Don't always trust your mechanic, fixed my "blown" engine for $7.

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You may have already saw my posts regarding the my 08 Esky project and a post for the 6.2 valve spring part #'s. If you did not see the posts, here is the back story. I recently bought a 2008 Esky with 200K miles for $3200. I checked the vin online for the options. It appears that it has every option that was available in 2008. The lady I bought it from was told by her repair shop (she said that this shop had serviced her vehicles for years and "trusted" them) that it needs a new engine, she was vague on the details of what was wrong with the motor. Anyway, she said that it runs, and I will be able to drive it on trailer.

So, I went to pick it up and it ran on seven cylinders and all the usual lights were lit up on the dash. The engine did not make any abnormal noises. Got it home and started to diagnose what was wrong with the motor. I hooked up my code reader, no power to it. Wondered how the shop could have ran codes to diagnose it. I replaced the CIG fuse and ran the codes. It was a cylinder 6 misfire and an oil pressure switch/sensor fault. It had spark, so I pulled the valve cover to look for a broken valve spring or a wiped cam.

Turned the motor over and the rocker arms appeared to have a full range of motion. Everything looked fine, with no sludge in the engine. Then I pulled the spark plug (probably should have done that first). It was heavily carboned or something like that(see pic below), I figured that there is no way that it could actually provide a spark. I ran a compression check and it was good. So, I replaced the plug, fired it up, and it ran fine. Decided to pull all the plugs (all but #8, pain in the ass to get to, will do it later) and run a compression check on all the cylinders. Compression was basically equal on all cylinders. Unfortunately I am not smart enough to figure out why my compression tester will not hold the highest PSI so I had to estimate the PSI.

Anyway, I replaced all the plugs and it runs great. Not sure if plug will foul again. Have a feeling that there is probably alot of carbon in the cylinders. May need to run some Seafoam thru the intake to try and blow it out. Took it out for a drive and it ran good, shifted good, and everything worked as it should. Now, if I could just get the stabilitrak and ABS light to go out.

The lesson is this, don’t always trust a shop “mechanic”. Feel bad for the person that I bought it from, someone was going to get it, might as well be me.

Will check the plug in 500 miles to see if it is getting oiled from a bad seal.

Mike


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That one plug is oil fouled and a couple others look to be starting to. It got all black when it was fouled enough that it stopped firing and then got all that carbon build up on it. May just need a simple valve job or at least seals.
 

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Bought one of my Grand Nationals like that, run terrible, misfiring awful on the test drive. We low balled the dealer and they sold it to us. I was prepared to rebuild the motor but figured it was plugs, it was. A new set of plugs and wires that thing would smoke the tires at 45 mph! Fun stuff!
 
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I figured that it might be burning some oil, however it doesn't blow any smoke at startup and I don't think those plugs have been changed for 150k miles. She bought with 100K on it. Thanks for the link for the #8. Now I just need to change the oil pressure sensor. It is reading 0 psi from HP Tuners. Wonder why there is now oil pressure gauge or mode to in the DIC in a Esky.

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I'm happy for you, yet jealous, yet also feeling terrible for that woman all at the same time.
I feel the same. Poor lady--lucky you. Another example of a shop trying to rip off a woman. I wonder if the shop would've said the same thing if a guy brought it in. Also--they did work on all of her vehicles? Not by the look of those plugs!
 

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Also--they did work on all of her vehicles?

They might have charged her for the work, doesn't mean they actually did it.

There was a dealership in the town my wife and I lived in when we were first married that would call this old widow from our church every year and tell her it was time to get her new car. Every year, she would trade in her current car and get a new one, typically with top of the line trim/option package. Was made to believe that if she didn’t, she would have issues and better to get a new car than run the risk of having car trouble. Don’t think she ever put more than 4000 miles on the vehicle. Anyways, our pastor caught wind of this and explained that she could actually get quite a few years out of a car and didn’t need to trade it in every year. That didn’t make the dealer very happy at all. Sad what a few bad apples will do that taints it for all the honest operators out there.
 

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They might have charged her for the work, doesn't mean they actually did it.

There was a dealership in the town my wife and I lived in when we were first married that would call this old widow from our church every year and tell her it was time to get her new car. Every year, she would trade in her current car and get a new one, typically with top of the line trim/option package. Was made to believe that if she didn’t, she would have issues and better to get a new car than run the risk of having car trouble. Don’t think she ever put more than 4000 miles on the vehicle. Anyways, our pastor caught wind of this and explained that she could actually get quite a few years out of a car and didn’t need to trade it in every year. That didn’t make the dealer very happy at all. Sad what a few bad apples will do that taints it for all the honest operators out there.
Karma, karma, karma! These same shysters fail to realize they also have sisters, mothers, grandmothers, daughters etc, etc that one day will also get screwed over by the same type of person they are. I wonder how that'll make them feel....hmmm....
 

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Wow, great find! Like others have said I feel bad for the lady that the mechanic was trying to take advantage of her, but she should have done the right thing and received a second opinion with such a large claim of needing a new engine. In my opinion.

Apparently a “good condition” Escalade like yours sells privately at an average of $9000 per KBB. :happy107:
 

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That certainly would be one good act of kindness to go back to the lady and be like “get new mechanics as they’re liars, the engine is fine, just needed new plugs and a good cleaning.”

I agree, with out proof she is not going to stop going to those yahoos for her future car repairs.
 
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Ok, Ill agree that $3200 for an 08 esky is a great price but at 200k miles you gotta know the repair/maint dollars are about to start flowing like a dry wash in utah in a down pour! The lady might be satisfied with the 110k miles she got out of it and bought somthing different. If i were the mech and pulled those plugs with 200k on the engine i would have changed them and not turned another fastener anywhere! maybe an explanation for the miss but also advised a new engine. The fouling should not be there, Is it pcv? likely but i would not mislead her into a breakdown on the freeway by telling her it is fixed and she should have complete trust in her 200k mile vehicle. Mechs are F'ed/Blamed either way! LOL Hey how about some pic's of the whole vehicle? If it is mint than the envy will be more profound!
 

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