26s and wooble ????

[memphizhoe]

So I recently purchased some 26s and when I put them on they shaked like they weren’t balanced. So I got them rebalanced , still shake. I figured maybe I had suspension issues so I literally replaced everything possible and still have shake. I’m at a loss for words. The wheels and tires are brand new and both shops say they balanced out fine. A little back story on the truck is it was lowered at one point and took the kit off to put the 26s on and to also go with a milder drop ( 2/4)
. When I put the stock suspension back on the torsion bar bolts ( adjustment bolt) seem to be uneven. My question is , is it possible that the unevenness of the keys would make it shake ? I’ve asked around and they say the uneven is common but when I jack the vehicle up one wheel drops way lower than the other. Any input would be much appreciated.


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[NathanJax]

So I recently purchased some 26s and when I put them on they shaked like they weren’t balanced. So I got them rebalanced , still shake. I figured maybe I had suspension issues so I literally replaced everything possible and still have shake. I’m at a loss for words. The wheels and tires are brand new and both shops say they balanced out fine. A little back story on the truck is it was lowered at one point and took the kit off to put the 26s on and to also go with a milder drop ( 2/4)
. When I put the stock suspension back on the torsion bar bolts ( adjustment bolt) seem to be uneven. My question is , is it possible that the unevenness of the keys would make it shake ? I’ve asked around and they say the uneven is common but when I jack the vehicle up one wheel drops way lower than the other. Any input would be much appreciated.

The uneven key bolts is normal. Do you have another set of rims you could put on and see if it still wobbles? Do you have lug centric lug nuts to keep the wheels centered? Are the hubs the same size or could you get hub centric rings?

 

[memphizhoe]

The uneven key bolts is normal. Do you have another set of rims you could put on and see if it still wobbles? Do you have lug centric lug nuts to keep the wheels centered? Are the hubs the same size or could you get hub centric rings?

First off thanks for the reply. I do have the factory 18s when I put those back it doesn’t shake as bad but a vague vibration is there. I’ve had the 26s balanced twice so far and still I have shake. I do have the hub centric ring on also. Both times that I’ve had the 26s balanced both shop say they balanced out fine. Let see I’ve replaced both hubs , tie rod ends , ball joints upper and lower , sway bar links , pitman arm , idler arm and idler arm bracket. Man I’m really at a loss here lol. Oh the wheels I bought were brand new wheels and tire and not used ones. When I took off the lowering kit and put the stock stuff back on my whole suspension just feels really off in the front.


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[NathanJax]

I do have the factory 18s when I put those back it doesn’t shake as bad but a vague vibration is there.

26's with rubber band tires will make the shaking more violent/prevalent

I’ve had the 26s balanced twice so far and still I have shake. I do have the hub centric ring on also. Both times that I’ve had the 26s balanced both shop say they balanced out fine. Let see I’ve replaced both hubs , tie rod ends , ball joints upper and lower , sway bar links , pitman arm , idler arm and idler arm bracket. Man I’m really at a loss here lol. Oh the wheels I bought were brand new wheels and tire and not used ones. When I took off the lowering kit and put the stock stuff back on my whole suspension just feels really off in the front.


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Do you have a friend with a GM vehicle that drives normal and you could put the 26's on his ride to see if they ride fine?

 

[memphizhoe]

It also seems to set lower in the front and the driver side is cranked all the way up. The rear seems to be way higher than I remembered it being before it was lowered. Here is a pic for reference.

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[memphizhoe]

26's with rubber band tires will make the shaking more violent/prevalent




Do you have a friend with a GM vehicle that drives normal and you could put the 26's on his ride to see if they ride fine?

I actually do . My brother in law has a long bed Silverado.


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[Rocket Man]

Take the wheels to a shop that can check for out of round tires. Most 26's are Chinese tires and the QC isn't great. I have a set with 2 that are out of round by 5% and it took 3 places until one place had a machine that could measure them. I put the worst one on the rear and the other had to go on the front due to being directional. It's better but there's still a vibration between 70-75. They're Venezia's. Mystery solved for me.

