Magneride Delete

[scottystills]

Hey all just finished reading through a bunch of the magneride problem threads and glad to see I'm not the only one! I see all the pros and cons of deleting the system.

2020 Yukon Denali, stock everything, ~140k km

Right now I blew the air bag in my rear DS shock last summer, been riding on it as is ever since with the compressor relay removed. I don't tow anything heavy, just our boat or a 12' quad trailer so hasn't been a big deal. Fronts are toast now too though and I'm bouncing like a lunatic so I'm going over my options.

The OEMs are way out there... Looking at $650 each for the rear and $750 each for the front. I did find some out of Ontario, basically no name brand Chinese knock offs that are around $1100 for all 4 but come with a lifetime warranty for whatever that's worth.

Real question, I found a delete Bilstein kit out of a shop in Saskatchewan and wondering if anyone's gone down this route? I have Bilstein 5100s on my off road rig and they're unreal. If anyone's put them on I'd be real interested in the feedback. They're looking around $1700 CAD all in to my door.

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Thx
Scott

 

[slupie]

Look at RockAuto, ACDelco OEM Magride shocks and struts are about $400 each, or buy the standard shocks and https://shocksims.com/

 

[scottystills]

Oh I checked... Rears are a little cheaper at $549.66 (CAD), fronts (unloaded) are $549.39. The loaded Arnotts are $782.10.

Love the shocksims.com option though! Rear Z85s are easy to figure out, which RPO do you use for the fronts? I'll start going through the RPOs but if anyone knows by experience I'd love to hear it.

To tell you the truth though the shock sim module is around $500 CAD anyway, so by the time I get the Z85 shocks and struts, without new front coils, I'm at the same price as the Bilstein kit. Not sure the OEM shocks are the best anyway so also still curious if anyone's used that Bilstein kit.

 

[slupie]

Oh I checked... Rears are a little cheaper at $549.66 (CAD), fronts (unloaded) are $549.39. The loaded Arnotts are $782.10.

Love the shocksims.com option though! Rear Z85s are easy to figure out, which RPO do you use for the fronts? I'll start going through the RPOs but if anyone knows by experience I'd love to hear it.

If you go the standard shocks/struts this module bypasses magnaride on all 4 corners https://shocksims.com/shop.html#!/OBD-SS-Module/p/553911289/category=0

 

[scottystills]

If you go the standard shocks/struts this module bypasses magnaride on all 4 corners https://shocksims.com/shop.html#!/OBD-SS-Module/p/553911289/category=0

I got that, I mean for the standard struts there are like 7 or 8 options depending on RPO. All the RPOs show as computer selectable... all same description so not sure what the differences are.

 

[scottystills]

Oh the other thing, I read in another thread that the strut top seats and the coils aren't the same between the magneride struts and standard. Might end up being more expensive that way once everything gets added in.

 

[slupie]

I got that, I mean for the standard struts there are like 7 or 8 options depending on RPO. All the RPOs show as computer selectable... all same description so not sure what the differences are.

Look on the RPO code and see which options you have and find shocks that best fit your Yukon Denali. Another option is to find a Tahoe or Yukon SLT on autotrader without the Magride but with similar equipement as yours and then punch in that VIN https://www.gmparts.com/ to see what shocks/strut part numbers fit that vehicle, again it will be close but not exact.

 

[slupie]

Oh the other thing, I read in another thread that the strut top seats and the coils aren't the same between the magneride struts and standard. Might end up being more expensive that way once everything gets added in.

Standard strut mounts are $35.79 https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=12370637&cc=0&pt=7600. I will be going away from Magride to standard shocks on my Suburban when it warms up. The cost of 4 Magride shocks/struts is $1600, standard with few replacement components is about $535.

 

[scottystills]

Standard strut mounts are $35.79 https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=12370637&cc=0&pt=7600. I will be going away from Magride to standard shocks on my Suburban when it warms up. The cost of 4 Magride shocks/struts is $1600, standard with few replacement components is about $535.

Ya I mean, agreed the shocks struts for me about $750 probably $600 USD minus shipping and whatnot, then add on $35 each strut mount another $70, front coils are $60-120 each depending on which version (solely based on rockautos lineup), then the shocksim module is $360 USD ($500 CAD)... Adds up pretty quick doing the math is all. Are you planning to replace the coils front and rear? From what I understand the magneride springs are different rates front and rear from the standard ones.

