Traded in the Burb

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

Jettix2

Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Posts
74
Reaction score
66
Back story.......we had a 2018 Expedition that had higher miles and traded it in July 22 on a new 2022 Suburban LT using a good friend's A-plan (Exec Referral) coupon. Black LT with captains chairs, panoroof, 20" wheels and Safety package.

Suburban ran and drove fine, we didn't have any issues over 10k miles of ownership other than some glitchy CarPlay software that would "forget" a phone, render the volume knobs inop randomly, etc. Nothing major. 5.3/10 speed is peppy, gets good mpg and the Suburban has plenty of space in it.

That said, the A-Pillar blind spots on the 15+ and especially this 21+ bodystyle are enormous. Pillars are thick, mirrors (especially with the cameras on the end of them) are huge, beltline inside is fairly high......... overall, huge blind spot and we had several instances where we almost pulled out right in front of an oncoming vehicle AND had a couple scary incidents where pedestrians walked out and we didn't see them until they were literally in front of the car.

On a whim, I had my buddy who is a manager at local Ford dealer give me a trade in price on the Burb, and he offered me within $1k of what I paid for it. He had a 2019 Expedition Platinum Max on the lot that was absolutely immaculate, with 28k miles, CPO warranty, and full service records. We took it for the weekend, put 300 miles on it, and ended up trading the Burb on it. Expedition has WAY better visibility, a combination of slightly smaller A pillar, shorter side mirrors, and a slightly lower beltline. Even my 15yo daughter noticed in the passenger seat that she could see much more clearly LOL.

Here's hoping the Expedition treats us better than our last one. It's a year newer and has 1/3 the miles, so we're crossing our fingers.

In summary, the Burb is a good people hauler, but the blind spots are a deal breaker for us.

expedition.jpeg
Thanks to all for your advice and input over the past decade (we had a 13 Burb, 14 Esky, and then the 22 Suburban).
 

Polo08816

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 24, 2010
Posts
808
Reaction score
342
We had a rental 2022 Expedition Max Limited and thoroughly enjoyed it. I like the updated dash design more than the standard non Denali/Escalade GM full size SUVs. I don't like the complexity of a turbocharged engine, but perhaps that's the way things are headed.

Either way, I don't think you can really go wrong with a GM or Ford full size SUV.

Because it seems there's still a shortage of new full size SUVs, it looks like I'll end up with a 1/2 ton pickup and revisit the full size SUV market 3-5 years down the road (2026-2028). By then, these SUVs would have probably gone through another 2 revisions/refreshes. I can't imagine any of them being insufficient by then.
 

Luda07

TYF Newbie
Joined
Jan 3, 2023
Posts
3
Reaction score
3
I like the expeditions but don’t want to deal with the ecoboost long term (+150k miles.) I’d get one in a heartbeat if I could get it with the 5.0. Great looking rig
 

Saltydog

Full Access Member
Joined
Jun 28, 2021
Posts
226
Reaction score
253
I really like the Expedition, we almost purchased a Red Stealth Edition, but since we were coming from an Explorer, my wife thought it looked too similar. My only complaint was about the small center screen and kinda blah interior, I see that Ford updated that for 2022.
 

Geotrash

Dave
Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2018
Posts
7,843
Reaction score
20,396
Location
Richmond, VA
I rented a '21 Expedition Max for a week last fall and didn't care for it. It had about 50K on the clock and there were some clunks in the suspension and a general feeling of being disconnected from the road compared to our older Yukon XL Denalis. Hard to explain but it felt like driving a hippopotamus might. The suspension felt like my old '84 Olds Cutlass - spongy and bobbly. My wife didn't care for it either. GM has a far better suspension setup with the megnetorheological shocks. I liked the Ecoboost engine and the dash layout though.
 

