What "must have" option bumped you to the next trim level?

[Illnasty]

I think it's really good vinyl...



Same here but the pleather stuff seems to last a lot longer and doesn't get as worn and wrinkled nearly as quick. However, nothing beats the smell of a brand new car with leather and of course the feel of that new leather.

1000% agree. Even in my old truck, if it's been sitting for a few days, the smell of the leather hits you in face as soon as you open the door.

 

[WillCO]

We have the MB-Tex vinyl in our 2016 C300 Mercedes. It does appear that it will wear better than leather. It also definitely lacks that wonderful new leather smell. So, I agree.

 

[chicagofan00]

We have the MB-Tex vinyl in our 2016 C300 Mercedes. It does appear that it will wear better than leather. It also definitely lacks that wonderful new leather smell. So, I agree.

I found the MB-Tex leather in my C400 to be pretty damn nice.

The rest of the vehicle on the other hand...what a piece of junk.

 

[WillCO]

I found the MB-Tex leather in my C400 to be pretty damn nice.

The rest of the vehicle on the other hand...what a piece of junk.

Ours is too new to tell, but it is the first Mercedes after many BMWs. So it will be interesting to see.

 

[cardude2000]

I found the MB-Tex leather in my C400 to be pretty damn nice.

The rest of the vehicle on the other hand...what a piece of junk.

Interesting. We have an E and have had, knock wood, very good luck with it. Looks like the C gets 2 out of 5 stars from JD Power for initial quality...

 

[WillCO]

I guess the interesting thing (at risk of hijacking this into a Mercedes discussion) is that they are not ashamed of the MB-Tex at all. Our C300 is very well-equipped; it has just about everything. But they did not spec leather on it, and at the time we were looking there appeared not to be a single C300 in Denver or Colorado Springs that did have leather. And, many of the C45 models had it too!

 

[cardude2000]

I guess the interesting thing (at risk of hijacking this into a Mercedes discussion) is that they are not ashamed of the MB-Tex at all. Our C300 is very well-equipped; it has just about everything. But they did not spec leather on it, and at the time we were looking there appeared not to be a single C300 in Denver or Colorado Springs that did have leather. And, many of the C45 models had it too!

Thats interesting. Looks like adding leather is a no cost option. Not sure why nobody orders it that way....

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehi...el-C300WB4#loadOptions=2:040&tab=tab-interior

 

[WillCO]

Thats interesting. Looks like adding leather is a no cost option. Not sure why nobody orders it that way....

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehi...el-C300WB4#loadOptions=2:040&tab=tab-interior

Right?

 

[chicagofan00]

Ours is too new to tell, but it is the first Mercedes after many BMWs. So it will be interesting to see.

Interesting. We have an E and have had, knock wood, very good luck with it. Looks like the C gets 2 out of 5 stars from JD Power for initial quality...

I absolutely loved the C400 for what it was supposed to be. The design inside and out is gorgeous (IMO) but beyond that, the one I got was a nightmare. Within a couple weeks of ownership there were several rattles inside the dash that they could not seem to resolve. The fit and finish on various parts on the exterior left a lot to be desired and after the purchase I noticed a few areas where the bumper did not light up properly with the body and the dealership was not interested in fixing it as they said they can take the bumper off but gave no guarantees that they could put it on any better. Then I also had issues with a creaking noise when going over speed bumps. The dealership was able to fix that one. The straw that broke the camels back was the major issue with the collision prevention assist safety feature. I had on several occasions where it would completely fail on me and during the failure I would have reduced engine power and traction control would disable itself. The only way to fix it was to pull off the onto the side of the road and power the vehicle off entirely and restart it. It would then be good for a while and randomly happen again. On several occasions the dealership said the car didn't even record any errors even though I had photo and video proof of the issue. The dealership worked with engineers back in Germany and while they had a fix and it was being applied to cars on the factory line they provided no timeline for when they would have a fix available for the dealerships. The dealership then said that they obtained the details of the fix and their mechanics tried to replicate the fix but that did nothing for my car. Seeing as how this was my daily driver and I was using it to shuttle the kiddo to and from daycare everyday as well, I was not about to wait for a fix on what was turning out to be a rather big safety issue at that point so I dumped it and got into the Tahoe. /rant

Sorry for the thread derailment!

