My first 2021 PPV has arrived!

[Kevz1088]

Hey everyone. I work in a small town PD in Alabama. We were trying to get a 2021 for me and found out they had stopped taking orders. Now, have to wait on a 2022. Upfitter here is saying that a lot of the interior equipment cannot be re-used from the previous model to this new one. So, that means new cage and console too. What is working good in these?

Basically just whelen ions lol. The upfit cost for our 21s is just over $14k each, including a new half cage and trunk box.


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[bayareadude84]

I'm in Dallas area 20 miles from the factory. We have TONS and I mean TONS of PPV Tahoe's "On Duty" around here. But I haven't seen one 2021 PPV model on the road either


Been keeping eye on local surplus auctions and many 07-14's are popping up

Dave

 

[LT512]

I'm in Dallas area 20 miles from the factory. We have TONS and I mean TONS of PPV Tahoe's "On Duty" around here. But I haven't seen one 2021 PPV model on the road either


Been keeping eye on local surplus auctions and many 07-13's are popping up

Dave

We were going to sell our 2017 before the factory warranty on the powertrain ran out.

 

[BamaTom]

Our first PPV has arrived. This is of course for our GM Government rep.View attachment 271162 View attachment 271163

Does a “Gov rep” really need a$70k auto?
That make me hurt for your local tax payers.
But sweet ride.,

 

[BamaTom]

I'm in Dallas area 20 miles from the factory. We have TONS and I mean TONS of PPV Tahoe's "On Duty" around here. But I haven't seen one 2021 PPV model on the road either


Been keeping eye on local surplus auctions and many 07-14's are popping up

Dave

Dave many 2020s are up for sale. I got one with 13k miles out of Little Rock. autotrader has tons of them., ya gotta dig. I paid $42k got leather seats too. Weather Tec floor and bed covers. Original mats.

I just need to deal with the crappy back up camera..horrible. I get a new Company Terrain every 50k miles. I’ve had no less than 4. Their cameras are awesome.
No reason GM dropped the ball on this tiny item. Like they went back in time.
Really it makes the auto seem cheap.
My daughter has a new Bronco and awesome camera. And the wife’s 2016 convertible E550 is a hard bar to lift, but damn!
As Buden would say. Com’on GM

 

[RST Diesel]

Can you comment on the ride quality / performance of the suspension? Considering sourcing a set of the monotube gas shocks that are standard on the PPV? The shocks on my RST are worse than awful.

 

[Solace]

Does a “Gov rep” really need a$70k auto?
That make me hurt for your local tax payers.
But sweet ride.,

Tahoe PPVs and SSVs MSRP is under $50k.

With bid assistance they're being sold for as low as $31k. Typical range is between $34-37k

Hey everyone. I work in a small town PD in Alabama. We were trying to get a 2021 for me and found out they had stopped taking orders. Now, have to wait on a 2022. Upfitter here is saying that a lot of the interior equipment cannot be re-used from the previous model to this new one. So, that means new cage and console too. What is working good in these?

Orders for 2021s were closed 1/26, orders for 2022s open 8/12.

You're going to need new equipment for all vehicle specific equipment such as pushbumpers, consoles, cages, and lightbar brackets. Whelen has all their equipment released but their lead times are out to around June or so. SoundOff Signal seems to be a bit faster.

I'm in Dallas area 20 miles from the factory. We have TONS and I mean TONS of PPV Tahoe's "On Duty" around here. But I haven't seen one 2021 PPV model on the road either


Been keeping eye on local surplus auctions and many 07-14's are popping up

Dave

Most dealers are just starting to get their 2021s in. My first ones are being built in 2 weeks. There are a couple that have been upfitted and put in service.

Can you comment on the ride quality / performance of the suspension? Considering sourcing a set of the monotube gas shocks that are standard on the PPV? The shocks on my RST are worse than awful.

