops. The front stops are meant for "progressive" rate for the torsion bar spring, and when added Z71 stops, which are bigger, it lifted front end of course, but since my keys where cranked up, it made front end SUPER stiff but smoother. I then trimmed down stops alittle, and still too stiff, and jarring. I then started cranking down keys alittle, inturn it made suspension softer. I have since tried stock stops, stock cut stops, and more trimmed Z71 stops, and some other things. But again, even with stock stops, with keys cranked alittle down it feels way better then anyway I have tried without having any bump stops in. Personally think these front ends are meant to have jounce stops in place with the torsion bars. IDK, everybody has there own feel. Also something called the Z-height?? been hard to figure out online exactly how to measure.
Now I have 2" drop spindles w/keys cranked up(cranked down alittle now for better feel), using Belltech SP shocks, and currently trying trimmed down stock stops. One thing I have noticed when messing with the front suspension and bump stops is that having your keys cranked all the way up, or all the way down, is going to affect the suspension rate as much as the jounce stops. The front stops are meant for "progressive" rate for the torsion bar spring, and when added Z71 stops, which are bigger, it lifted front end of course, but since my keys where cranked up, it made front end SUPER stiff but smoother. I then trimmed down stops alittle, and still too stiff, and jarring. I then started cranking down keys alittle, inturn it made suspension softer. I have since tried stock stops, stock cut stops, and more trimmed Z71 stops, and some other things. But again, even with stock stops, with keys cranked alittle down it feels way better then anyway I have tried without having any bump stops in. Personally think these front ends are meant to have jounce stops in place with the torsion bars. IDK, everybody has there own feel. Also something called the Z-height?? been hard to figure out online exactly how to measure.
My problem is on a good bump my pedals and all bounce. I have trimmed front stops and mcg drop keys at 2" and there is maybe a 1/2" of clearance now with belltech shocks. How much diff is there in the drop keys and spindles. If I ggo spindles and only want 2" or 2.5" should I use the stock keys or the drop keys?
From my setup what I am learning, and how I want it to feel, with 2" McGaughy spindles and drop keys, I used to have them cranked up all the way, but doing that made my torsion bars be stiff since they were cranked up. I decranked about 4 turns and have felt a difference in suspension travel, and softness. But.... Also cutting bump stops are going to affect suspension feel as well, depending on torsion bar rate. When I first got Z71 stops, felt much better, but also lifted front end about 1/2", inturn made suspension not able to travel upward as far with keys cranked and bigger stops. So it seems if you decranked drop keys all the way,(not having spindles) suspension would be super soft and minimal at best. IMO. I have never just had keys, so I may be wrong, just going with information I'm learning. I trim my bump stops alittle at a time, while decranking my keys alittle, to get bump stops sitting on LCA, but not crushing it so much it makes it jarring. I still haven't fully figured it out, still working on getting it alittle better
I'd get spindles personally.
I'd get spindles personally.
Doubt it. Have someone bounce front end to see. I completely removed stop for acouple days to feel how it rode and never hit metal to metal. you cut jounce stop right? I personally think it feels better with jounce stop resting on LCA alittle. I have found that if it's not enough, get bad sway on dips at highway speeds, sketchy. And if LCA is crushing jounce stop too much, seems to be "jarring" over hard bumps, potholes ect... But again, adjusting your keys, ie. torsion bars spring rate, is gonna affect front suspension feel.
As far as cutting jounce stops, no biggie if you don't cut too much and make it pointless. I would never cut more then 1/2" of it off, and taking from top or bottom of jounce stop will affect the feel also.
Again, this is all from my personal experience, and testing different jounce stops, there heights and front torsion bar rate(keys). And everyone may like a different suspension feel. Pretty sure Max likes his Z71 jounce stops not cut. I like a stiff suspension, but able to take hard bumps better without being jarring, and by adjusting keys, and getting jounce stop positioned for a overall better ride is a tricky game. IDK
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Boomer73
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Mine are completely gone - metal and all. No problems.
