MSD coil! 8226

[AtomicHoe094]

Hey buds, well i just bought a MSD coil 8226 for all you TBI 'ers out there..
bought it from someone on ebay named kiki-stuff. 40 bucks shipped to my house and it said 6 bucks shipping on it.. so i technically got it for 34 bucks, brand new, newest edition out from MSD..
id check her out and see if she has any other ones. I saw she had one and it sold for 50 bucks, i PMed her and told her id give her 40 right now and for some reason she took it.. not sure if she has more.. but i got a damn good deal outta it.. I installed it today, no pics.. figured everyone knew how to install one and drill out some rivets to use the factory mounting kit.
I figured it one more MSD ignition product for cheap down to the list.. if you want pics i can get some, but figured everyone knew how to do it :Handshake:



Check her name out for sure or something.. cheap nice mod that will help out your hoes

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Rest of the MSD ignition shit for you guys..

ignition box- 6al 6420
distributor - 8366
wires- 31419
plug and play harness from coil to 6al- 8876
coil- 8226

[haks310]

How do you like it so far? I dropped mine in today but 'Hoe still not ready to go. Oh, I might have an extra pair of MSD wires for sale, I will let you know by next week hopefully.

[AtomicHoe094]

How do you like it so far? I dropped mine in today but 'Hoe still not ready to go. Oh, I might have an extra pair of MSD wires for sale, I will let you know by next week hopefully.

that would be nice!:Handshake: umm well i thought it would cut some time off the cranking, but not as much as id like. But my truck did sit outside for 2 days without being moved or ran so idk if thats what the problem was. Kinda a pain to install. Was yours like that? did you have to use those 2 aluminum bracket things they gave you?

[haks310]

Yeah, did not think it would make much of a difference without being paired with a tune up. I thought it was pretty simple, honestly I did not even read the instructuons.

[AtomicHoe094]

i didnt either, but it was hard to get the 1st bolt in because of the MSD screw, i had to grind it down, i kept dropping the bolt bcuz my truck was in the driveway on a pretty good slope and the bolt kept rolling away and i lost it twice.. but found it obviously :)

I just did a tune up last year, but i think those wires and plugs are garbage.. bosch?? my dad said bosch isnt really a good brand, i thought it was hence why i got em. but I think im going to follow Falconforvers E3 plugs. itll cost me a bit, but im hoping it will really cut down the crank time.. :)

Did you put in your coil when you had the new intake out of your truck or while the intake was bolted down? lets see this damn thing!

[haks310]

LMAO

Bosch is a good respected brand. From what i have read the TBIs do not like the spark plugs though. I am going with AC Delco Platinums, I was thinking of going with the E3s but have not heard many guys running them on TBIs and the fact that MSD recommended just going with AC Delco.

Put it in while the intake was bolted down. Today I am going to hook up the TBI, vacuum lines and the fuel lines. And hopefully tomorrow I will get the spark plug and wires in and get the timing down to get this thing finally running.

[AtomicHoe094]

well i know its a "better" brand then a lot. but idfk. lol.. damn spark plug shit. well ill let you test the E3s and then well see.. haha

[haks310]

LoL you can test the E3s, I will test the AC Delco Platinum's

[AtomicHoe094]

No F you! haha ill donate 5 bucks to you.. thats one spark plug, you have 7 more to go lol.. then you can tell me how they are.

[haks310]

LoL I have two brand new spark plug sets....Bosch Platinum2 and these AC Delco Platinum's

[AtomicHoe094]

so send me one my way and ill tell you how they are.. haha shit does this mean i have to try the E3s? damnit.. hahah

[haks310]

Yes it does haha

Well this is where it sits as of tonight, and a pic of the wires:

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn136/richaks310/GetAttachment.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn136/richaks310/GetAttachment2.jpg

[AtomicHoe094]

you put in a fuel pressure gauge? how do you maybe have an extra set of wires btw? looks good!

quick question. what is that connector to the left of your distributor cap? about an inch away??

[foreverfalcon40]

BAHH FUK BOSCH!

GM recommends AC Delco's! So throw those in if your not going E3's. I have a newwer model and E3's were night and day difference cranking wise.

I also added a MSD 6al box after I threw in E3's. Cranking time remained the same.,m.

[haks310]

Yeah and a fuel pressure regulator. That connector is.....I have no clue what it is for lol

I had set on order from SummitRacing but they were not get here soon enough so I just went and picked some up at Kragen.


LoL the only reason I bought the Bosch plugs was because they are a bit shorter than other plugs and I will be installing shorty headers.....but then I found TBIs do not like Bosch plugs lol

[AtomicHoe094]

i mean give them a try and see for yourself

[haks310]

I probably will once I get the headers installed, I will see.

[haks310]

So it is up and running. Love it. Crank time is still there but it starts up strong. You gotta get that Dyna-Mod Ignition module, don't know if you read the link I had posted a while back or not. Thing just keeps going and going. Only thing I miss right now is the throttle body spacer...it takes more effort to get it going than it did with the throttle body spacer, noticed it right away. haha but once it gets going it gets going!

