Gzes
the drifting 2dr
WTF is twitter? Facebook? I dont Use that shit it's just spewing all your business to predators all over the place
New Onstar Agreement Update email
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StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
Anyone have an idea what a GM dealer charges to make the OnStar connection go ****!? That way I won't have to give any more thought about OnStar and its federal government spy partners infringing on my privacy rights.
OnStar is quickly becoming a name associated with what gets flushed down a toilet.
OnStar is quickly becoming a name associated with what gets flushed down a toilet.
domin8
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Dead gold fish???
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Gzes
the drifting 2dr
Don't you mean flushing ur kids goldfish down the toilet when u accidentally kill it by forgetting to feed it and then saying he grew feet and ran off
StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
"Hi! I'm from OnStar, and I'm here to help you."
Does that sound like Uncle Sam?
Does that sound like Uncle Sam?
Don't you mean flushing ur kids goldfish down the toilet when u accidentally kill it by forgetting to feed it and then saying he grew feet and ran off
If said goldfish was equipped with on star you would be able to locate it, turn its ignition off, and retrieve it.
StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
I wonder if OnStar has a contract with the government to supply direct feeds on all vehicle movements whenever a vehicle is purchased by anyone from a foreign country? Yeah, I bet OnStar does.
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Oh, come on, someone can beat my lame attempt to decipher what OnStar really stands for.
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Oh, come on, someone can beat my lame attempt to decipher what OnStar really stands for.
Kman
Full Access Member
Not sure if this article was posted in this thread yet. Wired Magazine talks all about the new policy. Pretty crazy.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/
Great blog post on the topic:
http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=1270
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/
Great blog post on the topic:
http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=1270
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mike1944
Full Access Member
This was posted over on the corvette forum. Adam Denison was the Onstar guy quoted in the above article.
StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
Appreciate the links, Kman.
I noticed someone posted on one of the links you provided that the blue OnStar light would go out once the "data connection" link is terminated. That is different information than I was told by OnStar on 09-19-11. We'll see what happens.
OnStar never provided me with an email update to their stated "right" to steal my personal information without my prior approval. Guess that's because I provided the jerks with a fake email address.
I do hope a class-action lawsuit is filed against OnStar.
I noticed someone posted on one of the links you provided that the blue OnStar light would go out once the "data connection" link is terminated. That is different information than I was told by OnStar on 09-19-11. We'll see what happens.
OnStar never provided me with an email update to their stated "right" to steal my personal information without my prior approval. Guess that's because I provided the jerks with a fake email address.
I do hope a class-action lawsuit is filed against OnStar.
phileaglesfan
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I started the thread on the Corvette Forum. I cancelled OnStar in all 3 of my cars.
Ok, they can track fuel ups (when, where), fuel economy, speed, location, other things that your car already tracks (engine rpm, braking, etc). I have a facebook but only so my family in the Philippines can stay in touch. I don't know about the rest of the garbage such as twitter.
Here is one thing I find interesting in the new Terms and Conditions. As an owner of my OnStar equipped Yukon, Onstar said I must notify people that my vehicle has onstar including passengers. Why and the heck should a passenger care?
I paid $149 a year per vehicle and received about $2-3 off per month per car for insurance. No more!
Before you start connecting crap from the OnStar remember that onstar can prevent your vehicle from starting and slow it down if it is within the last couple of years. That means onstar is wired into the car's ignition system somehow.
To me, OnStar just became useless. I'm having them deactivate it and I'm watching the lights to make sure they go off.
Of course if you are desperate enough to get onstar, onstar now sells OnStar in a box for "most" vehicles.
And I don't break laws but I don't need to be tracked or watched to make sure I don't break the laws.
Here is another interesting "article". http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/09/21/uh-oh-government-motors-wants-to-track-you/
Ok, they can track fuel ups (when, where), fuel economy, speed, location, other things that your car already tracks (engine rpm, braking, etc). I have a facebook but only so my family in the Philippines can stay in touch. I don't know about the rest of the garbage such as twitter.
Here is one thing I find interesting in the new Terms and Conditions. As an owner of my OnStar equipped Yukon, Onstar said I must notify people that my vehicle has onstar including passengers. Why and the heck should a passenger care?
I paid $149 a year per vehicle and received about $2-3 off per month per car for insurance. No more!
Before you start connecting crap from the OnStar remember that onstar can prevent your vehicle from starting and slow it down if it is within the last couple of years. That means onstar is wired into the car's ignition system somehow.
To me, OnStar just became useless. I'm having them deactivate it and I'm watching the lights to make sure they go off.
Of course if you are desperate enough to get onstar, onstar now sells OnStar in a box for "most" vehicles.
And I don't break laws but I don't need to be tracked or watched to make sure I don't break the laws.
Here is another interesting "article". http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/09/21/uh-oh-government-motors-wants-to-track-you/
StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
Interesting that the GM goons aren't providing information on how vehicle owners can disable the OnStar spy system, huh?
Maybe the ACLU will take an interest in this since it affects such a large group.
