Double din and speaker upgrades

[O5Denali]

I have used the search function and I just want to make sure all my bases are checked off. I don't know much about audio or all the specs... what peak wats and RMS all that jazz is

I'm looking at doing the double din conversion in my 02 Denali. It has the Bose with 2 blown speakers. I was looking at doing this cheap deck

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KJQ89Q6/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

Paired with these speakers... componenets in front w new tweeters and coxial in rear. Same brand pioneer

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014XQ6UKA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A3ADWMNXT7FS32&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014Z7ILY0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Along with all this I will be doing the factory Bose bypass mod that can be found posted here

http://www.savagehomeautomation.com/projects/bypass-factory-ampcrossover-in-2002-chevy-tahoe.html

This should allow my speakers to be used by their full potential/power instead of being throttled by the Bose amp. As well as keep the power going to my speakers in the third row. Will this be a decent setup for around $250 incl wiring harness, mount kits etc. I'm not looking to get to crazy just replace the broken speakers really, and add the back-up cam, aux instead of using my FM transmitter which is getting annoying. The deck says 320W max and the speakers say 350W max? Audio gurus chime in

 

[Rocket Man]

Your Denali has the Lux amp which is better than the standard amp. I don't think the standard Bose bypass will work and besides, the Lux amp is pretty decent. I suggest using the Bose amp for all the speakers and just upgrade the door speakers with some decent aftermarket ones. They need to be 2 ohm in order to match the Bose speakers or else the output will be low if you use standard 4 ohm speakers. With a new head unit and upgraded speakers you'll be amazed. The only thing that might be lacking at that point would be the sub due to the Bose sub design for the Lux system. It's a bandpass design in the left rear panel and you can't just change the sub due to the weird design. If you're interested in an excellent but kind of expensive solution to the sub you can look in the first few pages of my build thread. The link is below. There are other sub options too or you can just leave it as is.

 

[Rocket Man]

BTW the Lux amp will be better than any built-in amp in a head unit. It might say 320 w max but that's total for all channels turned all the way up until it's all distorted so it's more like 30 watts per channel. Your Lux amp is better and cleaner. Get a good head unit too or you'll be wasting your time installing that piece of junk Boss.

 

[YukonXL04]

Your stock radio probably sounds better than that boss head unit will... stay away from boss lol

 

[Doubeleive]

the Pioneer MVH-S400BT is the same price as that boss junk and it will be much nicer

 

[Rocket Man]

I just looked at those bypass instructions. They're for a a non- Bose system. Do some research on the different Bose systems. There's a non- Lux standard Bose system and your Lux Bose system. Also, don't forget you'll need a steering wheel control interface. PAC makes ones that are straightforward to install.

 

[Doubeleive]

if you really want to add the rear camera function I bet you could find a decent used pioneer or kenwood 2 din with backup camera for the same price online

 

[O5Denali]

Okay well now my plans are all messed up lol. Anyone recommend some decent 2 ohm speakers with tweeter replacements for the front? I guess I'll leave the back alone for now

I'm looking at not breaking the bank for boxing day deals on the head unit. If the boss is junk how do these sound (all boxing day deals locally) I'm in Canada so its a pain getting to the states during the week

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-YlDBfdZ1IFW/p_113DDX395/Kenwood-Excelon-DDX395.html (on sale for $200 CAD)

https://www.crutchfield.ca/S-5cxVqK6yA2O/p_130291BT/Pioneer-AVH-291BT.html (on sale for $208 CAD)

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-tgSevDLThxD/p_130X2800BS/Pioneer-AVH-X2800BS.html (on sale for $248 CAD)

 

[inmypassatlife]

Don't buy a turd double din, go with an entry level pioneer or kenwood

 

[O5Denali]

The last 3 I posted are turd double dins?

 

[Rocket Man]

The last 3 I posted are turd double dins?

Im pretty sure he meant the Boss is a turd. The Pioneer's or Kenwood should do fine.

 

[chevy529]

The last 3 I posted are turd double dins?

Kenwood and Pioneer both are vast leaps better than a Boss head unit. I know that the Excelon line Kenwood has are decent quality.

I MIGHT put a Boss in a ... golf cart.


EDIT: Maybe this??

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Kenwood-Blu...%3A86a40edb1600a8669ac59487ffe73e9c%7Ciid%3A1

 

[Joao GANDAREZ]

I recently did a dual din in my truck. I did a zeepin android based radio. $160 https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/252946462971

Put a set of ct sounds meso 6.5 component set in the front. $125https://www.ctsounds.com/collections/meso-series-speakers/products/meso-6-5-comp

And for the rear i got a set of old-school Rockford fosgate power series co axails. $40 used.

I have a regular bose system. But sounds way better great base with the regular bose center console sub for now. The only thibg i would change now that its done is spend more on an android OS radio

 

[MidwestMike]

What don't you like about the cheaper Android head unit you put in?

I spent a little more for mine, but curious.
I just finished and turned it on, haven't had a chance to play with it at all yet.

 

[Joao GANDAREZ]

The bluetooth connects in and out for like half second while playing music through bluetooth.the eq isnt the best but it works. Im running it through the stock amp so idk if thats what i have to change to get it to sound better. thats about my only gripes at the moment. Ive had it for 2 weeks.connected it to my google it has connects to wifi. But im thinking of getting a internet plan just for it. In order for it to have internet all the time for navigation,music and in case one day if the truck is ever stolen i could locate it with that too if possible. i use google maps. It came with igo. But i downloaded google offline maps. Not using igo.. i seen people root the android radios not trying to do that at the moment. Let me enjoy it before messing with it.

