Put in an order for a stealth performance expedition today. The constraints on the yukons are making it impossible to get accepted by the factory. I still have my order in for the yukon so now it's just a race to see which one gets accepted first... and I'm really hoping it will be the yukon.
Expedition vs Yukon
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StephenPT
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I was just at the Portland, OR auto show and Ford had a sticker on all of their vehicles saying if you did a test drive that day you'd get a $1500 voucher and you could add that to the current $1000 rebate for a custom order. It didn't seem like there were many restrictions other than models like the F150 Lightning, Shelby GT500, etc.
Not sure if Ford's production part situation is better than GM's? Either way, Ford seems to be getting aggressive with pushing the custom build process. From what I've gathered lurking on the Expedition forum, Ford has a much better portal for you to check on the status of your build.
Not sure if Ford's production part situation is better than GM's? Either way, Ford seems to be getting aggressive with pushing the custom build process. From what I've gathered lurking on the Expedition forum, Ford has a much better portal for you to check on the status of your build.
On a fully loaded expedition, the only option I wasn't able to get was the rear entertainment system... everything else was good to go through production. There were a couple items not being produced at full capactiy, but they were still going at like 70-80%.
There appear to be more Ford dealers willing to sell at invoice pricing. Granger Ford in IA will sell for 3% below invoice.
The 2022 Ford Expedition interior update was much needed. I'm definitely considering a Ford as the good reputable GMC dealerships have wait times of over 10 months.
One could also argue the Ford Expedition may be better at towing since it has the EcoBoost engine, a slightly higher payload, and a 3.73 rear end.
If Stellantis brings an extended wheel base Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer and transitions the Durango to a Wagoneer chassis, the competition in this segment will be extremely tough for GM.
The 2022 Ford Expedition interior update was much needed. I'm definitely considering a Ford as the good reputable GMC dealerships have wait times of over 10 months.
One could also argue the Ford Expedition may be better at towing since it has the EcoBoost engine, a slightly higher payload, and a 3.73 rear end.
If Stellantis brings an extended wheel base Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer and transitions the Durango to a Wagoneer chassis, the competition in this segment will be extremely tough for GM.
They are selling it to me at msrp but I'm also getting more for my F250 on a trade probably because it's a Ford. What's nice is that I'm the only order for an expedition at this dealer so as soon as they get an allocation mine will be picked up.
I'm really excited to see what the next few years bring to this market with so many contenders at play. Once the supply chain and chip shortage issues start to resolve, I'm sure we will see a huge boom with full size suv's.
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And much better reliability.
Granger is very active on a couple of the Ram forum…similar discounting, 4% below invoice which equates to roughly 10-11% off MSRP
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GM sold 220k vehicles(Tahoe, suburban, Yukon) in 2021 compared to the 80k expeditions Ford sold in 2021. So it’s not surprising to see they have less constraints and shorter wait times. Which is also why Ford dealers would be willing to sell at or below MSRP. I don’t think they would be as willing to do that on a F-150, but I’m not sure.
Unfortunately for us, GM dealers knows their vehicles won’t sit on the lot long or at all. Until that changes and the competition picks up, it’s going to be harder to get a Yukon/Tahoe.
Unfortunately for us, GM dealers knows their vehicles won’t sit on the lot long or at all. Until that changes and the competition picks up, it’s going to be harder to get a Yukon/Tahoe.
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Adding onto that, GM stated they are going to keep their production down, and make sure dealer lots have fewer options to choose from. Which in turn will keep demand/pricing high (esp on these SUVs), rebates low/non-existent, and GMs profit margins thru the roof.
Personally, as a buyer, it makes things challenging. But looking at it from a business and wasted materials aspect, I agree with it. Generally speaking, customers will need to be more proactive when starting to seek out a new vehicle, and start looking 3-4 months out instead of just picking one off the lot like years past.
