Android with SiriusXM tuner

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Does anyone know of a Android based radio that support a Sirius tuner? Not the app, the actual satellite based one.

I want Waze and other Android functions, not the Pioneer/Kenwood interface.
 

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I've been looking for the same for a couple years. I look/search again about every 6 months, but so far I haven't come across anything. It unfortunately just doesn't seem to exist. Apparently more people just stream. Everything you find when looking for anything Android and Sirius/XM related just references the app....not an actual receiver that an Android based head unit can accept the input from and interface with/control.

The best solution I've found is using an Android head unit that will accept a cellular dongle, then getting a cheap data plan and allowing the head unit to have it's own dedicated SIM/connection. More expensive than Sirius/XM, but you'd also have a bit more flexibility. I.e Youtube, Spotify, Pandora, etc, etc.
 

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I never use Android Auto on my Pioneer. The Pioneer interface is a little slow at times but most importantly, that USB connection charges hella slow.
 

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hmm, I use android auto on my nex 8200 with my pixel xl and everything works just fine, if I wanted to I could easily connect a roku or a chromecast or any other android box to the hdmi and connect it to a mobile hotspot but i mostly just listen to music from my ipod or Sirius and use waze, movies I just put on a sd card and put it in the deck and everything is good to go. the rest of the android function is useless crap anyway I'm not going to sit and play candycrush on my car deck.
 

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The idea is to not have to use a connected phone for any of the apps or native Android features. To have a true Android head unit, not the Pioneer or Kenwood iterations, that can also interface with a traditional Sirius/XM receiver for audio.

To my knowledge, nobody makes anything to accomplish this. You can only access Sirius/XM content on an Android head unit using the Android app and data, as opposed to a receiver.
 

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hmm, I use android auto on my nex 8200 with my pixel xl and everything works just fine, if I wanted to I could easily connect a roku or a chromecast or any other android box to the hdmi and connect it to a mobile hotspot but i mostly just listen to music from my ipod or Sirius and use waze, movies I just put on a sd card and put it in the deck and everything is good to go. the rest of the android function is useless crap anyway I'm not going to sit and play candycrush on my car deck.

The charging aspect was the biggest turn off. How do you see your phone charging? As quick as direct charger? Any ways to improve power?
 

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The charging aspect was the biggest turn off. How do you see your phone charging? As quick as direct charger? Any ways to improve power?
Phone charges like normal, when it's on android auto the screen is off anyway so it's not drawing any extra juice or anything, I kind of like that it charges and does what it needs to do at the same time
 

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The idea is to not have to use a connected phone for any of the apps or native Android features. To have a true Android head unit, not the Pioneer or Kenwood iterations, that can also interface with a traditional Sirius/XM receiver for audio.

To my knowledge, nobody makes anything to accomplish this. You can only access Sirius/XM content on an Android head unit using the Android app and data, as opposed to a receiver.
the work around for that is just have a spare phone attached and then either on a data plan or connected to a hot spot, kenwood has wireless android auto now, pioneer didn't present anything at CES but they will be releasing wireless android auto as well soon, alpine didn't go wireless yet but they did make a bigger screen
 

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Work around, yes, as desirable, no.

Some people don't have unlimited data plans, or want one. Sometimes you might be in an area with low or no data service. That's where satellite radio shines. Virtually always a signal, and if you barter with Sirius/XM you can get it for as low as about $5/mo.

So for someone who is an existing Sirius/XM user, moving to an Android head unit then necessitating having to now use an app, obtain a dedicated data plan for the head unit or use a paired phone, and pay extra to Sirius/XM for the Android app streaming access, it just isn't a good solution.

It's a shame that someone out there doesn't make a generic/native Android head unit that can interface with a standard Sirius/XM hardware receiver (like the SXV300V1).
 

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can you convert the cable to usb or rca's on that receiver? most of the android units come with plenty of inputs via rca or usb
 

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can you convert the cable to usb or rca's on that receiver? most of the android units come with plenty of inputs via rca or usb

Potentially, the Sirius/XM receivers have a unique connection/connector that is bi-directional though. Meaning not only does it send audio/info to the head unit, but also receives information from it, i.e what stations to tune to, pausing the song, starting it over, etc.

So, even if you could take the output cable from the receive and strip the audio signal out and convert it to a native input (USB/RCA/etc), then you're still left with no way to interface with/control the Sirius/XM receiver to ever changes stations or anything.
 

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Sirius used to sell a small tuner that can connect to an aux input. You have to control it through the unit but that's not too hard.
 

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Aware, but the intent is to try to find a fully integrated solution/option for an Android based head unit, which apparently doesn't exist.
 

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Phone charges like normal, when it's on android auto the screen is off anyway so it's not drawing any extra juice or anything, I kind of like that it charges and does what it needs to do at the same time

I tested this even with phone screen off (well, phone screen for me isnt off, it shows "Android Auto" but definitely seen phone sustain its current charge at best versus when plugged into outlet with screen on and heavy use, the battery percentage goes up. My expert audio friend prefers kenwood and I think mentioned their charging ability is better but not by much. On my pioneer, I hate using android auto for a while and battery warning comes on after I unplug it. I'm confident there is a difference. BTW, I do the mobile hot spot with extra phone but find better entertainment having main or secondary phone linked to youtube or similar in connection with bluetooth or chromecast (A/v) to watch videos or listen to what I want to listen to.

I have trial version of siri now and though its better than normal radio, I hate the fact that you still have to listen to whats available. I rather a spotify/youtube/apple music where I can control what I want to listen to and prefer youtube over all of them since I can listen and watch videos.
 

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I'm going the cheap route in my '09 LTZ Tahoe. I just plug my phone into the aux port and stream Pandora radio into my Bose/Nav stock radio. I can hold out until better options are available.
 

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Just wanted to share update. I plugged phone in and it actually does charge well! It says "slow charging" on the phone but I believe it does the same when plugged into direct car charger too. But to help with this thread conversation, under my list of playable music app options is Sirius (downloaded on phone) and I believe its an Android Auto setup, not a Pioneer setup. Wouldnt using Sirius through Android Auto solve this issue? That would be an android interface rather than pioneer/kenwood right?
 

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I believe youre still at square one...the app uses data not a dedicated antenna (using android auto) you can just download the app on an android headunit via playstore.

I dont think youll find an all in one solution, as siriusXM requires licensing and whatnot, which most of the chinese manufacturers couldnt care less about.

kinda bored so i did a little searching...looks like it may do something
https://www.mo-co-so.com/MJS-Gadgets-USB-SCC1-Sirius-interface-p/mcs-mjs-scc1.htm
 
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