[AtomicHoe094]

what plugs did you use?? all the bolts were okay too? lol good shit, glad to hear it wokred out!

[haks310]

The AC Delcos.

LoL I think I got one of the bolts in the wrong spot but it wasn't a big deal.

[AtomicHoe094]

i gotcha.. if anyone wants to join the MSD group here ya goo
The coil
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220458168774&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
The 6A or AL wiring harness
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220458178180&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Same guy, make him an offer for both with shipping. he told me 65 bucks with free shipping, but try 55 or something..

[yukonaetahoe]

im reading through your postings and i noticed hte lakc of crank on startup, i have a 95 yuko with tbi and i also have that, i even had to change my auto start on my alarm system to past 2 seconds. im a little confused on all the upgrades mentioned above..... im barely trying to learn about engines or atleast mine. any help would be appreciated.

[AtomicHoe094]

Cranking is the time prior to startup, having that time before startup can be ignition issue or fuel or etc.. Upgrading and doing tuneups can help you crank time..

Your remote start shouldnt have anything to do with the cranking time..

[haks310]

He had to set up his remote start so it would actually start the engine. Hence the "past 2 seconds" due to the cranck time.

I am on my phone so cant give you some links where you can read up on TBIs. Go to tbichips.com and read through his TBI Mods page though that would be a good place to start.

[AtomicHoe094]

im reading through your postings and i noticed hte lakc of crank on startup, i have a 95 yuko with tbi and i also have that, i even had to change my auto start on my alarm system to past 2 seconds. im a little confused on all the upgrades mentioned above..... im barely trying to learn about engines or atleast mine. any help would be appreciated.

this is for TBI trucks.. so year 95 only.. youll have to select vortecs if yours is a 96 or above..
http://www.tbichips.com/truckmods.htm

[yukonaetahoe]

i do keep up with my reg tuneups, i use mobil1 synthetic. I have an msd coil also use msd wires with discap n rotor from msd and use acdelco platinum plugs. but even before i put those things in it was the same 2 second laggin time. It never got worse or better, im assuming its something with fuel because when i do my remote start in the morning and it is very cold outside for some reason even with the 2 second crank it wont turn on, so i turn off the remote start then walk to my truck and put the key in and as soon as i turn the key VROOM cranks up in a mili second. so i figure that crankin must move the fuel on up the lines too were its just at the door step. but ofcourse im nothing close to a mechanic so im just taking a wild guess. i have been thinking of getting thet msd 6al box wondering if it would work, but i will research that site and see if i can understand anything (my engine lingo isnt up to par). i really appreciate you guys taking the time to reply aswell as give advice. thank you.

[AtomicHoe094]

Could be a fuel issue as well. Do you have an aftermarket intake setup or filter dirty? Have you replaced your fuel filter recently as well?? check those out and see what happens. What year is your truck? A guy on here named FalconForever uses E3 plugs and say they work very very well on his vortec motor.... if you get time, check out those prices :) haha he said around 50bucks for all 8.

[haks310]

Cranck time on TBIs will be normal, has to do how fuel is delievered to the engine. I just finished doing a tune up, upgrading to a MSD Ignition sytem, Dyna-Mod ignition module and AC Delco Platinum plugs. Also installed a brand new injector assembly so I know both the injectors are pushing 12psi. Fuel filter and pump have been replaced a few thousand miles ago and I still get a 1 second cranck time LoL

I wouldn't bother with the 6AL box, you will only really notice it on heavily moddified engines. What route are you trying to go with your engine/Yukon?

[yukonaetahoe]

Could be a fuel issue as well. Do you have an aftermarket intake setup or filter dirty? Have you replaced your fuel filter recently as well?? check those out and see what happens. What year is your truck? A guy on here named FalconForever uses E3 plugs and say they work very very well on his vortec motor.... if you get time, check out those prices :) haha he said around 50bucks for all 8.


i have a 1995, i have a K&N air filter with the chrome cover, i keep it clean and all my tune up stuff is alwaysup to date other then the msd stuff mentioned before nothing else is new. i dont have vortec.

Cranck time on TBIs will be normal, has to do how fuel is delievered to the engine. I just finished doing a tune up, upgrading to a MSD Ignition sytem, Dyna-Mod ignition module and AC Delco Platinum plugs. Also installed a brand new injector assembly so I know both the injectors are pushing 12psi. Fuel filter and pump have been replaced a few thousand miles ago and I still get a 1 second cranck time LoL

I wouldn't bother with the 6AL box, you will only really notice it on heavily moddified engines. What route are you trying to go with your engine/Yukon?

how much the msd ignition system cost you? and what does it consist of? also the injector assembly. i always change the fuel filter and i pump 91 idk if that even matters??? id like to ask that.... do type of gas matter? am i just wasting money? i also use full synthetic, i dont have much performance stuff if any so also do you guys think im just wasting money by doing these two things?
id love to get my crank time down to 1 second. ive hurd normal is 1.4 sec well atleast thats what the auto start comes programmed as.

