Died at 70mph on I-75

DontTaseMeBro · Mar 30, 2026

LEsoftballdad said:
No, I am quite sure I know how I feel. Having driven it for almost a week, it was a good sample size. Have you driven one? If not, don't project your thoughts onto what others feel.

The seats are far more comfortable than the fake leather used in the SLT. I am sure I am not the only one who thinks GM's seats are too stiff. In fact, it's been that way for years. The last seats I would call comfortable were in my 2005 Cadillac CTS.

Lmao, "projecting your thoughts on what others feel". All I said was that I doubt the Expy drives better. But muh feelz.

One week of driving around in one. That's cute.
Also
"Have you driven one?"

:lol:

My guy, I owned a 2019 XLT and 2020 Max Limited. 5 years of total ownership. They both were behind in terms of suspension and drivetrain refinement. Crashing over bumps, bouncing and swaying like the suspension was made out of marshmallows. Lousy transmission programming, heat soak when towing on hot days, etc. All of that went away when I ditched it for the Yukon. Yes, the seats are known to be less comfortable in the GMC/Chevy twins, but strangely enough they don't bother me at all. And before you claim that the Expy has been refined, I'll have you know that it's running the same underpinnings as the 2020 I had(that generation ran till 2024). No air ride, no magnaride, no V8, same rough shifting 10R80 transmission, same small displacement twin-turbo V6. You couldn't pay me to get back into another Ford body on frame SUV. And for the record, you're comparing a generation of vehicle that debuted in 2021 vs one that debuted in 2025 lol(to be fair, the same thing can be said regarding when the previous generation of the Expedition debuted which was 2018, but I digress). Lastly, will you be singing the same tune in the expedition forum once the new generation of Yukon debuts next year? :alone:

LEsoftballdad · Mar 31, 2026

DontTaseMeBro said:
Lmao, "projecting your thoughts on what others feel". All I said was that I doubt the Expy drives better. But muh feelz.

One week of driving around in one. That's cute.
Also
"Have you driven one?"

My guy, I owned a 2019 XLT and 2020 Max Limited. 5 years of total ownership. They both were behind in terms of suspension and drivetrain refinement. Crashing over bumps, bouncing and swaying like the suspension was made out of marshmallows. Lousy transmission programming, heat soak when towing on hot days, etc. All of that went away when I ditched it for the Yukon. Yes, the seats are known to be less comfortable in the GMC/Chevy twins, but strangely enough they don't bother me at all. And before you claim that the Expy has been refined, I'll have you know that it's running the same underpinnings as the 2020 I had(that generation ran till 2024). No air ride, no magnaride, no V8, same rough shifting 10R80 transmission, same small displacement twin-turbo V6. You couldn't pay me to get back into another Ford body on frame SUV. And for the record, you're comparing a generation of vehicle that debuted in 2021 vs one that debuted in 2025 lol(to be fair, the same thing can be said regarding when the previous generation of the Expedition debuted which was 2018, but I digress). Lastly, will you be singing the same tune in the expedition forum once the new generation of Yukon debuts next year?

So, you admit the seats are known to be less comfortable? Okay, that's one of my major issues with the Yukon, and by extension, the Tahoe. Maybe the Denali or HC has more refined seats, maybe they don't. I don't own either, so it doesn't matter to me. My Yukon doesn't have the magnetic suspension or air ride, so you're comparing apples to cumquots. All I know is that any time I drive more than 45 minutes in my Yukon, my butt and back start to hurt. No matter what position I choose, it still isn't comfortable. Since I average 24,000 miles per year, I spend a lot of time in the vehicle, and I prefer to be comfortable.

Good luck with your next generation GMs. I hope they get the V8s and Diesel powertrains figured out, and maybe their transmissions will be fixed so we don't need to go get a new valve body from Nate at Next Gen.

DontTaseMeBro · Mar 31, 2026

LEsoftballdad said:
So, you admit the seats are known to be less comfortable? Okay, that's one of my major issues with the Yukon, and by extension, the Tahoe. Maybe the Denali or HC has more refined seats, maybe they don't. I don't own either, so it doesn't matter to me. My Yukon doesn't have the magnetic suspension or air ride, so you're comparing apples to cumquots. All I know is that any time I drive more than 45 minutes in my Yukon, my butt and back start to hurt. No matter what position I choose, it still isn't comfortable. Since I average 24,000 miles per year, I spend a lot of time in the vehicle, and I prefer to be comfortable.