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Watch this OnStar Spy Agency employee's nose grow as she sprews forth numerous lies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eppUz5CJA_0
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Here's a story from TechCrunch.com:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/21/on...ervice-to-allow-for-tracking-without-consent/
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These OnStar Spy Agency articles are popping up all over the Internet fast:
http://www.examiner.com/evangelical-in-national/onstar-takes-up-partnership-with-big-brother
Maybe the ACLU will take an interest in this since it affects such a large group.
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Watch this OnStar Spy Agency employee's nose grow as she sprews forth numerous lies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eppUz5CJA_0
---------- Post added at 08:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 PM ----------
Here's a story from TechCrunch.com:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/21/on...ervice-to-allow-for-tracking-without-consent/
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These OnStar Spy Agency articles are popping up all over the Internet fast:
http://www.examiner.com/evangelical-in-national/onstar-takes-up-partnership-with-big-brother
Gzes
the drifting 2dr
So... Any o y'all want to sue onstar? Not me I do t even have one ( thank god )
Whether you read the new agreement or not, or whether you terminate your subscription or not, OnStar will continue to access your vehicle/data. It's in the agreement!
You can only terminate the connection, unplug power, or antennas.
This OnStar debacle was on the Drudgereport News Page it has 30 million viewers a day!
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Yeah whats up with notifying passengers, informed consent of some kind?
Whether you read the new agreement or not, or whether you terminate your subscription or not, OnStar will continue to access your vehicle/data. It's in the agreement!
You can only terminate the connection, unplug power, or antennas.
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Adam seems to be a PR guy, not very good with intelligent/logical discussion, on forums.
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GM Goons?
OnStar owned by GM owned by UAW owned by Democrat party owned by (?).
I see this Chicago style crony payback, next every road vehicle will be mandated to have a VCIM, made by? The gov't party owned, you guess it, OnStar!
ACLU? Too liberal to take on the dem's.
You can only terminate the connection, unplug power, or antennas.
This OnStar debacle was on the Drudgereport News Page it has 30 million viewers a day!
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Yeah whats up with notifying passengers, informed consent of some kind?
Whether you read the new agreement or not, or whether you terminate your subscription or not, OnStar will continue to access your vehicle/data. It's in the agreement!
You can only terminate the connection, unplug power, or antennas.
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Adam seems to be a PR guy, not very good with intelligent/logical discussion, on forums.
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GM Goons?
OnStar owned by GM owned by UAW owned by Democrat party owned by (?).
I see this Chicago style crony payback, next every road vehicle will be mandated to have a VCIM, made by? The gov't party owned, you guess it, OnStar!
ACLU? Too liberal to take on the dem's.
StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
Maybe the OnStar Spy Agency and its GM goons will get to visit the Senate to answer for its theft of personal information: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64190.html
Get 'em! and get 'em good!
Get 'em! and get 'em good!
phileaglesfan
Full Access Member
Watch out, eventually this crap will become mandatory in new vehicles. OBD III is supposed to be able to send an alarm if your emissions are not in specs. It wouldn't be hard to do with onstar right now especially since they share info with the DMV.
Guess I might as well start looking for that old Bronco or Scout afterall and retrofitting it with all the latest stuff I can get. Perhaps we'll all have to go back to building our own cars if we don't want to be on the grid or under constant monitoring. Haha, we'll even have to take the battery our of our cell phones when we travel or leave them at home. I forgot what it was like to drive 200+ miles or even to the store without my cell phone.
StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
OnStar Spy Agency's new charter:
"Our primary goals are to help governmental agencies spy on you, help advertisers sell to you, and help insurance companies, cities, counties, states, and Uncle Sam stick it to you. Our secondary goal is to have someone help you if you pay us a fee and we can spare one of our employees from their primary goals as stated previously."
"Our primary goals are to help governmental agencies spy on you, help advertisers sell to you, and help insurance companies, cities, counties, states, and Uncle Sam stick it to you. Our secondary goal is to have someone help you if you pay us a fee and we can spare one of our employees from their primary goals as stated previously."
StevenFromTexas
Mr. Negative
Another link in an ever-expanding explosion of OnStar Spy Agency articles:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/onstar-plans-to-track-users-even-after-disconnecting-service/
The OnStar Spy Agency creeps keep chasing down reports all over the Internet trying to cover their dirty tracks. These purveyors are no different than window peepers, and the corporate goons running OnStar belong in jail. Here's a quote from the link above:
"OnStar records the speed, location and direction of drivers via GPS during an accident as well as if the driver and other passengers were wearing a seat belt. OnStar plans on supplying this information to police officers, when requested, as well as insurance companies who are seeking facts about any accident involving an OnStar vehicle."
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/onstar-plans-to-track-users-even-after-disconnecting-service/
The OnStar Spy Agency creeps keep chasing down reports all over the Internet trying to cover their dirty tracks. These purveyors are no different than window peepers, and the corporate goons running OnStar belong in jail. Here's a quote from the link above:
"OnStar records the speed, location and direction of drivers via GPS during an accident as well as if the driver and other passengers were wearing a seat belt. OnStar plans on supplying this information to police officers, when requested, as well as insurance companies who are seeking facts about any accident involving an OnStar vehicle."