[AtomicHoe094]

Theres a couple components for the MSD ignition like stated before. Those numbers are the part number... and est price
ignition box- 6al 6420 between 150 and 200 bucks
distributor - 8366 around 250 to 300
wires- 31419 90 bucks
plug and play harness from coil to 6al- 8876 20-40 bucks
coil- 8226 30 to 45 bucks

I bought all my stuff on ebay and got some good deals. I dont believe MSD sells just a cap and rotor, i dont even know if they make them for out stock distributor.. but thats a couple things up there.. MSD doesnt make plugs obviously..

You can get electric fans to help mpgs, throttle response, colder AC and much much more...

[yukonaetahoe]

Theres a couple components for the MSD ignition like stated before. Those numbers are the part number... and est

You can get electric fans to help mpgs, throttle response, colder AC and much much more...

what about throttle body spacers? are those any help? and is that something that can be done without any other upgrades? like i can just plau n play or would i have to do further upgrading for it to help?

[AtomicHoe094]

Ive never used a tb spacer, i heard ups and downs about them.

The ignition stuff is all plug and play DIY

the fans are not unless you have a new tahoe/yukon. You can buy kits for these trucks but require some wiring and such..

[haks310]

Well where are you trying to go with your engine? Looks like your in the same boat as me, I am keeping mine pretty much stock and just keeping it in its best running shape.

My MSD Ignition consists of a MSD dizzy, and yes they do sell cap and rotors for our dizzys), MSD Ignition coil and MSD 8.5 wires. The 6AL ox is a waste unless you will be doing a heavily modified engine. Also running a Dyna-Mod Ignition module, stock one is crap depending on what model if you have.
Read here, post #7 onward:
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forums/general-discussion/performance/tbi-tuning-87-95-obd-i-ecm-pcm/348669-ignition-upgrade.html

Pump 87, you wont see ant or much of a benefit from running higher, these engines were designed to run on 87. I know some guys who have modified engines along with a tune and they do require the need of quality petro. I am also using Mobil 1 Synthetic, 5W30 along with a Mobil 1 filter and change it out every 4000K.

I Love my TB and injector spacers, installed these two together and noticed the increased throttle response right away. Both are easy installs. I would go ahead and do the "ultimate tbi mods" while you are installing these.
http://tbichips.com/ultimateMODS.htm

The fuel injectors are suppose to run around 12psi for optimum performance. But it is known the from the factory psi varied from 9-12psi, Easy way to correct this is to install a fuel pressure regulator and a gauge to monitor it I purchased a new injector assembly with injectors because mine were not looking to hot. With these new ones I have nice cone shape spray and I know the engine is getting enough fuel.

Next step after this for me, new exhaust system. Edelbrock TES headers and y pipe, Magnaflow cat and muffler. After that, electric fans and water pump and I am done.

[AtomicHoe094]

Hey haks, whered you get this 'Dyna-Mod Ignition module" at and how much? i was reading some of that post on FSC, pretty interested crap~!

nevermind. i found it, 8 pin
http://www.performancedistributors.com/modules.htm

Did you notice anything on this bitch?> did you buy yours brand new from this place? i want one, i seem convinced lol!

[haks310]

Bought it brand new from there.

Engine pulls way more! Torque curve is much better at mid to higher RPMs

[AtomicHoe094]

That's sweet. Worth the 65 bucks?? Hmmm you just gave me a new item to buy : ) the cold air intake deff added some, I'm hoping that would make it pull more on the freeway. Lol

[haks310]

Definitely.

I PMed, Volant1 a lil while ago about the CAI so hopefully I get response soon and get the ball rolling on that.

[AtomicHoe094]

That's cool. I bought mine used and got all new parts for it from him. Saved me over 200 bucks.. I'm going to being buying another volant and for brothers silverado for a bday present bcuz I was pretty impressed and he just has an exhaust on his truck now. It'll help him out more.

But I've been getting more involved in the motor lately. My interior will be done next year in school and the outside is already done with so that's good. I've seen those 8pins beofre, but never like thought it could give a good torque gain ya know. If I get some extra cash, ill dump one asap for that dyna..

[DJTricky]

i like my msd system. I have coil. 8.5 wires. Billet aluminum distributor. And i love them. I want to pick up the control box but ran out of money with my engine build. :( lol . But i to am running the e3s.

[yukonaetahoe]

i need to check this more often, i feel like i just missed out on hella information lol thanks guys, and for haks310 i am also just looking to leave it stock but do as much small upgrades i can to keep it running strong and clean.
maybe years from now i will drop a 454. maybe.

[haks310]

Then I'd recommend just looking at the things I mentioned earlier. I will be dropping a different engine in down the road also. Just keeping in tip top shape until I have the funds for the swap.