Rosen OEM-like Navigation & Bluetooth

[ptwat]

Thanks for clearing that up. Let me see if I understand, with the DP-1010 and the Metra Backupcam you can keep all the OEM features except the Rear Seat Entertainment control of the audio source- correct? (I suppose one could splice into the OEM harness to bring out the OEM backup cam on a RCA jack, but is there any advantage to that? In other words if the harness that has the OEM backup is plugged into the Rosen is any function gained over using the Metra adaptor?)
I also have read that there is still separate control of the rear audio through the HU or remote.
What is the difference between the -M11 and the -N11?
One last thing, are you an authorized dealer for these Rosen units?

 

[Z71Texas06]

(I suppose one could splice into the OEM harness to bring out the OEM backup cam on a RCA jack, but is there any advantage to that? In other words if the harness that has the OEM backup is plugged into the Rosen is any function gained over using the Metra adaptor?)

I talked to the Rosen guys about this. I am generally uncomfortable splicing the factory wires for fear that if anything gets messed up, the dealer will tell me it's all my fault since there are cut wires. Keeping things plug in play is both an advantage for install and to preserve the option to quickly restore to factory.

My question to Rosen was, if you have done all this work, would it really be that difficult to also have your harnesses separate out an RCA feed for the camera? Their basic answer was that the majority of their customers don't have factory navigation, so it isn't an issue (i.e., most of their customers don't have the OEM camera, or if they do, its wired to the mirror). Understandable reasoning, but also seems like a lazy approach IMO

 

[ptwat]

I agree with you. How hard is it to create a harness to break it out? They could also just have a kit of the basic parts that the user could assemble if nothing else. I would do that if I knew where to get the connectors and the crimp connectors.
I also thought of doing the connection inside the radio from one connector to the other but that would obviously cause issues with the warranty.

 

[ptwat]

I have been looking on the net to see where there is a good place to get the 16 pin connectors (male and female) to make a breakout harness for the OEM backup cam. If anyone knows a good place to get the parts I think I will make one.
Still in general it is hard to get information on the pinouts for the gm nav unit. If anyone knows where to get it I would appreciate it. I would like to know what is on that connector besides the OEM backup cam.
Thanks ahead of time.

 

[synthmode]

Thanks for clearing that up. Let me see if I understand, with the DP-1010 and the Metra Backupcam you can keep all the OEM features except the Rear Seat Entertainment control of the audio source- correct? (I suppose one could splice into the OEM harness to bring out the OEM backup cam on a RCA jack, but is there any advantage to that? In other words if the harness that has the OEM backup is plugged into the Rosen is any function gained over using the Metra adaptor?)
I also have read that there is still separate control of the rear audio through the HU or remote.
What is the difference between the -M11 and the -N11?
One last thing, are you an authorized dealer for these Rosen units?

metra backupcam + dp-1010 gives you rear camera function on the Rosen.

you could splice the gm wires to achieve the same result, but for the nominal cost of the metra piece why hassle with it?

m11 was original system from Rosen. n11 was an update over the m11. The h11 is the newest model (not available for the gm unit, yet) which offers a high def screen among a few other things.

yes I am an authorized dealer for Rosen.

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and you can control the "dual zone" audio on the Rosen which allows you to pipe audio and video signal to the rear.

 

[ptwat]

Synthmode, thanks again for your responses!

you could splice the gm wires to achieve the same result, but for the nominal cost of the metra piece why hassle with it?

I agree on the hassle factor. My thought here is- the backupcam adaptor only brings out the backup cam video. What else is on that connector that is not connected with the Metra adapter on? Another way of asking this is; if the OEM backup cam is not installed, is that OEM connector attached to anything on the Rosen?

m11 was original system from Rosen. n11 was an update over the m11. The h11 is the newest model (not available for the gm unit, yet) which offers a high def screen among a few other things.

What type of vehicle is it avail for (so that we can do a search and see what is new/different) and do you have a timeframe that it will be available for GM?

yes I am an authorized dealer for Rosen.

