GM dropping CarPlay

[DuraYuk]

Are you an @$$hole in real life too, or just on the web.

Im asking how far you take the tech averse approach. Why am I an ******* for asking you questions ?

 

[DuraYuk]

The issue isn't so much "what" infotainment system they are using, it's if the user is going to be forced to use the OEM system (by removing the carplay/android auto functionality), then there will be some type of service fee attached to it (internet capability).

Whereas the carplay/AA interface is "free" to use...and sure there are those that will say it's not free, by having to pay for your cell phone service, but if you aren't already paying for use of a smart phone, then this conversation isn't for the flip phone crowd.

The internet access that comes with GM vehicles has really fluctuated over the past few years. Go back a couple of years and GMC added $1500 to the price of their vehicles for 3yrs of service...a literal line item on the options on the window sticker, while Chevys were coming standard with 3 months of service, so the speed limit sign on the dash and the google interface were useless once the service ran out....

We just picked up a 2026 Z71 tahoe and it came with 8yrs of connectivity service - so a complete 180 by GM. Could see GM banking that providing the connectivity for free, owners will gradually start to lean towards not using carplay/android auto, because, well, the OEM system works...not the OEM interface worked for a few months and stopped when the trial ran out.

Yeah I know what you mean. But if its worth it people will pay. I for one love the connected features and really leverage the hot spot.

 

[Polo08816]

The issue isn't so much "what" infotainment system they are using, it's if the user is going to be forced to use the OEM system (by removing the carplay/android auto functionality), then there will be some type of service fee attached to it (internet capability).

Whereas the carplay/AA interface is "free" to use...and sure there are those that will say it's not free, by having to pay for your cell phone service, but if you aren't already paying for use of a smart phone, then this conversation isn't for the flip phone crowd.

The internet access that comes with GM vehicles has really fluctuated over the past few years. Go back a couple of years and GMC added $1500 to the price of their vehicles for 3yrs of service...a literal line item on the options on the window sticker, while Chevys were coming standard with 3 months of service, so the speed limit sign on the dash and the google interface were useless once the service ran out....

We just picked up a 2026 Z71 tahoe and it came with 8yrs of connectivity service - so a complete 180 by GM. Could see GM banking that providing the connectivity for free, owners will gradually start to lean towards not using carplay/android auto, because, well, the OEM system works...not the OEM interface worked for a few months and stopped when the trial ran out.

This.

Or GM can allow the car to tether off someone's cell phone and not need to force a subscription on folks. (But there's no $$$ in that.).

Yeah I know what you mean. But if its worth it people will pay. I for one love the connected features and really leverage the hot spot.

Maybe, but I think this question has been somewhat answered by GM already. They backed off the idea of removing CarPlay yet again because they don't want that decision to cause a significant shift in sales to their competitors.

 

[Doubeleive]

I very seriously doubt GM will or ever would be capable of providing something better, historically impossible
up until the last few years they have been a decade behind technology, on top of that they provide a couple years of updates then drop the product like a rock and leave the customer to figure out what to do next.

so, imagine gm programs a in house product, then 2-3 years later guess? you are s.o.l. when it is no longer compatible with anything else, they move on to the next platform, no map updates, no support.
you get to go kick rocks.....

 

[Stbentoak]

The issue isn't so much "what" infotainment system they are using, it's if the user is going to be forced to use the OEM system (by removing the carplay/android auto functionality), then there will be some type of service fee attached to it (internet capability).

Whereas the carplay/AA interface is "free" to use...and sure there are those that will say it's not free, by having to pay for your cell phone service, but if you aren't already paying for use of a smart phone, then this conversation isn't for the flip phone crowd.

The internet access that comes with GM vehicles has really fluctuated over the past few years. Go back a couple of years and GMC added $1500 to the price of their vehicles for 3yrs of service...a literal line item on the options on the window sticker, while Chevys were coming standard with 3 months of service, so the speed limit sign on the dash and the google interface were useless once the service ran out....

We just picked up a 2026 Z71 tahoe and it came with 8yrs of connectivity service - so a complete 180 by GM. Could see GM banking that providing the connectivity for free, owners will gradually start to lean towards not using carplay/android auto, because, well, the OEM system works...not the OEM interface worked for a few months and stopped when the trial ran out.

Well, the 8 years is just for basic connectivity so they can remind you to take your vehicle in for service. Blah blah blah. It's not what you think it is. Most of the features you get accustomed to will be turned off. Much sooner. With my Denali ultimate, I get three years of all the gravy. But after three years, no Internet. No Super Cruise. And no enhanced Onstar. That's when the real money comes in, after you're used to all the things you've had for those years.

 

[ducfan]

Well, the 8 years is just for basic connectivity so they can remind you to take your vehicle in for service. Blah blah blah. It's not what you think it is. Most of the features you get accustomed to will be turned off. Much sooner. With my Denali ultimate, I get three years of all the gravy. But after three years, no Internet. No Super Cruise. And no enhanced Onstar. That's when the real money comes in, after you're used to all the things you've had for those years.

I was planning to keep mine at least a decade, until I heard of the new LZ0 problems. Now my aversion to subscriptions takes a back seat to the potential time bomb under the hood.

 

[JTGZ71]

Although it's a minor point, another thing I like about CarPlay is the experience when I rent a vehicle that has CarPlay. I hop in, connect my iPhone and then I'm quickly up and running with a navi/infotainment interface that I like and I know how to use. I don't have to even bother learning the rental vehicle's native infotainment system for the most part, or check to see what connectivity it has.