Deciding what to do with my 2023 Denali

[Jocko PDX]

So my 2023 Denali is on the dreaded "engine recall list".. Sigh. The dealer told me that I would need to bring it in for an "inspection". Apparently if it passes the inspection I would get an oil change to the different viscosity oil and a new oil cap and sent on my way.. again sigh.. I paid $93K for this rig and have only put 9,500 miles on it in 18 months because I still drive my '03 suburban most days trying to finish it off (but it wont die). Obviously trying to sell my 2023 will be a huge bath as given the recall no one would want the rig. Luckily I am not in a financial position that this is a massive problem for me, but I also don't want to take a huge bath on it. I am considering trading it in or selling it. the news on this seems to show that there are 28,000 incidents out of 877,000 rigs so that is only 3%. Not bad odds I guess... Just looking for any and all advice on my situation. Thanks

 

[Joseph Garcia]

Take the dealers inspection, and then decide.

 

[Jocko PDX]

Take the dealers inspection, and then decide.

My trust of this process is minimal at best. My understanding is that the engines are fine until they are not. I personally know 3 folks that have had their engines fail and there was no prior symptoms before failure

 

[the 18th letter]

So my 2023 Denali is on the dreaded "engine recall list".. Sigh. The dealer told me that I would need to bring it in for an "inspection". Apparently if it passes the inspection I would get an oil change to the different viscosity oil and a new oil cap and sent on my way.. again sigh.. I paid $93K for this rig and have only put 9,500 miles on it in 18 months because I still drive my '03 suburban most days trying to finish it off (but it wont die). Obviously trying to sell my 2023 will be a huge bath as given the recall no one would want the rig. Luckily I am not in a financial position that this is a massive problem for me, but I also don't want to take a huge bath on it. I am considering trading it in or selling it. the news on this seems to show that there are 28,000 incidents out of 877,000 rigs so that is only 3%. Not bad odds I guess... Just looking for any and all advice on my situation. Thanks

Sounds like the 03 is the dependable rig. Drive the 23 until the warranty expires, and keep the 03 on deck in case the engine does have issues and there’s no loaners available.

 

[Jocko PDX]

Sounds like the 03 is the dependable rig. Drive the 23 until the warranty expires, and keep the 03 on deck in case the engine does have issues and there’s no loaners available.

the '03 has 295k miles on it and has a bad transfer case. Its on its last leg.. It seems like it might be smart to dump the 2023 before it has issues unless the likelihood of a bad engine is low. I'd really like to understand the likelihood of that..

 

[the 18th letter]

the '03 has 295k miles on it and has a bad transfer case. Its on its last leg.. It seems like it might be smart to dump the 2023 before it has issues unless the likelihood of a bad engine is low. I'd really like to understand the likelihood of that..

I don’t think there’s anyway to predict it unfortunately. Selling it while there’s some warranty left could help the sale.

 

[KMeloney]

the news on this seems to show that there are 28,000 incidents out of 877,000 rigs so that is only 3%.

Where'd you get these numbers? If the lower number is the number of known failures, and if all of the failures had occurred, say, under 10,000 miles, then I'd feel good about the odds once I got over 10,000 miles. But these are failing at various mileages, so there's no reason right now to believe that the failure rate isn't 100% "over time." And that leads me to believe that these failures aren't the result of a bad design, but rather a batch of bad parts.

If all of the failures are ultimately deemed the result of a bad run of supplied engine parts, and I can more or less be guaranteed that any engines built after a certain date are fine, then I'll be interested in having GM replace the engine in my '23 and keeping it. I still prefer the look of my '23 Denali to that of the '25 trucks.

 

[Jocko PDX]

Where'd you get these numbers? If the lower number is the number of known failures, and if all of the failures had occurred, say, under 10,000 miles, then I'd feel good about the odds once I got over 10,000 miles. But these are failing at various mileages, so there's no reason right now to believe that the failure rate isn't 100% "over time." And that leads me to believe that these failures aren't the result of a bad design, but rather a batch of bad parts.

If all of the failures are ultimately deemed the result of a bad run of supplied engine parts, and I can more or less be guaranteed that any engines built after a certain date are fine, then I'll be interested in having GM replace the engine in my '23 and keeping it. I still prefer the look of my '23 Denali to that of the '25 trucks.

I have no issue with the rig. I really like it. I am just not wanting a rig that could fail at any time. I will be regularly be pulling a 5,000# boat on windy mountain roads in Oregon that have no shoulder. I don't want to be concerned about it. That is where the math comes in.. If I new the likelihood was low, I could live with it...

