New poster lots of supercharger questions?

[Struggle]

I have a 2010 Z71 5.3 3.42 gears. I last week checked out buying a used Ford raptor but being a mechanic I'm nervous about the reliability of them as they seem to be money makers in the shop I work in. Also looked at new F150s really like the 5.0 engine. Anyways my thoughts is to keep the Tahoe and do some upgrades.

I'm looking for a little more power. thoughts are Magnacharger 1900. Shorty headers and at back system.

My questions are will the magna charger need custom tuned or does something come with the kit on it. Will shorty headers and cat back be enough to support the improvement of the 1900.

I find the trans is a little slow on downshifts so I feel it needs to be tuned.

If I install the charger will a tune knock out AFM and if so would a person be better off just replacing lifters and doing a complete delete on this? Long tube headers?

I use the vehicle GASP for a stump grinding business and also pull a boat on weekends and reliability needs to be there. I'm not looking to race it. I just want to get improve drivability pulling the boat more than anything as where we live it is all hills. Vehicle has 67,000 on the clock. Also these improvements are to avoid buying a new truck as I really don't want to go to a long wheel base vehicle as a truck if I can avoid it for my line of work as I can get in place with the tahoe that I could not with a four door truck.

Thoughts from those that have direct experience in this set up? I don't want really want opinions from those that have not done this. Not trying to be rude. I need more than anything the knowledge from those that have been through this upgrade and what you might do different.

Also wife is on board for these upgrades which helps immensely


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[JennaBear]

Blower will really wake the engine up. Don't waste your money on shorty headers. The magnacharger kits can come with a canned tune. We sell them either with a custom tune, a canned Maggie tune or no tune.

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[Struggle]

I read the review about the shorties providing 8hp while not much it would seem every bit to improve flow will also reduce heat build up. I know it is a fair amount of work to get them in but I figured if you gain 8hp on a normal engine then the gain might be a bit more with the charger?


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Also can install be done without a tune right away? Knowing the trans needs tweaked as well I don't know of anywhere BB can live tune it as I understand you need the vehicle to do the trans tune as well


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[Deephaven]

I'd want the trans tune before doing anything with the motor. I had one, but my trans was weak and just in the initial WOT testing tuning I wiped out my 1-2 clutchpack.

I went with the Whipple, but plan more long term ways to make HP as well.

 

[Struggle]

unfortunately in Iowa I'm not aware of anyone around here that does live tuning. Unless someone here knows of a reputable place


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[tx tahoe z71]

Definitely spring for the custom Autocal tune over the canned tune. Go a step colder on spark plugs, I recommend NGK TR6 gapped at .035", changed every 15-20k miles.

Skip the shorty headers

 

[Deephaven]

unfortunately in Iowa I'm not aware of anyone around here that does live tuning. Unless someone here knows of a reputable place


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I'm in MN and while we have people that can do it, I opted for a logged email tune for the learning experience.

The Maggie will come with a baseline if you buy the kit, but getting HPTuners and a tuner kit won't be much more and will allow more growth for the future.

 

[Struggle]

will hp tuner allow for trans adjustments? It was my understanding the trans module can't be sent out like the PCM as it is internal to trans


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[07Burb]

unfortunately in Iowa I'm not aware of anyone around here that does live tuning. Unless someone here knows of a reputable place


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Either wait for blackbear to come to your area and have Justin tune it or order TV autocal and have Justin tune via autocal. It's well worth the money!!

 

[992dr]

I read the review about the shorties providing 8hp while not much it would seem every bit to improve flow will also reduce heat build up. I know it is a fair amount of work to get them in but I figured if you gain 8hp on a normal engine then the gain might be a bit more with the charger?
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Listen to Jenna.
Just think of how many ponies you'd gain if you got LTs. Don't waste your money on shorties. Do it right the first time.

 

[Struggle]

With LTs you have to do a 02 delete? tune

I think the closest BB gets is Minneapolis? hours for us
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[ezdaar]

Get the tvs1900.
Install long tubes from speed engineering. Or a set of doug throley mid length headers. Jenna sells them.
Skip a catback, have a shop install a ****** maxflow.
You MUST tune the engine via the hand held programmer that comes with the blower or you WILL blow up the engine. Then get a in person black bear tune asap or the email auto cal tune also from jenna.
Yess you will do a rear O2 delete. Its no big deal.

Send jenna a Pm, tell her this list.

Package 1:
Tvs1900 with autocal tune.
Doug thorley headers.
****** max flow or the standard issue magnaflow, she knows which one.

Package 2:
Adds to package 1.
AFM/DOD delete kit
With a 212-218, 56x-56x cam and its appropriate springs and pushrods.
Aeroforce interceptor and aem uego wideband 02 sensor with the A pillar mount.
You will need to have the exhaust shop weld the 02 bumg that comes with the gauge weled onto your Y pipe for the wideband.