 

[memphizhoe]

Take the wheels to a shop that can check for out of round tires. Most 26's are Chinese tires and the QC isn't great. I have a set with 2 that are out of round by 5% and it took 3 places until one place had a machine that could measure them. I put the worst one on the rear and the other had to go on the front due to being directional. It's better but there's still a vibration between 70-75. They're Venezia's. Mystery solved for me.

Thanks man I’ll check into that. What is that exactly called ? High speed balancing or something like that ? I saw a video where it looked like that “ shaved” the tire .


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[Rocket Man]

Thanks man I’ll check into that. What is that exactly called ? High speed balancing or something like that ? I saw a video where it looked like that “ shaved” the tire .


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I'm not sure but they charged a premium for the balance, like $20 a tire. They advertised they could balance any wheel/tire and had the most recent high-end machine. Just ask if they can measure for out-of'round tires on 26's.

 

[massivespl]

Just gotta get a tire guy that knows what he’s doing to balance big wheels. Gotta have experience

 

[memphizhoe]

Just gotta get a tire guy that knows what he’s doing to balance big wheels. Gotta have experience

The second shop that balanced them was a custom wheels shop . I think I’m just gonna take it to a shop and try to explain my situation and see if the can check it out and see if I have a bad part or something.


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[massivespl]

The second shop that balanced them was a custom wheels shop . I think I’m just gonna take it to a shop and try to explain my situation and see if the can check it out and see if I have a bad part or something.


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It took me like 7 tire guys at different shops to find one that actually knew what he was doing

 

[memphizhoe]

It took me like 7 tire guys at different shops to find one that actually knew what he was doing

Thanks man I’ll try that first


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[Rocket Man]

Yep it took me 3 shops. The first 1 said they were balanced but they didn't feel balanced and a weight fell off in my driveway the day after. The third said that the last shop I used had actually made them worse by adding weights where they shouldn't have. I got my money back from the first 2. I watched the first shop and they struggled with their machine, and it was a new one. It just wasn't made for big wheels.

 

[Tonyrodz]

Yep it took me 3 shops. The first 1 said they were balanced but they didn't feel balanced and a weight fell off in my driveway the day after. The third said that the last shop I used had actually made them worse by adding weights where they shouldn't have. I got my money back from the first 2. I watched the first shop and they struggled with their machine, and it was a new one. It just wasn't made for big wheels.

Gotta be careful with some of these shops. They can mess up a rim by trying to force a tire on the rim.

 

[memphizhoe]

Gotta be careful with some of these shops. They can mess up a rim by trying to force a tire on the rim.

I’ve been doing some thinking . When I installed the stock stuff I didn’t use the tool for the keys. Before putting the stock stuff back on both my adjustment bolts were a lot more even ( not completely even but close) . Do y’all think it is possible since one of the torsion bars is almost completely backed off that it may be making my suspension loose and causing the control arm to bounce around ? Kind of like a worn out strut ? Sorry for all the questions, lol. I’m just trying to brain storm before I take into a shop and they suggest fixing stuff that is irrelevant.


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[Rocket Man]

Gotta be careful with some of these shops. They can mess up a rim by trying to force a tire on the rim.

Oh yeah, tell me about it. I had a helluva time finding a shop to mount a 26" motorcycle tire and when I did I watched the guy scratch my $3000 rim. I always watch when my tires are being mounted. If they don't let me watch they don't touch my rims.

 

[M1Gunner]

Stupid question but did you have an alignment done after replacing the suspension components?

 

[memphizhoe]

Stupid question but did you have an alignment done after replacing the suspension components?

Yeah I did but I’m not 100 percent sure it was done correctly. My steering wheel is cocked to the 10 o’clock position after the alignment .


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[memphizhoe]

Oh yeah, tell me about it. I had a helluva time finding a shop to mount a 26" motorcycle tire and when I did I watched the guy scratch my $3000 rim. I always watch when my tires are being mounted. If they don't let me watch they don't touch my rims.

Dude I’d loose my shit for real if that happened lol.


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