 

[GMCnewbee]

So my 2023 Denali is on the dreaded "engine recall list".. Sigh. The dealer told me that I would need to bring it in for an "inspection". Apparently if it passes the inspection I would get an oil change to the different viscosity oil and a new oil cap and sent on my way.. again sigh.. I paid $93K for this rig and have only put 9,500 miles on it in 18 months because I still drive my '03 suburban most days trying to finish it off (but it wont die). Obviously trying to sell my 2023 will be a huge bath as given the recall no one would want the rig. Luckily I am not in a financial position that this is a massive problem for me, but I also don't want to take a huge bath on it. I am considering trading it in or selling it. the news on this seems to show that there are 28,000 incidents out of 877,000 rigs so that is only 3%. Not bad odds I guess... Just looking for any and all advice on my situation. Thanks

I feel exactly like you do. My Denali is a 2022 with 20k miles. So far so good but all the news does make me wonder and worry. I am thinking about a trade for a 2026, if my 2022 lasts that long.

 

[JayceeP]

When the dealer tells you there is nothing wrong with the 6.2, see how that holds up when you ask them about trading in for a new truck. If they’re playing ball, maybe opt for a different engine?

 

[djnice]

They say the 25 engines are okay. Why not trade it sooner than later?

 

[Jocko PDX]

When the dealer tells you there is nothing wrong with the 6.2, see how that holds up when you ask them about trading in for a new truck. If they’re playing ball, maybe opt for a different engine?

I asked the salesman to make me a trade in offer. No reply

 

[JayceeP]

I asked the salesman to make me a trade in offer. No reply

Go figure! I would reach out direct to the sales manger for the dealership instead. Say while you’re disappointed you’d like to remain a GM owner. If you’re serious, I would have some numbers in mind and throw in an offer on your trade and ask price for a 2025. Don’t be wishy washy. Make it easy for them to deal with you. I would find the next closest 2 or 3 dealers to you and do the same thing. You never know.

 

[Stbentoak]

I asked the salesman to make me a trade in offer. No reply

You are number 13 in line.....

 

[LegalBrief]

The trade in value should be fine, especially with the warranty… lot of unnecessary fear I thusvfirum, remember the forum represents less then .001 percent of the vehicles and that many have already failed. That said the 25 is superior so I would expect a value hit, as is typical if any refresh, regardless if brand. There will be a lot of consumers and dealers with no knowledge of the issue and there is no requirement that you need to say a word. “Let the buyer beware”

 

[the 18th letter]

If the recall has put a stop sale on the affected units I would guess dealers won’t be offering trades on the at the moment.

 

[sanman28]

My trust of this process is minimal at best. My understanding is that the engines are fine until they are not. I personally know 3 folks that have had their engines fail and there was no prior symptoms before failure

You know 3 people that had this failure? You either work at a dealer or every person you know, and you know a lot of people, drives one of these. The odds of this are low. Crazy if true. I’d like to think I know a disproportionately high number of folks with one of these, myself included, but I have yet to personally hear of a failure.

 

[Jocko PDX]

You know 3 people that had this failure? You either work at a dealer or every person you know, and you know a lot of people, drives one of these. The odds of this are low. Crazy if true. I’d like to think I know a disproportionately high number of folks with one of these, myself included, but I have yet to personally hear of a failure.

I live in Oregon and work at a good sized lumber contractor sales company.. Our parking lot is a varitable GMC lot.

 

[clogan2]

In my experience, peace of mind is a wonderful thing. Assuming that you can withstand the economics, you should do whatever gives you the greatest peace of mind. You'll never regret that choice

 

[BillyBoy]

So my 2023 Denali is on the dreaded "engine recall list".. Sigh. The dealer told me that I would need to bring it in for an "inspection". Apparently if it passes the inspection I would get an oil change to the different viscosity oil and a new oil cap and sent on my way.. again sigh.. I paid $93K for this rig and have only put 9,500 miles on it in 18 months because I still drive my '03 suburban most days trying to finish it off (but it wont die). Obviously trying to sell my 2023 will be a huge bath as given the recall no one would want the rig. Luckily I am not in a financial position that this is a massive problem for me, but I also don't want to take a huge bath on it. I am considering trading it in or selling it. the news on this seems to show that there are 28,000 incidents out of 877,000 rigs so that is only 3%. Not bad odds I guess... Just looking for any and all advice on my situation. Thanks

I have a 2024 1500 Sierra Denali 4x4 with 9,400 miles and have had only 10 months... I am in the same situation. To simply increase the oil viscosity is a cheap joke and the owners expense. This recall issue also greatly depreciates the vehicles value although at the time of purchase this issue was not in the equation. Any owner of a vehicle falling within this unfortunate recall will also have the constant fear of a highly potential engine failure some point after 5 year/60,000 miles knowing the heightened possibility of the costly premature engine failure.