This is the standard issue cookie cutter basic build.
Ots been done tens of thousands of times. Follow the protocol and all will be well.

Get that stiff bought, installed and tuned properly, come back here and tell us how fracking awesome it is!

 

[Deephaven]

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Great advice. I did the same thing, just different vendor since I wanted a Whipple. Only difference was using a base tune from my tuner and not the handheld that could have come with it.

HPT will tune the trans. It is how the mail order tune was done on mine.

 

[mattluttrell]

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Great advice. I did the same thing, just different vendor since I wanted a Whipple. Only difference was using a base tune from my tuner and not the handheld that could have come with it.

HPT will tune the trans. It is how the mail order tune was done on mine.

Are you in an Escalade? Did you do the Whipple 2.3? Worth it?

I have a 6.2 Escalade and am looking at the TVS or Whipple.

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[JennaBear]

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Great advice. I did the same thing, just different vendor since I wanted a Whipple. Only difference was using a base tune from my tuner and not the handheld that could have come with it.

HPT will tune the trans. It is how the mail order tune was done on mine.

We sell Whipple too . Actually, we sell all major brand name FI systems and can typically beat anyone's prices.


We offer packages for the systems in a few ways:

Blower without tuning
Blower with standard handheld tuning
Blower with BBP tuning (scan cable or AutoCal is recommended)

We can also package up headers (we sell a few different brands) if you would like.

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Are you in an Escalade? Did you do the Whipple 2.3? Worth it?

I have a 6.2 Escalade and am looking at the TVS or Whipple.

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I have the TVS2300 on my 2013 Denali XL, and we are running a TVS1900 on our 2013 6.2L Silverado.

 

[Deephaven]

Doh!!

 

[Blumax]

I have a 2010 Z71 5.3 3.42 gears. I last week checked out buying a used Ford raptor but being a mechanic I'm nervous about the reliability of them as they seem to be money makers in the shop I work in. Also looked at new F150s really like the 5.0 engine. Anyways my thoughts is to keep the Tahoe and do some upgrades.

I'm looking for a little more power. thoughts are Magnacharger 1900. Shorty headers and at back system.

My questions are will the magna charger need custom tuned or does something come with the kit on it. Will shorty headers and cat back be enough to support the improvement of the 1900.

I find the trans is a little slow on downshifts so I feel it needs to be tuned.

If I install the charger will a tune knock out AFM and if so would a person be better off just replacing lifters and doing a complete delete on this? Long tube headers?

I use the vehicle GASP for a stump grinding business and also pull a boat on weekends and reliability needs to be there. I'm not looking to race it. I just want to get improve drivability pulling the boat more than anything as where we live it is all hills. Vehicle has 67,000 on the clock. Also these improvements are to avoid buying a new truck as I really don't want to go to a long wheel base vehicle as a truck if I can avoid it for my line of work as I can get in place with the tahoe that I could not with a four door truck.

Thoughts from those that have direct experience in this set up? I don't want really want opinions from those that have not done this. Not trying to be rude. I need more than anything the knowledge from those that have been through this upgrade and what you might do different.

Also wife is on board for these upgrades which helps immensely


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There's several locations in IA that provide dyno tunes both live and remote. For your convenience I suggest you check out http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=330218

 

[JennaBear]

I'd want the trans tune before doing anything with the motor. I had one, but my trans was weak and just in the initial WOT testing tuning I wiped out my 1-2 clutchpack.

I went with the Whipple, but plan more long term ways to make HP as well.

Just an FYI, sounds like your torque management was completely removed (Whipple's tuning does this by default if I remember correctly), that is very dangerous, and is probably the reason why you lost your clutch pack. I am running 11psi on my TVS2300 and have had no transmission issues. The 6spd transmissions are pretty stout, you should have had no issues.

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[Struggle]

I looked into the Whipple (it looks quite impressive) and greatly appreciate all the info. Today I made the mistake of going to the GM dealership and came home with a different result. Hope I didn't waste anyones time on this issue. I was three days from ordering the supercharger but the 6.2 in a 1500 was calling to me like treasure to a pirate. Ifured I couldn't go wrong with 460 ft lb of torque.

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[Deephaven]

Just an FYI, sounds like your torque management was completely removed (Whipple's tuning does this by default if I remember correctly), that is very dangerous, and is probably the reason why you lost your clutch pack. I am running 11psi on my TVS2300 and have had no transmission issues. The 6spd transmissions are pretty stout, you should have had no issues.

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Torque management was on. Wasn't using a Whipple tune. Pretty sure the trans was really wounded and more power just kicked it over the edge.