Looking to buy new 2017 Yukon
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Posted this in another thread, figured I'd put it here in case it is helpful to the original poster.....
I took a 2017 Tahoe 2wd with 20in wheels, 3.42 rear end and roof rack cross rails installed from a dealer lot the other day. It had 4 miles on it when I got in. Absolutely no buffeting/booming that I could detect, and zero vibrations. I was extremely pleased at how well it rode, at all speeds, including cruise set at 80mph for several miles. I put about 50 miles on it total, probably 50/50 hwy and city streets.
FYI- The tires (continental) were showing at 41 psi after about 15 miles of driving, so they were certainly over inflated when cold before I drove it. I aired them down to 37, which improved the ride somewhat, although it was not by any means objectionable at the over inflated pressure they started with. The door jamb sticker called for 35psi cold.
I took a 2017 Tahoe 2wd with 20in wheels, 3.42 rear end and roof rack cross rails installed from a dealer lot the other day. It had 4 miles on it when I got in. Absolutely no buffeting/booming that I could detect, and zero vibrations. I was extremely pleased at how well it rode, at all speeds, including cruise set at 80mph for several miles. I put about 50 miles on it total, probably 50/50 hwy and city streets.
FYI- The tires (continental) were showing at 41 psi after about 15 miles of driving, so they were certainly over inflated when cold before I drove it. I aired them down to 37, which improved the ride somewhat, although it was not by any means objectionable at the over inflated pressure they started with. The door jamb sticker called for 35psi cold.
i have a 17 midnight edition tahoe 20" stock wheels but have 24s on right now and no issues with any of the things posted i even test drove multiple ones and no issues. I didn't even know about these problems until i saw the posts here.
Love my ride hate the dealership get a tahoe or burb im not a yukon fan but the headlights are nice.
Expeditions and Navigators are terrible and have the worst reviews ive ever seen on the net.
Love my ride hate the dealership get a tahoe or burb im not a yukon fan but the headlights are nice.
Expeditions and Navigators are terrible and have the worst reviews ive ever seen on the net.
Where have you seen reviews regarding the new expedition and navigators? Anyone here posting about them are referring to the 18s. They will take a large share away from gm (assuming there's not a major issue) starting this fall.
I'm glad your tuck is perfect but there are many that haven't had the good fortune with the 15 / 16 models.
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If the sales figures corroborate that when those are released to market, it will be good because GM will be forced to respond in an effort to stem market share loss. Increased competition may cause them to update the SUV's as fast as the Silverado/Sierra line with more mid-cycle refreshes and shorter generation length possibly as well.
They won't just let Ford pick off their market share without a response should be interesting to see how it unfolds....
I've read the ford stuff on multiple websites and found out for myself, my last vehicle was a 2011 suburban and i drove that and the 2011 navigator and the suburban was light years better, sure the ford had more bells and whistles but the burb drove so much better I even had min on 24s and could still get it up to 140kh without any speed wobble.
Again this time around because i hate the dealership i buy from in my city i drove a 2016 navigator, 2015 expedition and the 17 tahoe and again chose the tahoe, this time around the tahoe had everything the navigator had pretty much and again wasn't even a close decision.
Now im sure in 6 months I'll regret this post but as of now tahoe/burb>navigator/expedition.
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People are talking about the upcoming 18 expedition. The current expedition is incredibly dated.
People are talking about the upcoming 18 expedition. The current expedition is incredibly dated.
it looks like a toyota sequoia imo, never been a fan of fords the brakes on the ford trucks are insane and i just don't feel they drive as nice.
I drove my friends F150 and felt like i just started driving for the first time even the slightest touch of the barke made it come to a complete stop. Needless to say you would have laughed your ass off when you saw me pull out of the parking lot with it lol.
The 2018 navigator looks exactly like a Denali rip off ford needs to stop copying and come up with there own shit.
I don't see the denali at all with the navigator. The front end is a carryover from their car line not a copy of the large denali grille.
I will say the expedition profile closely resembles the tahoe/yukon but the ford front clip looks 10x better than the tahoe. The chevy front has always looked cheap...almost like it was an after thought...it doesn't flow well with the rest of the body. I do prefer the rear of the chevy (clean and simple) over the yukon, however.
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I don't see the denali at all with the navigator. The front end is a carryover from their car line not a copy of the large denali grille.
I will say the expedition profile closely resembles the tahoe/yukon but the ford front clip looks 10x better than the tahoe. The chevy front has always looked cheap...almost like it was an after thought...it doesn't flow well with the rest of the body. I do prefer the rear of the chevy (clean and simple) over the yukon, however.
Lol, I'm the complete opposite when it comes to the look of the Tahoe. I love the front end (especially the headlight design) but do like the rear end of the Yukons better. I won't get into the stupid issue with the Tahoe and the LEDs though as that is another topic altogether.