Haven't driven one yet but talking to my GM reps they do ride and handle nice, but since these are PPVs the suspensions are still very stiff to reduce body roll and do well in cornerning. If you're looking for comfort, PPV shocks and springs are not it. If you're looking for a low to the ground and performance oriented ride, then PPV shocks and springs are the way to go.

 

[Solace]

How are the side bolsters on the new front seats? I have 4 2021 PPVS being built right now and the biggest issue with the prior generation was that the side bolsters protruded out too far and made it super uncomfortable for everyone wearing gun belts. I was reassured by a rep that Chevy fixed that problem for this new generation, but I haven't seen any pictures of the new PPV seats. Thanks

Sorry for the double post, just saw this. The seats are designed to better contour duty belts.

 

[LT512]

Does a “Gov rep” really need a$70k auto?
That make me hurt for your local tax payers.
But sweet ride.,

Tom, here in Bama, a Tahoe PPV on state bid is not 70K! In fact, we can buy 2 at that price. Ours are the 2wd PPV models.

 

[LT512]

Orders for 2021s were closed 1/26, orders for 2022s open 8/12.

You're going to need new equipment for all vehicle specific equipment such as pushbumpers, consoles, cages, and lightbar brackets. Whelen has all their equipment released but their lead times are out to around June or so. SoundOff Signal seems to be a bit faster.

Yeah. We missed the cut off date. We are going to have to wait. We are switching to trooper's silver color (or grey if silver not available). We are going to try to go all Federal Signal if we can. We have been using Signal, Brookings, Feniex, etc. for a good while since we ran away from Tomar. Trying to get us back to a more tried and true line of equipment. I will say, the Signal lights are very reliable. Just noisy with rattles and not many features.

 

[bayareadude84]

Dave many 2020s are up for sale. I got one with 13k miles out of Little Rock. autotrader has tons of them., ya gotta dig. I paid $42k got leather seats too. Weather Tec floor and bed covers. Original mats.

I just need to deal with the crappy back up camera..horrible. I get a new Company Terrain every 50k miles. I’ve had no less than 4. Their cameras are awesome.
No reason GM dropped the ball on this tiny item. Like they went back in time.
Really it makes the auto seem cheap.
My daughter has a new Bronco and awesome camera. And the wife’s 2016 convertible E550 is a hard bar to lift, but damn!
As Buden would say. Com’on GM

LOL, Not trying to be rude what does your kids and wife car have to do with anything ?? seems like your just bragging about your cars ??


$40K+ for a PPV ?? I would NEVER pay that much for a truck that will depreciate in value in less than 5 years lol


I have seen clean well maintained 2015+ PPV's sell for under $15K at auction


I'm in the $5-7K range for a PPV. So that keeps me in the GMT900 model


Dave

 

[bayareadude84]

Tahoe PPVs and SSVs MSRP is under $50k.

With bid assistance they're being sold for as low as $31k. Typical range is between $34-37k



Orders for 2021s were closed 1/26, orders for 2022s open 8/12.

You're going to need new equipment for all vehicle specific equipment such as pushbumpers, consoles, cages, and lightbar brackets. Whelen has all their equipment released but their lead times are out to around June or so. SoundOff Signal seems to be a bit faster.



Most dealers are just starting to get their 2021s in. My first ones are being built in 2 weeks. There are a couple that have been upfitted and put in service.



Haven't driven one yet but talking to my GM reps they do ride and handle nice, but since these are PPVs the suspensions are still very stiff to reduce body roll and do well in cornering. If you're looking for comfort, PPV shocks and springs are not it. If you're looking for a low to the ground and performance oriented ride, then PPV shocks and springs are the way to go.

IIRC, There was a BIG GM dealer in Houston selling new or very lightly new "Used" PPVs for that $3X,*** price. I called once out of curiosity and he said they had 25 rejected order PPV's on the lot and he sold them ALL in 2 weeks !!


Dave

 

[Solace]

LOL, Not trying to be rude what does your kids and wife car have to do with anything ?? seems like your just bragging about your cars ??