More questions on this when I get closer to purchase.

and you can control the "dual zone" audio on the Rosen which allows you to pipe audio and video signal to the rear.

Ok but not through the Rear Seat Entertainment controls. Not that this is that big of a deal...

 

[06whitess]

Sorry to revive a dead thread, but what would the bundle cost for the N11 and all necessary for the factory backup camera?

 

[stevek]

Sorry to revive a dead thread, but what would the bundle cost for the N11 and all necessary for the factory backup camera?

Happy you did, I never saw this before...

 

[06whitess]

Heads up... Only 7 head units left on Amazon, but their a whopping 1090 a pop, with 11 in shipping! http://www.amazon.com/Rosen-Video-D...SK6G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299665048&sr=8-1

EDIT: This would be worth it depending on what Synth can do for the harness to incorporate the backup camera. If you watch the video they have, you can set the rse to dvd, and listen to the radio up front, or whichever else you'd like, while it still navigates the gps.

 

[ptwat]

My only advice is to do your homework on these units. For example, there is a GM0720 that fits only Bose Centerpoint systems. Lots of discussion about these units on the Buick Enclave forum.
Good luck.

 

[06whitess]

The 710, which is what our trucks utilize as factory replacement is what I linked. I don't think anyone got the HDD Centerpoint H-U.......

 

[ptwat]

I understand about the 710. What I am saying is that it depends on your system as to which HU fits. I have an '09 LTZ Tahoe with Centerpoint Bose and the 720 is the correct factory replacement for it. You can tell if you have Centerpoint by looking to see if you have a speaker in the center of your dash or not.

 

[savegas52]

As highlighted above, I returned the unit after a small amount of actual testing. I spoke to Rosen about why I returned (to refresh, primary reasons were (1) that it doesn't integrate the factory backup camera and (2) I couldn't find a way to effectively stuff the added harnesses and boxes from Rosen behind the stereo chassis). Their response was basically that, while they understand my apprehension about the factory backup camera, most of their units are sold to customers who DON'T have navigation from the factory (and thus don't have a factory backup camera, or if they do, it is integrated into the rear-view mirror). Thus, there isn't much motivation for them to figure out how to integrate the video signal from the factory harness into their unit. It's hard for me to know how difficult this task would be, but I just don't see how it is a very big deal.

If the backup camera issue could be resolved (by Rosen or by another aftermarket supplier like PAC), I would try again to figure out a way to get it installed because I really think the features and factory look of the Rosen make it worth the investment.

what was rosens return policy?

 

[ponchai]

OEM Backup Camera Wire Color

This unit refurbished is now $545 through eBay. I bought this unit for the price, brand and features. This is the 2nd generation refurbished unit as it says. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321020003647?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Can anyone please tell me from the OEM harness (brown connector) which color wire is the video wire? I am installing this unit myself and now running into the issue of the backup camera. So the details through eBay say it needs to be hard-wired into the navigation unit (w/Bose centerpoint unit and harness).

So I assume I need the live video wire(blue in color) and connect this into the blue wire labeled "back" on the new harness that is then connected to the Rosen unit.

I have a 07 Yukon XL Denali (new body) with Bose centerpoint.

 

[savegas52]

This unit refurbished is now $545 through eBay. I bought this unit for the price, brand and features. This is the 2nd generation refurbished unit as it says. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321020003647?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Can anyone please tell me from the OEM harness (brown connector) which color wire is the video wire? I am installing this unit myself and now running into the issue of the backup camera. So the details through eBay say it needs to be hard-wired into the navigation unit (w/Bose centerpoint unit and harness).

So I assume I need the live video wire(blue in color) and connect this into the blue wire labeled "back" on the new harness that is then connected to the Rosen unit.

I have a 07 Yukon XL Denali (new body) with Bose centerpoint.

$545?!?! for a REFRUBISHED UNIT?
hmmm...is rosen that good? what is warranty on refurbed units
thanks