Good luck with your next generation GMs. I hope they get the V8s and Diesel powertrains figured out, and maybe their transmissions will be fixed so we don't need to go get a new valve body from Nate at Next Gen.

Yes I admit it because that’s what I’ve seen on this forum mentioned multiple times along with my wife saying the same thing. But like I said, it doesn’t bother me. The additional firmness is a benefit to a taller heavier person as myself vs someone lighter and shorter. Regarding Magnaride, it’s a must. I thought it was standard equipment on the SLT. So my opinion is that a properly optioned Yukon is a better riding vehicle than the Expedition regardless of its trim.

Doubeleive · Mar 31, 2026

from a handling perspective those fords are like a boat on water, just my opinion. I have not had the opportunity to drive one of the new Lincolns yet but reports from reviewers say the same.
not to mention the failure rate per capita is worse on the fords.
but it is what is

LEsoftballdad · Apr 2, 2026

DontTaseMeBro said:
Yes I admit it because that’s what I’ve seen on this forum mentioned multiple times along with my wife saying the same thing. But like I said, it doesn’t bother me. The additional firmness is a benefit to a taller heavier person as myself vs someone lighter and shorter. Regarding Magnaride, it’s a must. I thought it was standard equipment on the SLT. So my opinion is that a properly optioned Yukon is a better riding vehicle than the Expedition regardless of its trim.

No, sir. The 2024 SLT had what they called Premium Smooth Ride, but the Denali had Magnetic Ride Control. The weird thing was that the SLT was one step below the Denali and didn't have it, but the Chevy had it on the Premier, which would be a similar-level trim to the SLT, depending on where you slot the RST.

I am 6'3" and 240 lbs, so I am not small. I found the worst seats in my 2017 Acadia SLT. I was only 195 lbs then, and on my drive home from the dealership, I almost turned around and said no thanks.

Maybe the Denali is better.

Europort · Apr 2, 2026

Hello all! Unfortunately this is my first post here, but I had to chime in, as my wife just had a similar issue yesterday on I-81 (Pennsylvania).

Model: 2023 Tahoe High Country
Mileage: 58k and change
Pico test: Done around 50k, passed, running 0w-40.

She got on the highway yesterday after picking up my 4 year old from daycare. After accelerating through the onramp onto the interstate, she said the car just turned off and a message came up asking her to "restart the vehicle". After making it to the shoulder of the interstate, she tried restarting it, but the engine didn't crank.

I showed up about 30 minutes later with a NOCO Boost Pack to try and jump it (even though the dashboard was lit up), but it didn't crank. It sounded like the starter engaged the flywheel, but didn't spin it. All the sound it produced was a single 'click'. I removed the boost pack and tried having her start it, and it made the exact same sound. The engine didn't turn at all. I pulled the oil dipstick and verified it was full on oil.

We had it towed to the dealership last night and I'm currently awaiting a phone call to see what the diagnosis is.

The only 'hints' we have to go off of are:
1. Yesterday morning, when first leaving for work in the morning, my wife heard very faint ticking, but it ended up going away after a short drive (I immediately thought valvetrain, but I know the injectors could be loud as well at times).
2. Two days prior, I was driving the Tahoe and merging onto the interstate. I floored it to get up to speed quickly on a very short on-ramp and the 6.2 felt like it was lacking power.

jfoj · Apr 2, 2026

@Europort

If the engine seized, please make sure you fill out a NHTSA complaint form online.

Report a Vehicle Safety Problem, Equipment Issue | NHTSA https://share.google/IROiaL8Ge1PjJrlr5

Europort · Apr 2, 2026

jfoj said:
@Europort

If the engine seized, please make sure you fill out a NHTSA complaint form online.

Report a Vehicle Safety Problem, Equipment Issue | NHTSA https://share.google/IROiaL8Ge1PjJrlr5

Will do! I was reading through this thread earlier and already opened another tab in the browser with it waiting to be filled out lol.

DontTaseMeBro · Apr 2, 2026

LEsoftballdad said:
No, sir. The 2024 SLT had what they called Premium Smooth Ride, but the Denali had Magnetic Ride Control. The weird thing was that the SLT was one step below the Denali and didn't have it, but the Chevy had it on the Premier, which would be a similar-level trim to the SLT, depending on where you slot the RST.

I am 6'3" and 240 lbs, so I am not small. I found the worst seats in my 2017 Acadia SLT. I was only 195 lbs then, and on my drive home from the dealership, I almost turned around and said no thanks.