 

[WillCO]

I guess the right way to tie this up is to mention how much has changed when people are cross-shopping domestic full-size trucks against European sedans.

My Tahoe is a totally different animal than any of my BMWs (even the X5), but it is a very good specimen of its class and I don't regret the switch at all.

 

[chicagofan00]

I guess the right way to tie this up is to mention how much has changed when people are cross-shopping domestic full-size trucks against European sedans.

My Tahoe is a totally different animal than any of my BMWs (even the X5), but it is a very good specimen of its class and I don't regret the switch at all.

Agree completely. These trucks have come a long way, IMO.

 

[WillieFlo]

6.2L big V8, the Magnetic Ride Control and the closing center console cupholder/charging cable cubby pushed me to the Denali level.
Didn't care for all the Chrome, but I'm taking care of that.

 

[tdrumm]

I'm going to echo the sentiments of the other posters who commented that the apparent up contesting of the LT and SLT trims actually kept us from going up to LTZ or Denali. I even prefer the conventional suspension to the auto ride and magnetic ride offered on the upper trims.

We traded in a GMT-900 yukon Denali on our 2016 Tahoe LT. The only things we might miss are the cooled seats, but we have gained so much more. Amazingly the new generation 5.3 fills in well for the old 6.2L even with 3.08 gears while getting 6 more mpg on 87. I have the new 6.2L in my Silverado and it is a beast, so going down in engine size was something I was worried about but so far I don't miss it at all.

 

[WillCO]

I'm going to echo the sentiments of the other posters who commented that the apparent up contesting of the LT and SLT trims actually kept us from going up to LTZ or Denali. I even prefer the conventional suspension to the auto ride and magnetic ride offered on the upper trims.

We traded in a GMT-900 yukon Denali on our 2016 Tahoe LT. The only things we might miss are the cooled seats, but we have gained so much more. Amazingly the new generation 5.3 fills in well for the old 6.2L even with 3.08 gears while getting 6 more mpg on 87. I have the new 6.2L in my Silverado and it is a beast, so going down in engine size was something I was worried about but so far I don't miss it at all.

I just returned from a long weekend in Rocky Mountain National Park. We towed our Jayco pop-up over the hill, it's not too heavy at 1600-1700 pounds.

At no point did the 5.3l complain or provide too little power. It was completely sufficient for anything we asked it to do. The 6.2l is bigger and faster, and I might have sprung for one had it been available in a Tahoe - but the 5.3l is powerful enough.

 

[04ctd]

I thought the NNBS LTZ was the pinnacle of automotive engineering. We had a '99 Limited Tahoe, a 07 LT, a 13 LTZ, and then a 16 LT.

I really loved the smooth understated styling of the NNBS. we keep our cars VERY clean, and we always got compliments on the inside of our NNBS and how awesome and subtly it presented itself.

the 16 dash looks like a parts bin cobble together. I started a thread on the things most ppl dislike about the 15/16, but if you have not had a long term NNBS, you don't really think the new SUV's are sub-performers.

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/thre...ftware-agitate-you-on-your-new-60k-suv.93273/

we sold the 16 Burb and got a 17 Durango with the Hemi 5.7 V8 & 8 speed.

The difference is, everything is forced on you in the Chevy/GM, but in the Durango, you can configure almost every setting: from AFM, lane keeping sensitivity, even the adaptive cruise control following distance and crash avoidance distance. you can even adjust the steering sensitivity.

we need the durango's third row when kids are here for summer, but not year round, so the rear of the durango is big enough, but the body of the car is small enough that my wife feels comfortable & sporty in it.

in the durango You can turn off the AFM/VVT with a simple button on the dash, while it costs a few hundred dollars to turn off the Burb AFM.
but the durango VVT is not nearly as noticeable (wife has never noticed it) as the 2016 Burb AFM was (everyone in the car heard the drone)

the local Dodge dealer let us keep a V8 Durango for several days to decide, and the wife fell in love with the V8 power, so my recommendation would be to do the same: test drive a durango for a few days. but you have to be careful about durango's, because they dont have "trim levels" like LT or LTZ, you just have read the window sticker and figure out what you are getting (like our Durango has Air ride)

different strokes, diff folks....

