Our trucks VS Toyota Sequoia???

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Curious how we hold up against Toyota's reputation for quality and reliability? Saw a recent post from some0ne who said their Sequoia was marginally better.

Wife likes the Sequoia, but I personally don't like the hybrid crap or the battery, extra things to break, etc. (I've owned Toyotas but never past 80k miles, so not a real test for quality)

Not knocking GM, just wondering - the internet and public perception is Toyotas are bulletproof, but I've seen some crazy mileage on Tahoe's and Silverado's , so let's hear it!

Are Toyota's better, or is that all a matter of perspective/opinion?
 

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There was a car reliability rating in the USA, and there Tahoe and Yukon took some of the top lines in terms of reliability. At the same time, the hybrid installation on Toyota has already been tested for more than one decade on the Prius, Lexus RX, a friend of mine has already driven 250 thousand km on the RX hybrid. and is not going to change it, having a fuel consumption of 10-11 liters per 100 km in the urban cycle. But my personal opinion is that Sequoia and GM are slightly different philosophies, these are slightly different consumers. And they don't really overlap with each other.
 

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...the internet and public perception is Toyotas are bulletproof,
They're not. They used to eat ball joints for breakfast and have other issues with their brakes and motors. I noticed their low payload ratings and they got worse gas mileage than GM trucks.

My SIL was driving a Prius until it needed a new main battery. She dumped it for a conventional RAV4.
 

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Yea, two different vehicles completely. Plus, the hybrids are a different animal if do have to get to a garage. Lots of shops cannot diagnose correctly and so the vehicle owner heads to the dealer where they think the dealer techs are better and sometimes, those techs use a parts cannon on the vehicles too.
 
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I've often wondered if Toyota was considered more reliable simply because they are so slow to update - thoughts?

Seems like the easy was to keep reliability is to just keep what works, but I prefer some updates, hence my Tahoe - old Sequoia looked outdated as hell when I was looking.
 

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I've often wondered if Toyota was considered more reliable simply because they are so slow to update - thoughts?

Seems like the easy was to keep reliability is to just keep what works, but I prefer some updates, hence my Tahoe - old Sequoia looked outdated as hell when I was looking.
They are riding the wave of the misconception that they have better cars than the competition; so they didn't have to compete until sales started to slip.

If we look to history, especially with GM, it takes 3-4 years for a new design to become mature and the bugs ironed out. Generally speaking of course.
 

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Toyota puts out great products. My first car was my moms 1999 Camry XLE that she kept even after buying a big 4x4 after moving to the mountains, specifically so I could drive it when the time came. Not sure what particular engine it had but I know it was a 6 cylinder mated with a 5 speed manual trans. Learned to drive in the snow in a front wheel drive manual trans sedan. Those were some wild rides lol. But I can do it with confiedence should I ever need to, and that camry never let us down. That being said I see drawbacks in the way toyota designs their vehicles.

So before I bought my 2006 Denali, I was dead set on buying a 4x4 limited trim sequoia in the year range of 2003-2007 as that was the body style I wanted. On the 4.7 V8s that those came with the starter is buried under the intake manifold. To replace it the entire top of the engine basically has to be taken apart. On top of that you may as well throw in a new timing chain since you’re gonna be in that exact area taking everything apart. There’s one other major component there as well that should just get replaced if the mileage is high and I can’t remember now what that was. It’s close to 1,500 dollars in parts and labor if the starter goes out. Now replacing the timing chain isn’t a must when doing a starter but why pay the mechanic twice to do the exact same labor two separate times. Every sequoia I looked at to potentially buy had starter issues and I had no desire to deal with that right off the bat in ownership of one. Plus I couldn’t find one trimmed the way I wanted. All my experience as a detailer has made me absolutely despise cloth interiors. I’ll never own cloth ever again. Either I found a cloth interior SR5 trimmed 4x4 or a leather interior limited trimmed 2 wheel drive sequoia. 4x4 is non negotiable for me since I live in a ski town but I wasn’t willing to go back to cloth seats so I had to give up the search for a sequoia. I was disappointed but after buying my Yukon I’d do it again in a heartbeat. My factory starter in the Yukon died in the back parking lot of our local DIY car wash one evening after a quick post snow bath. I walked over to the NAPA parts store that’s literally across the street from the car wash, bought a starter and with basic hand tools that I had in the truck, I had the starter replaced in under an hour in fading daylight. Because on GM vehicles most major components are stupidly easy to access. I think at least with the older generations of GM, they’re designed with the DIY mechanic in mind. It’s just easier to work on. I can’t speak to the difficulty level of working on modern Toyotas or GM for that matter since I don’t own either but from 8 1/2 years of owning a an older GM all my DIY mechanic experience has been from my Yukon simply because it’s so easy to work on. And I’m confident enough now because of that fact to tackle even big repairs and maintenance items myself.

On another note, in twelve years of detailing I’ve only had a very small handful of clients with full size Toyotas. A client a few years ago had a 2013 tundra, and since the exact month I bought my Yukon, I’ve had a client with a 2004 4x4 limited trim sequoia. Literally spec’d exactly how I’d wanted one. I was a lil salty when I first showed up to that clients house and saw the exact type of sequoia I’d wanted sitting in the driveway like two weeks after buying my Denali haha. Anyways while many full size toyotas are on the road around me, most of the mountain folk won’t touch them and the majority of full size pickups and SUVs and that we drive are either GM or ford. Lots of clients with small Toyotas like Ravs, Camrys, my sister in law has one, a 2018 I believe. And lots of clients with Tacomas and forerunners. The big Toyota stuff just isn’t as popular in my region. But then again we are a weird A-S-S breed of mountain folk lol.
 

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I considered a Sequoia before my Tahoe. Saw there have been some oil leak issues with the 5.7. Then I looked at the mpg ratings and never looked back, lol. Of course, those were like 2014-16 era. The newer ones are much better. But they are solid overall.
 
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The 5.3 has some crazy high mileage examples out there

If I can get to 250k to 300k easy miles, that's my goal.

Toyota just seems to have an excessively long update schedule, and GM looks easier to work on based on the replies..

(My current Tahoe is being babied, one day I want to be the old guy on the block that all the kids ask if they can buy his "classic Tahoe 4x4)
 

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Curious how we hold up against Toyota's reputation for quality and reliability? Saw a recent post from some0ne who said their Sequoia was marginally better.

Wife likes the Sequoia, but I personally don't like the hybrid crap or the battery, extra things to break, etc. (I've owned Toyotas but never past 80k miles, so not a real test for quality)

Not knocking GM, just wondering - the internet and public perception is Toyotas are bulletproof, but I've seen some crazy mileage on Tahoe's and Silverado's , so let's hear it!

Are Toyota's better, or is that all a matter of perspective/opinion?
I have owned many Suburbans, and Tahoes and a Sequoias as well. I find the NON-hybrid Sequoia to be vastly superior. That would limit you to a 2022 or earlier. Sequoia's do NOT have Forced Lighting (Daytime Running Lights that you cannot turn off). Sequoia also does not have engine stop-start technology. (Easy to permanently defeat on GM products.) You can depend on a Sequoia to go 300K miles minimum. I switched over from Sequoia to Tahoe because I did not want hybrid. If you get a hybrid vehicle plan on replacing the battery at 4 to 7 years. General Motors goes to extreme measures for maximum gas mileage. Toyota goes to extreme measures for reliability.
 

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