Maybe the Denali is better.

That’s very interesting. I’m the same height and weight as you!

LEsoftballdad · Apr 2, 2026

DontTaseMeBro said:
That’s very interesting. I’m the same height and weight as you!

Mind you, it's the seats, not ride.

BacDoc · Apr 3, 2026

LEsoftballdad said:
No, I am quite sure I know how I feel. Having driven it for almost a week, it was a good sample size. Have you driven one? If not, don't project your thoughts onto what others feel.

The seats are far more comfortable than the fake leather used in the SLT. I am sure I am not the only one who thinks GM's seats are too stiff. In fact, it's been that way for years. The last seats I would call comfortable were in my 2005 Cadillac CTS.

You are right about the Expedition seats feeling more comfortable as I thought that too when comparing the Ford to the Chevy. I drove the Expedition Platinum but thought the High Country was far better for ride and handling. The trim levels are similar but the Expedition was a floating, vague ride and had more nose dive on breaking. Think the GM suspension is much more advanced technology that turns, handles and stops much better.

The seats are definitely personal choice and the softer seats will feel more comfortable but maybe wear more over time and the firm seats in my High Country are surprisingly very comfortable on 6-8 hour drives which is a true test for comfort.
I only drove the Expedition 45 minutes at most so I can’t comment on comfort on long trips.

I would like to try the refreshed Expedition as it looks like they changed quite a bit but still don’t offer V8

Europort · Apr 3, 2026

Europort said:
Hello all! Unfortunately this is my first post here, but I had to chime in, as my wife just had a similar issue yesterday on I-81 (Pennsylvania).

Model: 2023 Tahoe High Country
Mileage: 58k and change
Pico test: Done around 50k, passed, running 0w-40.

She got on the highway yesterday after picking up my 4 year old from daycare. After accelerating through the onramp onto the interstate, she said the car just turned off and a message came up asking her to "restart the vehicle". After making it to the shoulder of the interstate, she tried restarting it, but the engine didn't crank.

I showed up about 30 minutes later with a NOCO Boost Pack to try and jump it (even though the dashboard was lit up), but it didn't crank. It sounded like the starter engaged the flywheel, but didn't spin it. All the sound it produced was a single 'click'. I removed the boost pack and tried having her start it, and it made the exact same sound. The engine didn't turn at all. I pulled the oil dipstick and verified it was full on oil.

We had it towed to the dealership last night and I'm currently awaiting a phone call to see what the diagnosis is.

The only 'hints' we have to go off of are:
1. Yesterday morning, when first leaving for work in the morning, my wife heard very faint ticking, but it ended up going away after a short drive (I immediately thought valvetrain, but I know the injectors could be loud as well at times).
2. Two days prior, I was driving the Tahoe and merging onto the interstate. I floored it to get up to speed quickly on a very short on-ramp and the 6.2 felt like it was lacking power.

Update:

Dealer called. Motor is locked up. They didn't tear it down to find out 'exactly' what is wrong, but they ordered a new 6.2. They're on backorder right now so it looks like the wife will be driving an Equinox around for a while.

I'll be filling out that NHTSA form at some point this evening!

LsHart · Apr 3, 2026

Ouch!

LEsoftballdad · Apr 3, 2026

BacDoc said:
You are right about the Expedition seats feeling more comfortable as I thought that too when comparing the Ford to the Chevy. I drove the Expedition Platinum but thought the High Country was far better for ride and handling. The trim levels are similar but the Expedition was a floating, vague ride and had more nose dive on breaking. Think the GM suspension is much more advanced technology that turns, handles and stops much better.

The seats are definitely personal choice and the softer seats will feel more comfortable but maybe wear more over time and the firm seats in my High Country are surprisingly very comfortable on 6-8 hour drives which is a true test for comfort.
I only drove the Expedition 45 minutes at most so I can’t comment on comfort on long trips.

I would like to try the refreshed Expedition as it looks like they changed quite a bit but still don’t offer V8

Sadly, the GM V8 engines, as evidenced by this thread, aren't doing well.

Europort · Apr 3, 2026

I just finished filing the NHTSA report. Now, who knows when they will receive a replacement motor. I've been on the fence about trading it in after it gets repaired for an SUV (Mid or Full) from a different manufacturer, but there's a part of me hoping that maybe a "new" 6.2 won't suffer from the same issues that this one from 2023 did. Given the responses in this thread, unfortunately, I don't think that is the case.