 

[cardude2000]

I thought the NNBS LTZ was the pinnacle of automotive engineering. We had a '99 Limited Tahoe, a 07 LT, a 13 LTZ, and then a 16 LT.

I really loved the smooth understated styling of the NNBS. we keep our cars VERY clean, and we always got compliments on the inside of our NNBS and how awesome and subtly it presented itself.

the 16 dash looks like a parts bin cobble together. I started a thread on the things most ppl dislike about the 15/16, but if you have not had a long term NNBS, you don't really think the new SUV's are sub-performers.

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/thre...ftware-agitate-you-on-your-new-60k-suv.93273/

we sold the 16 Burb and got a 17 Durango with the Hemi 5.7 V8 & 8 speed.

The difference is, everything is forced on you in the Chevy/GM, but in the Durango, you can configure almost every setting: from AFM, lane keeping sensitivity, even the adaptive cruise control following distance and crash avoidance distance. you can even adjust the steering sensitivity.

we need the durango's third row when kids are here for summer, but not year round, so the rear of the durango is big enough, but the body of the car is small enough that my wife feels comfortable & sporty in it.

in the durango You can turn off the AFM/VVT with a simple button on the dash, while it costs a few hundred dollars to turn off the Burb AFM.
but the durango VVT is not nearly as noticeable (wife has never noticed it) as the 2016 Burb AFM was (everyone in the car heard the drone)

the local Dodge dealer let us keep a V8 Durango for several days to decide, and the wife fell in love with the V8 power, so my recommendation would be to do the same: test drive a durango for a few days. but you have to be careful about durango's, because they dont have "trim levels" like LT or LTZ, you just have read the window sticker and figure out what you are getting (like our Durango has Air ride)

different strokes, diff folks....

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Well that's a random post.

Either way, glad you headed everyone's advice and have started sitting in vehicles before buying them.

Enjoy the Chrysler!

 

[schaffer05]

Well that's a random post.

Either way, glad you headed everyone's advice and have started sitting in vehicles before buying them.

Enjoy the Chrysler!

Lol when he says he started a post "most people don't like..." what he meant was he was whining and no one was buying it. That thread is actually pretty funny. Kind of makes me want to join the Durango forum to see how long before he's complaining about it, bet not long.


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[cardude2000]

Lol when he says he started a post "most people don't like..." what he meant was he was whining and no one was buying it. That thread is actually pretty funny. Kind of makes me want to join the Durango forum to see how long before he's complaining about it, bet not long.


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He was saying he listed things that most people dislike. Unfortunately, 'most people' was 'just him'.

Hey, if he likes DocMcStuffins/Fisher Price looking dashboards...To each their own!

 

[cardude2000]

how long before he's complaining about it, bet not long.

not long:

increase interior storage in center console? swap jeep? aftermarket? remove DVD?

we have had Tahoe & Suburbans for several years, but the AFM (active fuel mgmt) has gotten very bad, and our last Tahoe had an AFM failure, and then the Suburban we replaced it with, had a HORRIBLE nauseous drone all the time.

you could put a gallon of milk in the center console of all our last vehicles.


so we swapped over to a 2017 DD with the DVD player, but you can't even put an ink pen in that tiny cubby hole. (wife keeps a box of business cards in there)

can we put the DVD player somewhere else? under the seat?

 

[WillCO]

the 16 dash looks like a parts bin cobble together. I started a thread on the things most ppl dislike about the 15/16, but if you have not had a long term NNBS, you don't really think the new SUV's are sub-performers.

Troll.