Advice Re Buying Used 22-24 Tahoe

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I'm looking to buy a low mileage Truck based SUV for traveling and to replace my Chevy Van. I like the look and size of the Chevy Tahoe but the recall notice and issues with the Camshaft and FDM for their V8's are a concern. So I have a bunch of questions.

1- On the 6.2L V8 once its passed inspection and running 0W40 oil will that cause the check engine light to go on and post a P0016 Error code prior to failing on the highway at 70 mph? I really don't want a vehicle that freezes up on the highway in traffic without sufficient warning.

2- When looking at a low mileage 5.3L or 6.2L V8 Tahoe how to tell if its using a quart of oil every 1,000 miles? I don't want a vehicle that burns oil.

3- I've read that the 5.3L and 6.2L engines use the same camshaft. Is that true? If so then will the 5.3L V8's running 0W20 eventually have the same issues? If I run 0W40 in the 5.3L just to be safe does it void the warranty?

4- The recalled 6.2L vehicles have a new 10yr 150,000 mi engine warranty. Verses the 5.3L only having the original 5 yr 50,000 mi warranty. I keep my vehicles a long time and this might be the last V8 I buy. Leaning toward the longer warranty with the known issue?

5- I've found DFM defeat devices. I haven't seen anything on exactly what they do. I assume they block the command to the engine control computer to deactivate cylinders and pass all other commands? What happens if the module fails? How reliable are they? Do they work well? Would you use one on an engine that is still under warranty?

6- Looks like my forever Tahoe with Premium or RST packages and less than 30 kmi is going to run 55-65 k$. Having a hard time thinking about purchasing a $60,000 used Tahoe with an engine with known issues. While i already have a 2016 Chevy Van with a good 4.8L V8, no FDM, and no Start Stop. Its just really noisy and not a good road trip vehicle. Is the Tahoe ride worth it?

I wish I was paying attention in 2021 when I might have picked up a 2020. But I hadn't outgrown the van yet. My needs have changed. I really need a 2023 Tahoe RST with a 6.2L V8. or not?
 

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4 - Caveat on the engine warranty. It only covers bottom end failures and it's only for those engines that pass the picoscope inspection. If the engine fails the inspection, you get a new engine but not the extended warranty.

5 - They intercept the signal from the ECU and prevent it from telling the engine to activate DFM. They work very well and mine so far has been dead reliable. My powertrain is under warranty and I've taken my Yukon into our dealer twice since I got it with no issues. You just have to make sure to disconnect it prior to taking it in. I use the Carbyte variant since it just plugs into the OBDII port. Lastly, DFM doesn't get disabled unless you go past a certain speed(40mph I believe). Lastly, if it fails, normal DFM and Stop/Start functionality resume.
 

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Especially for long term ownership stick to the 5.3 at least until the problems are sorted out. The 100k warranty means nothing when there's still the risk of issues. While you might be safer running different oil in the 5.3 both engines have been running 0W20 for years with no problems until the 6.2 defect fiasco.

You'd think there should be some good deals out there on them when the 6.2 issue is so known and questionable.
 

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If your main concerns are road noise and ride quality, have you considered adding sound deadening to your interior and upgrading your shocks and wheel/tire combo on your current van?

For aesthetics/creature comforts, there is a TON of aftermarket support for Express vans. Have you seen the new $80K conversion kit vans on any dealers in your area? They're everywhere around me. Just trying to throw some alternatives out there for you before you make a $55-65K decision that you may be uneasy about.

Also, I checked one of these out in person not too long ago and they're honestly impressive, you can get new ones with the 6.6L w/ no AFM or stop/start.

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This van looks sweet. I have a stock 2016 Express 2500 LS Passenger Van with running boards and upgraded speakers. My people, lumber, barn beams, piano, robot, plywood, homemade cabinets, moving days are slowing down. I did an 84 Ford, and 89 Chevy Van once. Don't really want to use my time to do another and would like to go a little smaller.

Plus the Tahoe is supposed to have a quieter windshield. The two vans I did were not as quiet as I would like. Wind noise around the front doors and door windows plus Wind noise against the Windshield is hard to eliminate. The Tahoe is supposed to have an insulated Windshield to reduce noise.

Would need: Sound deadening. Doors, Floor, Motor Cover, Roof?. New Radio with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. Four Captains Chairs. Unbolting and Lifting out the Captain Chairs in my 89 Van was a pain. Much harder than just folding down a 60/40 bench seat. Removing the three rows of seats in the 2016 Van is also a pain. The 3rd row is stored in the garage.
 
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4 - Caveat on the engine warranty. It only covers bottom end failures and it's only for those engines that pass the picoscope inspection. If the engine fails the inspection, you get a new engine but not the extended warranty.

5 - They intercept the signal from the ECU and prevent it from telling the engine to activate DFM. They work very well and mine so far has been dead reliable. My powertrain is under warranty and I've taken my Yukon into our dealer twice since I got it with no issues. You just have to make sure to disconnect it prior to taking it in. I use the Carbyte variant since it just plugs into the OBDII port. Lastly, DFM doesn't get disabled unless you go past a certain speed(40mph I believe). Lastly, if it fails, normal DFM and Stop/Start functionality resume.
Thanks. I'll look at the Carbyte. Didn't know the warranty didn't cover the valves and lifters too. There is a dealer in Buffalo that hands out lifetime engine warranties on their used car sales. Gave them a hard time when I bought a Bolt EUV from them. But if they get a Tahoe I want I would definitely look hard at it.
 
