Future 2020/21 Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban

[swathdiver]

Cargo in both sizes is pathetic for their exterior dimensions. Minivans have more room.

Well, my Yukon XL didn't seem much bigger on the inside compared to my three Pontiac Montanas save for width but this post got me thinking. So I pulled out my old brochures...

Cargo Capacity with all seats up = 26.9 cubic feet for the 2006 SV6 Montana and 45.8 for the XL. With the 3rd row down in both we get 74 verus 90 and with both rows folded down we get 136.5 versus 137.4. I've put 4x8 sheets of plywood in the Montanas over the years and closed the rear door. And really that's kind of the benchmark for hauling stuff around anyway for passenger vehicles so they are all sized to that more or less.

But don't forget that these also serve other purposes for which they give up interior volume to accomplish. Towing and have an AWD or 4x4 capability explain that, right?

 

[cardude2000]

Well, my Yukon XL didn't seem much bigger on the inside compared to my three Pontiac Montanas save for width but this post got me thinking. So I pulled out my old brochures...

Cargo Capacity with all seats up = 26.9 cubic feet for the 2006 SV6 Montana and 45.8 for the XL. With the 3rd row down in both we get 74 verus 90 and with both rows folded down we get 136.5 versus 137.4. I've put 4x8 sheets of plywood in the Montanas over the years and closed the rear door. And really that's kind of the benchmark for hauling stuff around anyway for passenger vehicles so they are all sized to that more or less.

But don't forget that these also serve other purposes for which they give up interior volume to accomplish. Towing and have an AWD or 4x4 capability explain that, right?

Dunno about vehicles that are well over a decade old.

But a 2018 caravan has 143sqft of cargo while a suburban has 121sqft

And the suburban is 2+ ft longer.

Go figure.

If you need to tow a boat or drive over a mountain then obviously the minivan isn’t a good fit.

 

[swathdiver]

Dunno about vehicles that are well over a decade old.

But a 2018 caravan has 143sqft of cargo while a suburban has 121sqft

And the suburban is 2+ ft longer.

Go figure.

If you need to tow a boat or drive over a mountain then obviously the minivan isn’t a good fit.

Well aren't you glad to have me around, I do! LOL

It's easy to figure why the Suburban is 2 feet longer, it does not have a transverse mounted V6 and is not front wheel drive!

The Suburban is a great design that has served this nation well in its basic dimensions since 1973. In a way the Grand Caravan has too though it has less in common with its 1980s ancestor.

 

[cardude2000]

Well aren't you glad to have me around, I do! LOL

It's easy to figure why the Suburban is 2 feet longer, it does not have a transverse mounted V6 and is not front wheel drive!

The Suburban is a great design that has served this nation well in its basic dimensions since 1973. In a way the Grand Caravan has too though it has less in common with its 1980s ancestor.

Agreed. The caravan has had more cargo room for decades.

 

[swathdiver]

Agreed. The caravan has had more cargo room for decades.

Ok, but so what? Then folks would whine and cry over it being even longer and for what purpose? If one needs that much room, rent a u-haul! LOL Sprinter and Nissan have even bigger offerings too.

 

[cardude2000]

Sprinter and Nissan have even bigger offerings too.

But not with less room than a minivan

 

[massivespl]

Everytime I seen those newer Tahoe headlights this is what I think of ^

Jeez, I can barely tell the difference between the two honestly...outside of the front fascias of course

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[swathdiver]

But not with less room than a minivan

Oh boy. Did GM start measuring interior volume differently? How is my old '09 more voluminous inside than a K2? If anything the K2 should be even bigger inside through advances in materials and computer design.

Or maybe Chrysler/Fiat is playing with numbers like the **** do with tow ratings?

 

[cardude2000]

How is my old '09 more voluminous inside than a K2?

No ‘fold flat’ seats.

 

[swathdiver]

No ‘fold flat’ seats.

Mine don't fold flat either. Neither did any of my Pontiacs until they raised the rear floor with a storage compartment, the '06 I used in the comparison.

Anyhow, those fold flat seats are nowhere near as comfortable, they can keep them.

 

[cardude2000]

Mine don't fold flat either. Neither did any of my Pontiacs until they raised the rear floor with a storage compartment, the '06 I used in the comparison.

Anyhow, those fold flat seats are nowhere near as comfortable, they can keep them.

*facepalm*

Right. 3rd row seats would get taken out. Thats the extra cargo space.

FWIW, my Denali fold flats are more comfortable than my 2010 Tahoe ‘yank, curse and drag’ out of vehicle 3rd row seats.

 

[swathdiver]

3rd row seats would get taken out. Thats the extra cargo space.

In the comparison I gave, the seats in both vehicles were simply folded down, not removed. So as we can see, the amount of space reported can vary quite a bit depending on how they measure! I reckon GM raised the floor so much to give them a flat surface for two rows and that is they lost those extra cubic feet that the 900s have.

 

[cardude2000]

In the comparison I gave,

I’m not being an ass but cargo space in vehicles that are over a decade old is pretty irrelevant in a thread about the 2020 models

I reckon GM raised the floor so much to give them a flat surface for two rows and that is they lost those extra cubic feet that the 900s have.

Correct. That’s the point I was making.

 

[GTNator]

2020 Escalade!

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/12...testing-for-the-very-first-time-spy-pictures/


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[cardude2000]

2020 Escalade!

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/12...testing-for-the-very-first-time-spy-pictures/


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I’m guessing a March reveal since it hits showrooms in 9 months...

 

[swathdiver]

...but cargo space in vehicles that are over a decade old is pretty irrelevant in a thread about the 2020 models

Well, maybe to you. That discussion was originally comparing a minivan to a SUV and I provided actual numbers. In the end, the reader can take away from both our examples that the numbers need to be qualified to be trusted or understood.

2020 Escalade!

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/12...testing-for-the-very-first-time-spy-pictures/

Looks like a 900 with an IRS, yuck! Just what we gearheads need, more stuff to fix and repair and modify.

 

[cardude2000]

I provided actual numbers..

For 12 year old vehicles

 

[cardude2000]

Looks like a 900 with an IRS, yuck! Just what we gearheads need, more stuff to fix and repair and modify.

Oh stop. 20 years from now you will own one and doggedly defend it right here in this very forum.

 

[GTNator]

Oh stop. 20 years from now you will own one and doggedly defend it right here in this very forum.

I hope we’re all still here in this forum 20 years from now! Talking about the 2040 models.


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[GTNator]

I’m guessing a March reveal since it hits showrooms in 9 months...

That’s what I’m thinking too. It’s coming up quick.


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