$40K+ for a PPV ?? I would NEVER pay that much for a truck that will depreciate in value in less than 5 years lol


I have seen clean well maintained 2015+ PPV's sell for under $15K at auction


I'm in the $5-7K range for a PPV. So that keeps me in the GMT900 model


Dave

Tahoe PPV/SSVs hold their value very well. Most of the last generation are selling for between $15000-20000 even with over 100k miles. Nice ones with 50k or below still find their way into the upper 20s or low 30s.

 

[Solace]

Yeah. We missed the cut off date. We are going to have to wait. We are switching to trooper's silver color (or grey if silver not available). We are going to try to go all Federal Signal if we can. We have been using Signal, Brookings, Feniex, etc. for a good while since we ran away from Tomar. Trying to get us back to a more tried and true line of equipment. I will say, the Signal lights are very reliable. Just noisy with rattles and not many features.

I would try some Whelen or SoundOff. I have seen nothing but issues with Federal and especially their new Pathfinder units, FHP is constantly having issues with them since they switched. Their first 60 cars equipped with it all had to be pulled and rebuilt due to the issues. Star Signal isn't bad for little stuff but their quality is meh and I've seen quite a lot of their lightbars die within a year or two. Whelen and SoundOff are both tried and true and both offer excellent warranties as well as quality.

 

[Kevz1088]

I would try some Whelen or SoundOff. I have seen nothing but issues with Federal and especially their new Pathfinder units, FHP is constantly having issues with them since they switched. Their first 60 cars equipped with it all had to be pulled and rebuilt due to the issues. Star Signal isn't bad for little stuff but their quality is meh and I've seen quite a lot of their lightbars die within a year or two. Whelen and SoundOff are both tried and true and both offer excellent warranties as well as quality.

Our agency uses whelen and we rarely have issues. When a LED does burn out, we're able to return it and get a replacement from our outfitter same day on most occasions. Luckily whelen's HQ is only 45min away and you can't beat the warranty.

 

[LT512]

I would try some Whelen or SoundOff. I have seen nothing but issues with Federal and especially their new Pathfinder units, FHP is constantly having issues with them since they switched. Their first 60 cars equipped with it all had to be pulled and rebuilt due to the issues. Star Signal isn't bad for little stuff but their quality is meh and I've seen quite a lot of their lightbars die within a year or two. Whelen and SoundOff are both tried and true and both offer excellent warranties as well as quality.

Bizzare. Lots of new units here are rolling out with Federal gear and they seem to be working ok. Whelen stuff just seems like the same ol' year after year is all. I liked the older school stuff they had. But point taken. I will keep an eye on problems that the others around here may have with their FS stuff and see if it was faulty install jobs on the FHP or if we see same up here.

 

[Solace]

Bizzare. Lots of new units here are rolling out with Federal gear and they seem to be working ok. Whelen stuff just seems like the same ol' year after year is all. I liked the older school stuff they had. But point taken. I will keep an eye on problems that the others around here may have with their FS stuff and see if it was faulty install jobs on the FHP or if we see same up here.

Shoot me a DM, I have a good amount of insight into the FHP's debacle with FS.

 

[BlaineBug]

Is the knob to the left of the steering column for drive modes or is it for steering in reverse when in trailering mode like the Ford F150?

Also I notice that there is an "auto" button so I assume this is 4wd. Is this a PPV or an SSV? I was under the assumption that all PPVs (previously at least) were 2WD and the 4x4 option wasn't given a pursuit rating, hence "special service."

 

[swathdiver]

Does a “Gov rep” really need a$70k auto?
That make me hurt for your local tax payers.
But sweet ride.,

Tom, what is the story with that avatar? Photo Shop?

 

[LT512]

Shoot me a DM, I have a good amount of insight into the FHP's debacle with FS.

I didn't get a reply. Our local installer here says that they have been using Federal a lot lately and nothing has been coming back in. Said they are a little proud of their product, but that it looks good. I saw one of our trooper cars this morning with the V shaped federal bar on it, so it appears that AL Troopers going that route too.