It's a shame - This Tahoe is such a great riding and handling vehicle. I just don't think I can put my family through having something like this happening again.

Furthermore, now I'm thinking about the 6.2 in my '21 Sierra that has a little under 47k miles on the odometer. Do I trade that in? Do I keep it and see if it blows up? I have no idea at this point. Maybe over the next few weeks/months I'll be able to figure out my next steps with these vehicles.

blanchard7684 · Apr 4, 2026

Europort said:
I just finished filing the NHTSA report. Now, who knows when they will receive a replacement motor. I've been on the fence about trading it in after it gets repaired for an SUV (Mid or Full) from a different manufacturer, but there's a part of me hoping that maybe a "new" 6.2 won't suffer from the same issues that this one from 2023 did. Given the responses in this thread, unfortunately, I don't think that is the case.

It's a shame - This Tahoe is such a great riding and handling vehicle. I just don't think I can put my family through having something like this happening again.

Furthermore, now I'm thinking about the 6.2 in my '21 Sierra that has a little under 47k miles on the odometer. Do I trade that in? Do I keep it and see if it blows up? I have no idea at this point. Maybe over the next few weeks/months I'll be able to figure out my next steps with these vehicles.

If you don’t absolutely have to have the power of the 6.2 I would consider the same vehicles with 5.3. It has been super solid over the past several years.

LEsoftballdad · Apr 4, 2026

Except the lifter fa

blanchard7684 said:
If you don’t absolutely have to have the power of the 6.2 I would consider the same vehicles with 5.3. It has been super solid over the past

Except the lifter failure issues. My 21 Sierra had the lifters fail at 3,500 miles. They basically rebuilt the engine, and then I traded it in.

LEsoftballdad · Apr 4, 2026

Europort said:
I just finished filing the NHTSA report. Now, who knows when they will receive a replacement motor. I've been on the fence about trading it in after it gets repaired for an SUV (Mid or Full) from a different manufacturer, but there's a part of me hoping that maybe a "new" 6.2 won't suffer from the same issues that this one from 2023 did. Given the responses in this thread, unfortunately, I don't think that is the case.

It's a shame - This Tahoe is such a great riding and handling vehicle. I just don't think I can put my family through having something like this happening again.

Furthermore, now I'm thinking about the 6.2 in my '21 Sierra that has a little under 47k miles on the odometer. Do I trade that in? Do I keep it and see if it blows up? I have no idea at this point. Maybe over the next few weeks/months I'll be able to figure out my next steps with these vehicles.

The answer is no. GM is riding out the clock on the 6.2 until the new power train comes out later this year.

tagexpcom · Apr 4, 2026

First, my sympathies to those failures, and the ensuing hassle being stranded - no denying this! Don't blame anyone for moving to different rig.

On the other hand, my 2021 Yukon Denali w/6.2 is at 79K and running great. LOVE the rig! If the stats on 6.2 are to be believed, it's 95%'ish success vs 5%'ish failure. Glass is way more than 1/2 full / I'm choosing to just move ahead and not worry because...

I've never had a car that didn't have major issues (except my wife's 2011 CTS). For example my 2004 SRX V8 was in the shop 3 times in first 2,000 miles for major oil leaks, the rear differential didn't even have a seal from the factory, the wiring wore-thru at ~35Kmiles for the fan and stabilitrack (somehow) causing car to lurch and overheat in stop/go in LA inching toward Disneyland, the transfer case went out at ~80K, the all-wheel-drive controller when out at ~90K miles (major effort, several visits to get it right), at least 6-8 trips for other engine check-light issues.

It seems to be a game of stats for companies and consumers, doesn't seem to be about making great 'anything' anymore no matter which way you turn.

BacDoc · Apr 6, 2026

I was coming over the Intracoastal bridge today and right at the bottom before the light was a newer Escalade with the hood popped up in one of the middle lanes.
A police vehicle (Tahoe) was parked behind him with lights flashing

There are a lot of late model Tahoe and Yukon in this area and it is the first time I have ever seen one in or on side of road with the hood popped
Looked like the classic “died on the highway”. Maybe it died on the down slope and he coasted, but dying on a downslope is one of the most dangerous places! Most drivers are not expecting a stopped vehicle just over the crest of the bridge.
Speed limit is usually 55mph but construction has it limited to 45mph.
Still not a good place to break down!

Died at 70mph on I-75

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