Lol, I'm the complete opposite when it comes to the look of the Tahoe. I love the front end (especially the headlight design) but do like the rear end of the Yukons better. I won't get into the stupid issue with the Tahoe and the LEDs though as that is another topic altogether.
Ha. I prefer the all led yukon tails but like the painted D pillars of Chevy. I considered painting our D pillars.
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I don't see the denali at all with the navigator. The front end is a carryover from their car line not a copy of the large denali grille.
I will say the expedition profile closely resembles the tahoe/yukon but the ford front clip looks 10x better than the tahoe. The chevy front has always looked cheap...almost like it was an after thought...it doesn't flow well with the rest of the body. I do prefer the rear of the chevy (clean and simple) over the yukon, however.
to each there own
escalade>nav in looks
tahoe>expidition
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Wheres the facts that prove tahoes have been the most bought back vehicle to date? EVERY person I have asked that has one (dozens here in dfw) doesnt know what im talking about. I drove one, and didnt feel squat. You are obviously here to spread fake news and attempt to steer gm researchers to ford. Nobody with 20 gm trucks would lay their nuts on the line for a navigator that hasnt even dropped yet. How bout that?
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So you are sure his wife wants to tow like you and put bigger tires on? You think they put 2010 budget truck cloth on 2017 tahoes? The black cloth in my 2011 avy had zero issues and did not hold any lint; it definately wasn't the "mouse fur" cloth I had on my past GM trucks. I have at least as long a list of previous gm vehicles as you (including 4 dodge trucks), and I return to gm because the issues they have are the least tragic. They also hold their value better...
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Nope, I'm not sure his wife wants bigger tires or will tow anything at all. I was referencing your post (#18) where you stated that there is no difference in the 3.08 vs 3.42 unless there is a trailer hooked up. Just pointing out that if given the choice, the 3.42 is a better option, for anyone, towing or not. I'm not sure why you're arguing the point though, seeing as to how you felt the need to change to 3.42 on your own vehicle....
I'm not sure what "budget truck cloth" is.....my 2010 1500 crew was an LT with just about all the options you can get without having a LTZ at that time. The cloth in that truck was the exact same cloth used in every body style Tahoe or suburban I rented at that time when I was traveling too. I have no idea what the quality/durability/longevity is on the cloth used on current model GM trucks or SUV's, and don't care, because with my kids in the car and loading up people in wet and dirty hunting gear, I'd be foolish to think cloth upholstery will be easy to maintain or remain stain free for very long. Seems like common sense to me. But I'm glad you were happy with your cloth seats in your 2011 truck.
I would agree that they have better resale value than comparable Ford and Dodge trucks. But, they had better, because in the SE, GM pickups and SUV's are more expensive (not msrp, but after negotiation) than the Ford and Dodge trucks.
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Understood. I think the super low 1st on 6 speed was developed with 3.08 in mind. I could break it loose with them. I switched to 3.42 because i was adding trutrack and it was only a bit more on 2wd to add it. Surprisingly, it didnt launch any quicker - like putting in 4low doesnt make you faster - but it was better pulling my boat off ramp. For a mom, i think the 40 extra miles a tank would be more appreciated. I still laugh at my buddy in civic si who I smoked 20-80 on highway with those 3.08s.
As for seats, were yours not the almost plastic fabric? Mine would bead liquid and didnt have any velour like my 03 slt gmc. I dont think the leather is any more durable...
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As for seats, were yours not the almost plastic fabric? Mine would bead liquid and didnt have any velour like my 03 slt gmc. I dont think the leather is any more durable...
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I'd venture to guess you're probably right about the super low first gear being developed with the 3.08 in mind. For curiosity sake, I'd like to drive a new Tahoe or suburban with the 3.08. I've not ever seen one in person on the lots of either of the dealers near me, at least not in the last 4-5 months.
As for the cloth on my '10 1500-they were most definitely a different fabric than was used in the trucks from 2000-2006, as a friend of mine had one of those with cloth that I rode in several times. Mine were black, not bad looking, and if I remember right they would tend to bead liquids and not totally soak in. My problem was the lint attraction property they had and the fact that small spots of mud or dirt were not easy to totally remove on the upholstery. For all I know, they may hold their shape and support better than the leather and may not be as prone to tearing on the exit side of the seats where so many do, but for me and my uses, leather is just easier all around to maintain day to day.
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Multiple personal anecdotes don't = facts. Well...alternate facts maybe.
The issues have been widely reported in the automotive press and GM has admitted to the issues. Furthermore they've issued several service bulletins to try and correct the issues.
GM has a major issue with its truck platform creating vibration issues and (in the SUVs) buffeting problems. GM sells ~10 million vehicles a year. Even if 2% of those have a nagging issue, like vibration at speed, it's going to be a big problem for them. And it has.
Those are the real, unemotional facts.
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