 

[Rocket Man]

The bluetooth connects in and out for like half second while playing music through bluetooth.the eq isnt the best but it works. Im running it through the stock amp so idk if thats what i have to change to get it to sound better. thats about my only gripes at the moment. Ive had it for 2 weeks.connected it to my google it has connects to wifi. But im thinking of getting a internet plan just for it. In order for it to have internet all the time for navigation,music and in case one day if the truck is ever stolen i could locate it with that too if possible. i use google maps. It came with igo. But i downloaded google offline maps. Not using igo.. i seen people root the android radios not trying to do that at the moment. Let me enjoy it before messing with it.

Part of the reason it doesn't sound that great is the fact those speakers are 4 ohm and Bose speakers are 2 ohm. If you run a 4 ohm speaker on a Bose amp the power is cut almost in half so the sound level is way down. And if you have 2 ohm Bose speakers in the rear doors and 4 ohm speakers in the front doors, you have a mismatched output level so you'll have to try to force more of the power through the fronts using the fader which makes the whole system suffer. You either need to replace all 4 speakers with 4 ohm ones and use an aftermarket amp to run them or find 2 ohm speakers for the fronts in order to keep using the Bose amp. There are 2 ohm 6.5" speakers out there, you just have to look hard. I'm running JBL GTO628's which sound great but they're not made anymore. They do make a GTO620 which is 2.5 ohms and would work good. I saw them on Ebay for around $100 a pair. https://www.jbl.com/car-speakers/St...m GTO620___color=Black-GLOBAL-Current#start=1

 

[Doubeleive]

The bluetooth connects in and out for like half second while playing music through bluetooth.the eq isnt the best but it works. Im running it through the stock amp so idk if thats what i have to change to get it to sound better. thats about my only gripes at the moment. Ive had it for 2 weeks.connected it to my google it has connects to wifi. But im thinking of getting a internet plan just for it. In order for it to have internet all the time for navigation,music and in case one day if the truck is ever stolen i could locate it with that too if possible. i use google maps. It came with igo. But i downloaded google offline maps. Not using igo.. i seen people root the android radios not trying to do that at the moment. Let me enjoy it before messing with it.

if your head unit gives you these options try these settings and see how it sounds with the stock amp, mine sounds decent with these settings on the stock bose amp

 

[YukonXL04]

Kenwood and Pioneer both are vast leaps better than a Boss head unit. I know that the Excelon line Kenwood has are decent quality.

I MIGHT put a Boss in a ... golf cart.

Lol forget that. Even my golf cart has a pioneer!

Now my 4 wheeler does have a boss bluetooth controller... and I hate the sound quality on it. But I haven't found a name brand that will work in its place yet. And the mud and water haven't killed it yet

 

[Joao GANDAREZ]

Part of the reason it doesn't sound that great is the fact those speakers are 4 ohm and Bose speakers are 2 ohm. If you run a 4 ohm speaker on a Bose amp the power is cut almost in half so the sound level is way down. And if you have 2 ohm Bose speakers in the rear doors and 4 ohm speakers in the front doors, you have a mismatched output level so you'll have to try to force more of the power through the fronts using the fader which makes the whole system suffer. You either need to replace all 4 speakers with 4 ohm ones and use an aftermarket amp to run them or find 2 ohm speakers for the fronts in order to keep using the Bose amp. There are 2 ohm 6.5" speakers out there, you just have to look hard. I'm running JBL GTO628's which sound great but they're not made anymore. They do make a GTO620 which is 2.5 ohms and would work good. I saw them on Ebay for around $100 a pair. https://www.jbl.com/car-speakers/Stadium+GTO620_.html?dwvar_Stadium GTO620___color=Black-GLOBAL-Current#start=1

The fronts have a crossover so im unsure of ohms after going through the crossovers.or at the crossover itself.im no electrical guru. Tbh idk the ohms on any of them. However it does sound better all around. Not an audiophile at all just like to know stuff is good condition of speakers were questionable. If i was really worried about sound id install amps aswell as a real sub. But its good the way it is for now. I was looking at an alpiine ktp445u for the doors installing in the factory amp location, one of these amps i have laying around for bass and a sub in the stock <02 sub box i have. Tbh i would of loved to keep the factory if it had bluetooth and a usb for music. I just wanted Bluetooth for calls and music. As well as usb for music the backup camera is a plus

 

[willinnashville]

I did a system in my 05 Denali that I think you might be interested in. I bought a new double din head unit (a Dual, which I would seriously not recommend) and a scosche kit to interface with the existing Lux system for my stock speakers. I added a separate Boss monoblock amp to power an infiniti reference 8" sub I had been given for father's day. I added a backup camera and steering wheel controls. If/when the stock speakers give up, I'll look for a replacement 2 ohm set. The stock amp is fine for the stock speakers, and the sub bumps impressively enough to make my mirrors unusable at half volume. Now I have a head unit with bluetooth for my phone and music, a bumping sub that goes lower and louder than my stock sup, and backup camera.

If I were doing it again, I'd do the same for everything except the head unit. It's a serious piece of garbage that is getting replaced when I make up my mind about it's replacement.