Pull the trigger on a 2023 or wait for a 2024?

[chris s]

Now that GM is waiting until at least 2025 for the mid cycle refresh; I wanted to see if anyone knows what, if any, changes will be included on the 2024?

I am thinking if the 2024 is going be essentially the same… I might be able to get a deal (relativel) on a 2023. Thoughts?

 

[Miami-Dade]

Moved you here from 2015 section.

Welcome from Miami Beach!

 

[Banks22]

I’m in the same boat. Been holding off for a 2024 and I will actually get a allocation next week for a 2023 because orders close on September 14 for 2023 right when the uaw contract ends too lol. Things are sounding like a strike is going to happen! But yea I can’t find any changes posted yet for 2024. The Detroit auto show is September 13 so maybe they’ll show something there…

 

[NothEastTahoe]

Without the changes being implemented I don't see why someone would wait. The price will go up a little bit no matter what, the strike could make it get delayed and go up a lot. Why risk it if nothing serious will be new?

 

[Polo08816]

Without the changes being implemented I don't see why someone would wait. The price will go up a little bit no matter what, the strike could make it get delayed and go up a lot. Why risk it if nothing serious will be new?

I agree. If you're able to wait, you'd wait until 2025 when both the Tahoe/Suburban/Yukon and Expedition are refreshed in the same MY.

Unless GM magically fixes the lifter issues in their NA V8s for 2024, there may not be a reason to wait.

 

[WillCO]

It comes down to the deal you can get on a '23.

Price constant (it won't be), I'd get a '24. You never know what they fixed as they reset production. It's always best to get the newest version of a car design you can.

But I bet the deals will be really good on '23s right now.

 

[NothEastTahoe]

It comes down to the deal you can get on a '23.

Price constant (it won't be), I'd get a '24. You never know what they fixed as they reset production. It's always best to get the newest version of a car design you can.

But I bet the deals will be really good on '23s right now.

Has there been any rumors of them fixing the lifter issue? That's my only worry with the 23 I have coming in two weeks.

For what it is worth, my dealer said he still gets offers from other dealers to buy them from him over MSRP. Best deal I got was a free set of floor mats. I am okay with that, as no where around me is doing big deals. Sounds like if you live near the factory there are some. Are you seeing them in your area?

 

[WillCO]

Has there been any rumors of them fixing the lifter issue? That's my only worry with the 23 I have coming in two weeks.

For what it is worth, my dealer said he still gets offers from other dealers to buy them from him over MSRP. Best deal I got was a free set of floor mats. I am okay with that, as no where around me is doing big deals. Sounds like if you live near the factory there are some. Are you seeing them in your area?

Good question on the lifter issue. My sense is that in that sort of situation, they make production changes quietly and under NDA. If they were too openly descriptive about them they'd get pressure to establish TSBs for previous year models. But I'm not in the industry, so that's just a guess.

 

[NothEastTahoe]

Good question on the lifter issue. My sense is that in that sort of situation, they make production changes quietly and under NDA. If they were too openly descriptive about them they'd get pressure to establish TSBs for previous year models. But I'm not in the industry, so that's just a guess.

I hope you are right, and mine built last week has a secret fix ha! I agree though, it would be a mad house at the service stations in they announced a fix all at once. Hopefully they figure something out and everyone is eventually given a long lasting engine that works.

 

[Polo08816]

Has there been any rumors of them fixing the lifter issue? That's my only worry with the 23 I have coming in two weeks.

For what it is worth, my dealer said he still gets offers from other dealers to buy them from him over MSRP. Best deal I got was a free set of floor mats. I am okay with that, as no where around me is doing big deals. Sounds like if you live near the factory there are some. Are you seeing them in your area?

Good question on the lifter issue. My sense is that in that sort of situation, they make production changes quietly and under NDA. If they were too openly descriptive about them they'd get pressure to establish TSBs for previous year models. But I'm not in the industry, so that's just a guess.

I hope you are right, and mine built last week has a secret fix ha! I agree though, it would be a mad house at the service stations in they announced a fix all at once. Hopefully they figure something out and everyone is eventually given a long lasting engine that works.

You would hope that if there was a change, the part number would change as well, right?

 

[Banks22]

@NothEastTahoe in another thread with a post by @CAPantherFan they explained how the DFM was causing problems with the 6.2 and after the switch to AFM it’s been much better as far as lifter failures and I actually asked my service manager yesterday and she did recommend dmax but said she hasn’t seen lifter failures since 2019 and that 2-3 month build span in the spring of 2021.

 

[NothEastTahoe]

@NothEastTahoe in another thread with a post by @CAPantherFan they explained how the DFM was causing problems with the 6.2 and after the switch to AFM it’s been much better as far as lifter failures and I actually asked my service manager yesterday and she did recommend dmax but said she hasn’t seen lifter failures since 2019 and that 2-3 month build span in the spring of 2021.

thanks for the update, that is encouraging news.

 

[jthoske]

You would hope that if there was a change, the part number would change as well, right?

Not necessarily. For instance if they just change suppliers

 

[jthoske]

I’ve had the dmax for 2 months now. Drove it 750 miles each way to the beach. I like it. t times I wish I had the 6.2, mostly for the smile factor. We test drove a 6.2 and loved the sound and the power.

I do love 25mpg hauling 4 adults + gear cruising 80mph in a vehicle this size!!

 

[luvHarleys]

Has there been any rumors of them fixing the lifter issue? That's my only worry with the 23 I have coming in two weeks.

For what it is worth, my dealer said he still gets offers from other dealers to buy them from him over MSRP. Best deal I got was a free set of floor mats. I am okay with that, as no where around me is doing big deals. Sounds like if you live near the factory there are some. Are you seeing them in your area?

 

[drmartini]

just ordered a 23 a week ago, had to get delivery this fall and didn't want to wait with strike looming and supply chain. really hard to find a 5.3 with other options we wanted (higher end LT with gideon seats and not high country) supposed to be built next week. prices won't be going down and dealer conveyed to me that trim/options will not expand or get better anytime soon

 

[tjs3922]

My local small dealer has a Tahoe and Yukon XL Denali on the lot. They wont last long. seems like GM was dumping some Yukons/Tahoes to dealers very recently. They were surprised they were getting 3-4 that they were not expecting.

 

[Baja_Bob]

Last week I just traded in my 21 yukon xl slt for a 23 yukon xl slt, I was playing around with the build and price and checked inventory and there was one just the way I built it. I got the sterling metallic instead of the black.

 

[Blueinterceptor]

Save yourself a few grand and get the 23. Same car as the 24.