 

[slupie]

Ya I mean, agreed the shocks struts for me about $750 probably $600 USD minus shipping and whatnot, then add on $35 each strut mount another $70, front coils are $60-120 each depending on which version (solely based on rockautos lineup), then the shocksim module is $360 USD ($500 CAD)... Adds up pretty quick doing the math is all. Are you planning to replace the coils front and rear? From what I understand the magneride springs are different rates front and rear from the standard ones.

Springs hold up the vehicle weight and shocks provide dampening to the spring oscilaltion. I'm keeping the springs and keeping the rear air suspension just getting rid of the Magneride struts/shocks. Some use the Monroe ready strut assembly.

 

[koachdaddy]

Springs hold up the vehicle weight and shocks provide dampening to the spring oscilaltion. I'm keeping the springs and keeping the rear air suspension just getting rid of the Magneride struts/shocks. Some use the Monroe ready strut assembly.

Don't have any leaks yet on my 2020 w/62k, but can only assume that it won't be long before issues arise. Visited Monroe's website and it looks like $600 gets a complete active to passive setup that keeps the electronic suspension light off...just wondering if anyone has done this yet with successful results?

 

[ss4chad]

Hey Slupie, won't you get nuisance warnings if you dont have the Magnaride in the front since you are keeping the rears and the compressor? Sure you can cap off the lines going to the front but won't give you warnings on your dash?
I just bought a 2017 Yukon XL Denali and was surprised how rough this "Luxury" vehicle rode. I was going to put new shocks in all for corners when I ran across this post about getting rid of the Z95 magnaride

Chad

 

[scottystills]

Hey Slupie, won't you get nuisance warnings if you dont have the Magnaride in the front since you are keeping the rears and the compressor? Sure you can cap off the lines going to the front but won't give you warnings on your dash?
I just bought a 2017 Yukon XL Denali and was surprised how rough this "Luxury" vehicle rode. I was going to put new shocks in all for corners when I ran across this post about getting rid of the Z95 magnaride

Chad

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That's what you use one of these sims for. Other vendors call them different things, but they intercept the signals from the computer so it thinks the magneride is still active.

 

[scottystills]

Springs hold up the vehicle weight and shocks provide dampening to the spring oscilaltion. I'm keeping the springs and keeping the rear air suspension just getting rid of the Magneride struts/shocks. Some use the Monroe ready strut assembly.

Yep of course. That said different springs will perform very differently when they are different weights/rates. I did talk to the guys at magdelete yesterday though and they did suggest keeping the stock magneride spec springs. I guess you can upgrade to the +30% or +70%, but if you need the load capacity they suggest going with their non-Z95 AC delcos that maintain the air support.

 

[slupie]

Hey Slupie, won't you get nuisance warnings if you dont have the Magnaride in the front since you are keeping the rears and the compressor? Sure you can cap off the lines going to the front but won't give you warnings on your dash?
I just bought a 2017 Yukon XL Denali and was surprised how rough this "Luxury" vehicle rode. I was going to put new shocks in all for corners when I ran across this post about getting rid of the Z95 magnaride

Chad

Magnaride and air ride are two different systems. Magnride is magnetically controlled struts/shocks that are filled with oil that has magnetic particles and a coil that applies current to the oil to make it more or less viscous. There are sensors at all 4 corners that monitor the motion of the suspension and then the magnaride computer applies current to each coil. To bypass it you need a shocksims to complete the circuit and dissipate to current that is send to each shock. Air ride uses the rear sensors to monitor rear end loading and inflate or deflate the rear air shocks to compensate for heavier or lighter loads.

 

[ss4chad]

Thanks man!

 

[scottystills]

Looking at the non magneride struts... I can get Macphersons locally for a good price but they say they're w/o 22" wheels. I do have the 22s... anyone know what the difference is? Narrower coil spring or something?

 

[K2 Kaiju]

Magnaride is stupid expensive, but the new GM magnaride shocks now have a lifetime warranty. Magnaride is what you want - its got electrolytes. Dont cheat your Denali - it will know and get back at you by releasing the gremlin hoard...

 

[ss4chad]

You got a P/N for that? Or can I find that in a GM Parts Catalog somewhere?
Thanks

Chad

 

[scottystills]

Magnaride is stupid expensive, but the new GM magnaride shocks now have a lifetime warranty. Magnaride is what you want - its got electrolytes. Dont cheat your Denali - it will know and get back at you by releasing the gremlin hoard...

You got a P/N for that? Or can I find that in a GM Parts Catalog somewhere?
Thanks

Chad

Z85 struts or lifetime warranty?