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OBD Hijinks



I have used several low end OBD readers through the years and they were sufficient for prepurchase evaluation. However, upon purchasing a high mileage 2015 Yukon Denali, and spending ~$300 for a dealer diagnosis session that included a recall download, I decided that I needed to upgrade my own equipment and skills to do my own diagnosis. My cars all have Adaptive Cruise Control. This mandatory option for me usually also includes all of the other safety features that are available, hence a lot of control modules which contain more than 500 data points, or PIDs.



My first attempt at an upgrade OBD tool was an Amazon VXDIAG unit that plugged into a laptop. After 2 days and several connections with the Taiwan support office, I was able to make it work, but subsequent connection was problematic and I totally lost confidence in being able to use it with any reliability. My next attempt at an upgrade was a handheld $300 unit that the company sales rep assured me that it would troubleshoot body control sub modules and find the fault that I had “SERVICE PARK ASSIST”. These sensors, $200 each at the dealer, 4 in front, 4 in back, are connected in series and must all be functional and sending out their variable signals. They are positioned at the extremities of the plastic bumper facia and connected with very fragile wires that look like they were designed for the home telephone industry. That $300 unit could not find the OBJECT DETECT sensors, nor report any status or code. It was returned to Amazon.



The next iteration was an AutoEnginuity $200 USB connector and a $200 GM license. Within 10 minutes of receiving the unit, I was able to scan virtually every PID on that Denali and identify the failed sensor. I found a $40 sensor on eBay that looked identical, had a GM part number, and ordered it. A YouTube video starring an 80 yo fellow showed me how to remove the facia and the new part was snapped in. I ran a scan before reassembling the fascia and it proved success. The facia was remounted and no more codes. I’m quite sure the dealer would have charged more than the OBD costs and the part cost.



I’ve since bought a new Lenovo Yoga Tablet Laptop computer, strictly for garage OBD work. The best feature is that the screen can hang on the steering wheel as the software functions primarily on touchscreen. I’ve now gained a high sense of confidence in troubleshooting my Denali, in addition to my 2019 VW GTI and my 2012 Volvo S60, all with the most possible modern electronics.
 

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Ron- Are you using the AutoEnginuity USB with the Lenovo? What software? Seeing the Volvo and VW I'm assuming VXdiag. let us know!
 

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OBD Hijinks



I have used several low end OBD readers through the years and they were sufficient for prepurchase evaluation. However, upon purchasing a high mileage 2015 Yukon Denali, and spending ~$300 for a dealer diagnosis session that included a recall download, I decided that I needed to upgrade my own equipment and skills to do my own diagnosis. My cars all have Adaptive Cruise Control. This mandatory option for me usually also includes all of the other safety features that are available, hence a lot of control modules which contain more than 500 data points, or PIDs.



My first attempt at an upgrade OBD tool was an Amazon VXDIAG unit that plugged into a laptop. After 2 days and several connections with the Taiwan support office, I was able to make it work, but subsequent connection was problematic and I totally lost confidence in being able to use it with any reliability. My next attempt at an upgrade was a handheld $300 unit that the company sales rep assured me that it would troubleshoot body control sub modules and find the fault that I had “SERVICE PARK ASSIST”. These sensors, $200 each at the dealer, 4 in front, 4 in back, are connected in series and must all be functional and sending out their variable signals. They are positioned at the extremities of the plastic bumper facia and connected with very fragile wires that look like they were designed for the home telephone industry. That $300 unit could not find the OBJECT DETECT sensors, nor report any status or code. It was returned to Amazon.



The next iteration was an AutoEnginuity $200 USB connector and a $200 GM license. Within 10 minutes of receiving the unit, I was able to scan virtually every PID on that Denali and identify the failed sensor. I found a $40 sensor on eBay that looked identical, had a GM part number, and ordered it. A YouTube video starring an 80 yo fellow showed me how to remove the facia and the new part was snapped in. I ran a scan before reassembling the fascia and it proved success. The facia was remounted and no more codes. I’m quite sure the dealer would have charged more than the OBD costs and the part cost.



I’ve since bought a new Lenovo Yoga Tablet Laptop computer, strictly for garage OBD work. The best feature is that the screen can hang on the steering wheel as the software functions primarily on touchscreen. I’ve now gained a high sense of confidence in troubleshooting my Denali, in addition to my 2019 VW GTI and my 2012 Volvo S60, all with the most possible modern electronics.

Can you please share Taiwan Support Office contacts. I have to talk to them regarding their useless device.
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What is exactly the AutoEnginuity $200 USB device? There are many with different price ranges
 

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what is it doing or not doing?

I can specify probably next week or two, my laptop is out of use now.

But in short, I end up installing all needed VXDIAG software and GDS2, but once I connect, it won’t auto read VIN number, and no direct communication between the vehicle and the pc even though it is shown as all ok with green dot and OBD2 read voltage from the car.
Same with TachStream (Lexus/Toyota), I cannot customized the car from provided menu (no response)
 

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OBD Hijinks, continued

The AutoEnginuity USB software works great with a touchscreen laptop, preferably one with a screen that folds back so that the keyboard is out of the way.

VW diagnostics is Ross-Tech. An independent US outfit that developed a precision focus on VW and Audi. It is awesome. And reasonable, with a very compelling forum to assist troubleshooting, usually hosted by the company founder and president. "Merica" at it's best.

Volvo diagnostics has been very difficult to crack. But we now have access to the excellent factory VIDA OBD and Service Data:
"WELCOME to the cool new development in the world of VIDA laptops... VIDA2GO! Just plug the SSD drive into the USB port of your laptop and boot from that! " That search will get you to David Leach's Facebook page, ~$220 for VIDA and DICE.

In addition, I have jumped deep into Service Data. A $20 eBay download will get you the 5000 page factory service manual. However, it is not LINKED. An Alldata subscription gets the same data in a different format, but it also is not LINKED. Mitchell DIY, ~$45 for 4 years, IS LINKED, includes all wiring diagrams and code references. It's light on mechanical, but I can search the factory service manual. I'll usually refer to the Mitchell Book Time and decide to let others do it, confident that I know the scope of the work. I use Mitchell extensively on the Denali.

I'm still toying with Picoscope.
 

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I can specify probably next week or two, my laptop is out of use now.

But in short, I end up installing all needed VXDIAG software and GDS2, but once I connect, it won’t auto read VIN number, and no direct communication between the vehicle and the pc even though it is shown as all ok with green dot and OBD2 read voltage from the car.
Same with TachStream (Lexus/Toyota), I cannot customized the car from provided menu (no response)
next time time you get on the laptop, open the vxdiag program first, just open it then minimize it, then open gds2, in gds2 it should give you the option to select the interface device it should show the vxdiag or another mdi2 type device, try either one of those and then plug it into the odb port and see if it autodetects the vin
 

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What kind of things can you customize with the proper tool? I'd love to be able to program the mirrors to go to a spot I can use when I put the Tahoe in reverse. The current setting is useless so I don't have that turned on. I realize auto up isn't gonna happen though. Bummer.
 

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What kind of things can you customize with the proper tool? I'd love to be able to program the mirrors to go to a spot I can use when I put the Tahoe in reverse. The current setting is useless so I don't have that turned on. I realize auto up isn't gonna happen though. Bummer.
there is a tool you can buy from either whites automotive or bt diesel that you can have them program certain things into the bcm but nothing you could do yourself
 
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