2011 Yukon XL Denali torque converter shudder. Initial thoughts and questions

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Dadnali68

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Hi all,

My 2011 Denali XL AWD is having some issues, and I believe its converter shudder.

-vibrates and rpms fluctuate by about 200 every time.
-only happens cold.
-only happens in higher gears, 5th and 6th.
-Trans itself is still very smooth shifting.

Here's where I'm looking for information:

-this sounds like textbook converter shudder, correct?
-truck is 15 years old and lives in western New York. It's getting pretty crispy with rust. Probably not worth putting a new trans into, but very worth putting a new converter into and doing a fluid and filter exchange.
-needs a rear main seal while im in there.
-good idea to "flip the pill" while its out to help with cooling?
-looking at the VEGE HD torque converter from summit racing. Anyone used it before?
-what are some other "while you're in there" tasks I should look at doing?
-I've only ever pulled a trans on rwd cars. Anything I need to know about an AWD pull? Can I keep the transfer case attached? Any fluid exchanges I should do the Tcase?

Any help would be appreciated. I've done a bunch of reading on here, and I think I have a solid plan that fits my circumstances, but I'd love some outside input from folks that have seen it/done it.

Thank you!
 

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I got 2011 Escalade still driving on a bad converter a year later.

I did this all through tunning.

Gotta up the pressures, on the TCC, 26psi move it to 50 for a start. grab the gain from 1.5 move it to 1.0. Remove all slip, disable the AFM.

Then on the tcc clutch enable vs throttle. somewhere over 40% maybe a tad lower the torque demand on the clutch at 5th and 6th gear is too much and it starts slipping no matter how much pressure you feed it, so you set the enable and disable speeds to some very high numbers so the TCC simply unlocks when it sees high loads, then relocks when the loads come down. That right there has deleted all shudder and I bet I can sell it that way and the next owner would never know.

Its a band aid for me, as I dont feel like dropping trans on a rusty 16yo truck. But through tempering and learning with HP tuners it worked for me.

As always drain the fluid, put new filter and new fluid in it and some TC shudder from lubeguard as a start. But this will only get worse if you dont tune that stuff out.
 

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If it is shuddering already you can pretty much count on at the very least a mild rebuild, the bell housing on these get messed up when the torque converter starts going then you may as well do a kit on it as well. If you let it go it will take out the pump too.
the bell housing is completely different than a 4L
the trick is to replace the oem converter with a billet converter BEFORE the problems start.
 

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I put the Luk new converter in my 6L80 this year, working really well so far and was not expensive, rated to 1,000 ft pounds of torque. A nice option to have today. Amazon has them in stock as does Rock Auto. Do some reading, I felt it compared well with the billet offerings for less money and you did not need to return a core after the job. Luk has been an OEM supplier of torque converters for many years so you are not playing with a newbie.

Edit: Luk’s torque claim is listed in NM not in SAE values. The conversion of 1000 NM is less but still capable of nearly 800 ft pounds of torque. That is pretty impressive.
 
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Update:
My final answer is that I'm doing... nothing.
Truck is starting to fall apart little by little. Mechanic thinks the frame only has a few years left before it breaks. NY rust will kill it quicker than I had hoped. I had my mechanic do a trans flush. Made the symptoms almost disappear. I'm going to save the 5k for a new trans and put it toward my next one. I'll limp this old thing along for a little while and then she'll become a doner to a new to me truck from the south.

Anyone know of a 2010-2014 Escalade ESV for sale in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, etc? I guess I'll be looking in a year or two lol.

Thank you everyone who chimed in with your wisdom. I appreciate you all.
 

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Hi all,

My 2011 Denali XL AWD is having some issues, and I believe its converter shudder.

-vibrates and rpms fluctuate by about 200 every time.
-only happens cold.
-only happens in higher gears, 5th and 6th.
-Trans itself is still very smooth shifting.

Here's where I'm looking for information:

-this sounds like textbook converter shudder, correct?
-truck is 15 years old and lives in western New York. It's getting pretty crispy with rust. Probably not worth putting a new trans into, but very worth putting a new converter into and doing a fluid and filter exchange.
-needs a rear main seal while im in there.
-good idea to "flip the pill" while its out to help with cooling?
-looking at the VEGE HD torque converter from summit racing. Anyone used it before?
-what are some other "while you're in there" tasks I should look at doing?
-I've only ever pulled a trans on rwd cars. Anything I need to know about an AWD pull? Can I keep the transfer case attached? Any fluid exchanges I should do the Tcase?

Any help would be appreciated. I've done a bunch of reading on here, and I think I have a solid plan that fits my circumstances, but I'd love some outside input from folks that have seen it/done it.

Thank you!
I used two tubes of "Shudderfix." It worked ib my 2013 Suburban.
 

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