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Especially for long term ownership stick to the 5.3 at least until the problems are sorted out. The 100k warranty means nothing when there's still the risk of issues. While you might be safer running different oil in the 5.3 both engines have been running 0W20 for years with no problems until the 6.2 defect fiasco.

You'd think there should be some good deals out there on them when the 6.2 issue is so known and questionable.
Yes almost 600,000 6.2's out there. Only number I've seen on replacements is 3%. And haven't looked at any numbers on 5.3's problems.

There is a dealer in Buffalo that provides a lifetime engine warranty. I don't know it they do it on the Tahoe. But if they did and they had one I wanted I would look hard at it. Though Buffalo is not convenient.
 

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I'm looking to buy a low mileage Truck based SUV for traveling and to replace my Chevy Van. I like the look and size of the Chevy Tahoe but the recall notice and issues with the Camshaft and FDM for their V8's are a concern. So I have a bunch of questions.

1- On the 6.2L V8 once its passed inspection and running 0W40 oil will that cause the check engine light to go on and post a P0016 Error code prior to failing on the highway at 70 mph? I really don't want a vehicle that freezes up on the highway in traffic without sufficient warning.

2- When looking at a low mileage 5.3L or 6.2L V8 Tahoe how to tell if its using a quart of oil every 1,000 miles? I don't want a vehicle that burns oil.

3- I've read that the 5.3L and 6.2L engines use the same camshaft. Is that true? If so then will the 5.3L V8's running 0W20 eventually have the same issues? If I run 0W40 in the 5.3L just to be safe does it void the warranty?

4- The recalled 6.2L vehicles have a new 10yr 150,000 mi engine warranty. Verses the 5.3L only having the original 5 yr 50,000 mi warranty. I keep my vehicles a long time and this might be the last V8 I buy. Leaning toward the longer warranty with the known issue?

5- I've found DFM defeat devices. I haven't seen anything on exactly what they do. I assume they block the command to the engine control computer to deactivate cylinders and pass all other commands? What happens if the module fails? How reliable are they? Do they work well? Would you use one on an engine that is still under warranty?

6- Looks like my forever Tahoe with Premium or RST packages and less than 30 kmi is going to run 55-65 k$. Having a hard time thinking about purchasing a $60,000 used Tahoe with an engine with known issues. While i already have a 2016 Chevy Van with a good 4.8L V8, no FDM, and no Start Stop. Its just really noisy and not a good road trip vehicle. Is the Tahoe ride worth it?

I wish I was paying attention in 2021 when I might have picked up a 2020. But I hadn't outgrown the van yet. My needs have changed. I really need a 2023 Tahoe RST with a 6.2L V8. or not?


4. The 5.3L Tahoe models came with a 5-year / 60,000 mile power train warranty (no deductible).

You have the option to purchase a General Motor Protection Plan (GMPP) for a vehicle still in warranty. Note that this is not an extended warranty, but rather a service plan.
 

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I have a 90,000-mile 2021 Suburban High Country and I love it. It does not use a quart of oil every 1,000 miles, I don't know where that started, and it does not knock. I have not been able to go to the dealer yet for the recall procedure. I have the Range DFM and AS/S blocker and it works great. I would change all fluids, just like any other generation truck, upon buying it. It runs great and it is the best driving and riding Suburban I have ever had, and I have had several of the previous generations. It tows extremely well; I pull a travel trailer that weighs a little over 6,500 lbs.
 
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Just test drove a 2025 Tahoe High Country. Awesome SUV. But the Sticker Price is out of sight. I have never purchased a vehicle for more than $28K.

Current fleet: '98 Corvette Convertible, 2016 Chevy Express LS 2500 Passenger Van, 2019 Ford Escape, 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV Premier.

I see a Tahoe HC in my future if I can get either the trade-in price I want or sell it soon. Dealer is currently at $14k on the Express Van. Kelly suggest I should get $17K-$19.5K. Buying new should eliminate all of the above questions. Unless GM hasn't fixed the issue. I may still go to 0W40 and defeat DFM just to play it safe.
 

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Just test drove a 2025 Tahoe High Country. Awesome SUV. But the Sticker Price is out of sight. I have never purchased a vehicle for more than $28K.

Current fleet: '98 Corvette Convertible, 2016 Chevy Express LS 2500 Passenger Van, 2019 Ford Escape, 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV Premier.

I see a Tahoe HC in my future if I can get either the trade-in price I want or sell it soon. Dealer is currently at $14k on the Express Van. Kelly suggest I should get $17K-$19.5K. Buying new should eliminate all of the above questions. Unless GM hasn't fixed the issue. I may still go to 0W40 and defeat DFM just to play it safe.
Dealer made lowball offer on my Jeep GC, I did much better selling to CarMax. Also, Carbyte has worked flawlessly for me.
 

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Buy extended warranty from dealer! My GMC Denali needed mag-level shocks replaced along with rears... (near $5K).
 

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