George B

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Joined
Feb 5, 2020
Posts
7,879
Reaction score
18,976
Location
Oconomowoc, Wisconsin 53066
I rented a '21 Expedition Max for a week last fall and didn't care for it. It had about 50K on the clock and there were some clunks in the suspension and a general feeling of being disconnected from the road compared to our older Yukon XL Denalis. Hard to explain but it felt like driving a hippopotamus might. The suspension felt like my old '84 Olds Cutlass - spongy and bobbly. My wife didn't care for it either. GM has a far better suspension setup with the megnetorheological shocks. I liked the Ecoboost engine and the dash layout though.
I spent too long, wondering what driving a hippopotamus would be like…
 

Wwes

Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2016
Posts
60
Reaction score
52
I've always thought the interior of the 2018+ Expedition is better than the GM twins. I was *this* close to buying a new 2018 Expy back in the day but cranking up the 6.2 really hits me where it counts. If you don't mind the good performance (and poor sound) of the 3.5, the Expy is a winner. Good luck with the truck.
 
OP
OP
J

Jettix2

Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Posts
74
Reaction score
66
I've always thought the interior of the 2018+ Expedition is better than the GM twins. I was *this* close to buying a new 2018 Expy back in the day but cranking up the 6.2 really hits me where it counts. If you don't mind the good performance (and poor sound) of the 3.5, the Expy is a winner. Good luck with the truck.
3.5 EB sounds like nothing. Definitely not a gurgly 6.2. It’s ballsy as heck, though, and gets good mpg.

19 Expedition Switchgear is more uniform-ly good quality than our ‘22 Burb, which had some flimsy HVAC buttons. Ergonomics work better for me, ie I prefer the rotary shifter to the stupid dash buttons, it has a sunglass holder, it has a spot on the dash to toss keys and glasses, etc. Some of it personal Preference.

The Burb has more cargo space, but the Expy max is enough for us. And The Burb sounds cooler, even with the 5.3….. ;)
 

Polo08816

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 24, 2010
Posts
808
Reaction score
342
I rented a '21 Expedition Max for a week last fall and didn't care for it. It had about 50K on the clock and there were some clunks in the suspension and a general feeling of being disconnected from the road compared to our older Yukon XL Denalis. Hard to explain but it felt like driving a hippopotamus might. The suspension felt like my old '84 Olds Cutlass - spongy and bobbly. My wife didn't care for it either. GM has a far better suspension setup with the megnetorheological shocks. I liked the Ecoboost engine and the dash layout though.

Yeah, I wouldn't consider anything earlier than a 2021 with the older dash design. At 50k miles, the shocks could have been leaking which appears to be a common problem with MagneRide/CCD suspensions. I believe the CCD suspension = MagneRide on the Expeditions.

Honestly, they are both body on frame SUVs with fully independent suspensions. If there's a difference in handling, it's not going to be night and day like comparing a pickup to a sports car.
 

R32driver

Full Access Member
Joined
Nov 24, 2021
Posts
727
Reaction score
645
Sharp looking ride, I think that looks much nicer than the new suburban/tahoe and almost looks as good as a new yukon...I saw a brand new expedition in person for the first time the other day and it looks dope. Ford is killing it in the styling department. The looks of Fords suvs and trucks blows GM's offerings out of the water
 

vcode

Full Access Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2015
Posts
783
Reaction score
776
Sharp looking ride, I think that looks much nicer than the new suburban/tahoe and almost looks as good as a new yukon...I saw a brand new expedition in person for the first time the other day and it looks dope. Ford is killing it in the styling department. The looks of Fords suvs and trucks blows GM's offerings out of the water
Totally agree on the styling. I drove an Expedition and a Denali with the 10 speed. The GMC was calibrated better. The Ford really hung on to a gear if you accelerated hard and then backed off the throttle. Both were 2019's so the Ford may have had some updates in newer models.....
 

Billy Bass

TYF Newbie
Joined
Dec 29, 2022
Posts
3
Reaction score
3
Good luck !!! My daughter is a warranty claims adjuster for Ford and she does a ton of claims on the 3.5 cam phasers, exhaust manifold and the sunroof assemblies. Just a heads up
 

Forum statistics

Threads
137,672
Posts
1,989,114
Members
102,675
Latest member
j_jerry79

Latest posts

Back
Top