Escalade vs. Grand Wagoneer

[vcode]

So Jeep announced pricing for their Grand Wagoneer. $90-110K roughly. Is the market so desperate for vehicles that they will be a success or is the Escalade still the king of the hill when it come to the domestic brands? I think they have a pretty big mountain to climb. They certainly don't look the part as far as I'm concerned as some photos I've seen look downright homely. I guess time will tell if people are ready to drop $100K on a Jeep.....

 

[Stbentoak]

I had a JEEP Ecodiesel Grand Cherokee. It was overall a good vehicle to me. Was interested in a 3 row GC or even the GW, but they kept pushing them out and pushing them out. Plus no more Diesels in the lineup... Wanted a 3 row and wanted a Diesel.. Yukon DMax Ultimate fit the bill for me. Liked the Esky, but the numbers started getting wild as I got what I wanted on it.... The Denali really fit the bill in every way, all the key things I wanted were on it too, and got out significantly cheaper... Happy!

 

[TollKeeper]

When I look at the Grand Wagoneer, I think "Boy those engineers are some lazy bastards". It looks like they just borrowed a Yukon, copy and paste, modify headlights/taillights, and done...

The color pallets on the Series 3.. Just wow. Dark Green (called blue agave), Taupe, and Black. Exterior options.. Monotone Black or white? You have to get a 2 tone model to get more options there.

Price tag of 85-105k? Yea I think I am getting a Yukon Denali.

 

[B520044]

I think their interior is much better than GM's, but the exterior is ugly. The body colored side pillers make me think of a minivan.

 

[TollKeeper]

The 4x2 Wagoneer is 66k.. STUPID

 

[vcode]

I was surprised to see an extra $1-2K for a tow package. Geez, that should be standard on any truck at that price. I'm not fond of the chrome around the windows. Just doesn't look upscale to me. A Kia Telluride is much better looking......

 

[Brett776]

I personally think the Wagoneer is beautiful and the wife and I considered putting a deposit on one (reserve really) after previously owning a GC. We simply didn’t want to wait as we travel a lot to see family and friends since our move and needed space. Love our RST Duramax but would not shy away from a wagoneer in the future. The interior is top notch. With all that said I’m not particularly brand loyal and will see what the future holds. Right now I’m happy.

 

[Banks22]

I would say the GW is ugly, we actually passed one in person (coulda been GC) and my wife and I both said ugly simultaneously. The new esky is beautiful, the sport in white is badass.

 

[swathdiver]

Escalade all day!

The Grand Wagoneer has a nice interior but remember, it's still a cheap Fiat under all that flash and pizazz.

 

[2591tdj]

Unattractive exterior resembles a cross between the Infinity and the Lincoln large SUVs.

 

[Fireman591]

The Wagoneer is on my short list to replace our Honda Pilot in 2022. I was leaning towards a diesel Yukon XL but after all the trouble we have had with our current 2021 Tahoe GM is no longer a consideration for now.

 

[2591tdj]

What kind of problems?

 

[Stbentoak]

The Wagoneer is on my short list to replace our Honda Pilot in 2022. I was leaning towards a diesel Yukon XL but after all the trouble we have had with our current 2021 Tahoe GM is no longer a consideration for now.

All new vehicles have 1st year blues. My 1st year jeep (2014) went back 4 times in the 1st 6 months for numerous issues, including CEL's, leaking CV joints, and body side molding just falling off. Don't THINK that it can't happen to an all new Grand Waggoneer.

 

[shegarty]

Unattractive exterior resembles a cross between the Infinity and the Lincoln large SUVs.

- my thoughts exactly. Looks like a bad repro of a Navigator rear end. Looks put the old 70s version to shame.

 

[GTNator]

I think the Jeep Wagoneer looks ok, not great. And I was glad they brought this vehicle back, it’s always good to have choices. However, in my mind Jeep Wagoneer is in the same category as a Chevy Suburban. If they want to go upscale I could see them trying to compete with the Denali, maybe, but the Escalade? No way. Jeep doesn’t have market permission to compete at that level, imo. I bet we see these Jeeps sit in the lot until they are discounted down to Denali or Suburban Premier price levels.

As far as capability, if I recall the largest Wagoneer has significantly less cargo room behind the third row than the GM XL triplets, so that’s a no go for me because I actually use the third row.


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[soulsea]

One has the word wagon in it.

 

[vcode]

All new vehicles have 1st year blues. My 1st year jeep (2014) went back 4 times in the 1st 6 months for numerous issues, including CEL's, leaking CV joints, and body side molding just falling off. Don't THINK that it can't happen to an all new Grand Waggoneer.

Yeah, based on their reputation, I'm not sure I'd want to buy a first year Jeep. Especially one with as many gadgets as these will have.

 

[Brett776]

I love my Tahoe but if you look at the award winning interiors they put in the Rams I think you’ll be surprised at just how luxurious the GW will be. I predict it gets stellar reviews from the car mags. I think they will sell well and compete with Escalade.
Again, I’m not stuck on a particular brand. I had a Ram that was damn near perfect but I got a company car and wife wanted a family ride.
I hope Its successful and we all should, that fosters competition and maybe they will bring the ridiculous prices of the Escalade down.
Audi, MB, BMW aren’t true competitors to Escalade because none of them have the space of an Escalade and therefore with higher income families it’s been the only choice minus the Navigator.
Either way I look forward to seeing it but the Tahoe is staying, may be one of the last diesels you can get in an SUV with the push for electrification.

 

[Bill 1960]

Video just out.

 

[therealbofa]

I’m just glad to see another BoF vehicle in the mix. It’s a shame they made the style too similar to the grand cherokee as I think that will syphon sales. The price tag is a head scratcher, especially in the MSRP+ times we live in.