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30hz is kinda low for most every day music. i do all crazy boxs and what do i have in my truck a prefab lmao.

did u every see what it hit? how many db's
in my old truck i had a sealed box with 2 12 esclipse alums and a hifo bx1500d and i pulled a 147. its was a tight clean bass too. but that shit got jacked fml :supergay:

Actually lowest tuning possible is best for daily listening. With the right front stage everything is more dynamic and covers the spectrum.

If it were an all out SPL vehicle you would find yourself tuning from mid to high 40's.

I had 148.3 @ 37hz with 2 BTL 18's in 16 cubes at 33 hz on a XX Cyclops 4000D.
 
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yah isent like 32 the best tunning for daily driving?
 
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haha sounds good to me that what the btl box is set at and ill be able to buy the subs soon because on superbowl bets=]
 

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4th order, huge box and IMHO, 48hz too high for 18's, daily.

Barely fits if at all....lol For one 18. Have yet to build it.


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that pic is a design of a 6th order btw...48hz is will be different in a 4th order it will alow you to get the lows while still getting the high end. you can fit a 4th order in the denali xl for sure. i can fit 20 cubes in my tahoe not touching the back hatch. you can make the box 49 wide 43 deep and 24 high and still have more to spare in the xl
 

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that pic is a design of a 6th order btw...48hz is will be different in a 4th order it will alow you to get the lows while still getting the high end. you can fit a 4th order in the denali xl for sure. i can fit 20 cubes in my tahoe not touching the back hatch. you can make the box 49 wide 43 deep and 24 high and still have more to spare in the xl

Bandpasses are not a daily enclosure. They are too peaky around tuning frequency and the bandwidth isn't very large.

Low as the driver will allow is the best for daily listening. Actually high 20's is where its at...lol
 

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x2... plus you should still run a highpass filter at or just below the tuning frequency.

That means those 18s are playing ~45 hz and up. About what a pair of 8 Inch mids will play.
 

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i had a 18 in a 4th order tuned to 50 hz and i played everything from 28hz to 65hz with no prob. also got loud with only 1500watts going to it. never struggled or anything while still having sound quality. not saying that a 4th order is better for daily than a ported just dont want you to go on thinking wrong things about a 4th order :)
 
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haha ypu guys are crazy especially wrench guy really 2 21" haha really that has to bumpppp and someone make that box i wanna see it
 

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i had a 18 in a 4th order tuned to 50 hz and i played everything from 28hz to 65hz with no prob. also got loud with only 1500watts going to it. never struggled or anything while still having sound quality. not saying that a 4th order is better for daily than a ported just dont want you to go on thinking wrong things about a 4th order :)

well, considering that I built my first 4th order while you were still learning to walk, I'm not to concerned about 'thinking wrong things about a 4th order'.

Bandpass boxes have all the downsides of a ported box x2 (peaky response, chuffling), but you get to trade some space back for the ability to play (at reduced output) below the tuning freq, or compensate for really really bad choice of drivers.

better to build a low tuned ported box, or sealed if you want to do anything other than play boom boom one note wonder 45hz Master P/ 3rd coast rap, or dance/electronica.


For those that only listen to that music, it is a viable choice, though most everything else (and even some of the former) will sound like doo-doo.
They have their place, like a box that must be ported into the vehicle cabin from the bed, or people who want maximum output in a very limited bandwidth and don't care about non-linear response... ie SPL freaks and teenie bopper SPL wannabes.

Last one I built was a T design with two 12s and had a two piece telescoping port to help tune in-vehicle response ~35hz. it Played most effectively from about 25-45, but even on some of my 'street' music, the lowest bass notes were noticeably subdued to the point of feeling absent in comparison.
 
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damn u guys no way too much info hahah this is greattt
 

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well, considering that I built my first 4th order while you were still learning to walk, I'm not to concerned about 'thinking wrong things about a 4th order'.

Bandpass boxes have all the downsides of a ported box x2 (peaky response, chuffling), but you get to trade some space back for the ability to play (at reduced output) below the tuning freq, or compensate for really really bad choice of drivers.

better to build a low tuned ported box, or sealed if you want to do anything other than play boom boom one note wonder 45hz Master P/ 3rd coast rap, or dance/electronica.


For those that only listen to that music, it is a viable choice, though most everything else (and even some of the former) will sound like doo-doo.
They have their place, like a box that must be ported into the vehicle cabin from the bed, or people who want maximum output in a very limited bandwidth and don't care about non-linear response... ie SPL freaks and teenie bopper SPL wannabes.

Last one I built was a T design with two 12s and had a two piece telescoping port to help tune in-vehicle response ~35hz. it Played most effectively from about 25-45, but even on some of my 'street' music, the lowest bass notes were noticeably subdued to the point of feeling absent in comparison.
like i said not saying a 4th order is better than a ported or sealed just saying ive had nothing but good experiences with them. thanks for sharing your knowledge and letting me know how old you are..
 
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Hey guys sorry i havent been on here in a long time iv been really busy with school and football =[ I do have good news thow i ordered the first of 2 BTL today!! im so happy and cant wait im gonna order a spool of 0 gauge wire and we should get this build on the rode i didnt pick the kickers because out here on staten island everyone has kickers and i want to be alot louder and different
 

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