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Blkout02
06-09-2009, 10:31 AM
What do you guys use to shine your platic on bumpers and mirrors and keep them from fading
Black_Rain
06-09-2009, 10:33 AM
I use this stuff, Forever Black, It does a very good job. I've used it on Jeep plastic fenders.
http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/classic-motoring_2054_7702823
3blackchevys
06-09-2009, 10:36 AM
mothers back to black..it's ok
road1will
06-09-2009, 10:43 AM
mothers back to black is what ive usually used and its pretty good. i just ordered some poor boys trim restorer so i'll try that next
nc6600
06-09-2009, 11:32 AM
mothers back to black is what ive usually used and its pretty good. i just ordered some poor boys trim restorer so i'll try that nextyou'll like it.
blueflamed03
06-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Mothers Back to Black.
thumper_ehhhhh
06-09-2009, 12:54 PM
For plastic like bumpers i use armor all. Works for me.
road1will
06-10-2009, 04:34 PM
For plastic like bumpers i use armor all. Works for me.
ehhh i hate armorall
3blackchevys
06-10-2009, 04:41 PM
i got an armor-all complete detail kit from my aunt and uncle this past christmas...i put on my best fake smile and said thanks
Sepiroth
06-10-2009, 04:47 PM
LOL, I remember back when Amor-All was the shit.
jomulk56
06-11-2009, 12:06 AM
I use Meguiars hyperdressing for now. I've been looking at black wow.
JKmotorsports
06-11-2009, 12:13 AM
My brother rolled up in his HD Silvy the other day after just detailing his truck. He mentioned he used Turtle Wax's ICE on all the plastic trim, so I went to take a look. Damn, I was amazed at the difference. It looked like he replaced the bumper caps and most of the plastic trim with new pieces. I stopped by his house a couple days later and noticed it was still looking as good as it did the day he detailed it.
thumper_ehhhhh
06-11-2009, 12:17 AM
Hey armor all is cheap and it works.
road1will
06-11-2009, 07:46 AM
I guess that depends on your definition of works )
nc6600
06-11-2009, 09:03 AM
I don't like armor all everything sticks to it and makes it look worse than before. Try Adams VRT instead.
thumper_ehhhhh
06-11-2009, 09:14 AM
Well it's black and shinny. I apply 1 coat and it stays that way for a long time. Look below see shinny and black. Hate to tell you something just because YOU think something is better doesn't make it better and bashing me for keeping to the basics is getting pretty fucking tiring. I dont bash you guys for spending 2 to 3 times what I do to get the same job done. They all look great be happy. In 30 mins I can go from a dirty truck to looking like this. Wash, dry, clean, windows, tire dressing and yes armor all.
what needs to be black is black and clean
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/Thumper_ehhhhh/Plateblur3.jpg
again what needs to be black is black
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/Thumper_ehhhhh/Picture049.jpg
blueflamed03
06-11-2009, 09:51 AM
looks good thumper, heck i use Armor All on interior, etc....love the stuff.
road1will
06-11-2009, 09:56 AM
Yeah that shiny greasy mess looks like shit. If you want your trim to be greasy as hell and attract dirt and dust like no other, armor all is great. If you want your trim to look like it did from the factory (clean, black, with a little shine) then some of the products we are reccomending are what you would need.
nc6600
06-11-2009, 10:02 AM
looks good thumper, heck i use Armor All on interior, etc....love the stuff.Good god i hope your joking.:shocked:
road1will
06-11-2009, 10:53 AM
Good god i hope your joking.:shocked:
I think he has to be.
blueflamed03
06-11-2009, 11:16 AM
no, I'm not. Not ALL the interior, I use Mequires leather for the leather seats, but Armor All does have it's place on my detail shelf.
OKLAGMCRUISER
06-11-2009, 11:38 AM
creamy peanut butter works even better than mother's back to black.
SERIOUSLY....just work it in with your fingers and wipe it off with a towel. the oil from the peanut butter penetrates into the plastic very well. this method even removes wax residue. I didn't believe this method when I first heard it, but tried it on my wife's malibu to remove the white wax from the black plastic and it looks like it is brand new...did the treatment over a year ago and the plastics look great after every wash.
Pat
blueflamed03
06-11-2009, 01:39 PM
wow...now that's one I've never heard...may try that....
thumper_ehhhhh
06-11-2009, 01:59 PM
Hey Im not wanting to get ton a big argument with you guys. Not all of us have disposable incomes here as i'm sure some here do. I have found stuff that works for me. Keeps my truck lookin good. IMO.
Heres a little background info.
I'm turning 40 this year. We have a roof over our head. 2 kids, wife, father inlaw, 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a 23 year old nephew which pays next to nothing torwards anything but hes family so I let it be. My wife and I are the only ones bringing in money. Then theres kids sports, music lessons, swim lessons. Yes I would love to have the best of the best. I cant afford it. So over the many years I have found products that work for me. Armor all is one of them. It may not be the best but when you have to clean and keep care of 4 cars and a RV you take what works and what works cheap. Nephew does his own struff to his car. SO price starts to matter. Hey I would love to also have snap-ons or mac tools too but I am happy with my mastercraft and craftsman tools they also do the jobs I need. Then there is a little thing called fuel. Right now we are paying just over $4 a us gallon in USD. Ya know it all adds up. It's the price I pay for having my toy. So please before you start bashing people and the things they use just try and think maybe just maybe they dont have it as easy as I do. Dont just spout off thats shit use this. Your oppinion does matter if asked. To the OP of this thread sorry for letting it go way off. Have a great day all.
blueflamed03
06-11-2009, 02:03 PM
it's all good Trev, no worries on this end man, trust me, I FEEL your pain! Use what you like, and works for you, that's all the matters :D
thumper_ehhhhh
06-11-2009, 02:05 PM
I propose this. There should be another thread for what people use to detail with. List the product then what they apply it to. No bad comments or bashing from others. More of a fact finding thread. If you dont like a product someone else uses to bad keep your comments to yourself. This way we can all see what everyone uses without fear of being bashed. I have seen pictures of what people drive so if I see a shine in pitucular that I like when I get a few extra bucks and can get it up here in canada I might be willing to try it that product. Just a thought.
withac
06-11-2009, 02:12 PM
Seems to be a lot o' hatin' over something as insignificant at detailing your ride. I have a jug of Armour all that my wife bought years ago because it was cheap and then that's all anyone used. I don't use it on my tires anymore but it still blacks up the trim nicely. If you buff it off it doesn't leave things greasy. If you have a greasy film you used too much, simply wipe it off. It might shine a little but if a person is okay with that what's the problem? I have heard good things about the Back to Black and would like to give it a try some day
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I propose this. There should be another thread for what people use to detail with. List the product then what they apply it to. No bad comments or bashing from others. More of a fact finding thread. If you dont like a product someone else uses to bad keep your comments to yourself. This way we can all see what everyone uses without fear of being bashed. I have seen pictures of what people drive so if I see a shine in pitucular that I like when I get a few extra bucks and can get it up here in canada I might be willing to try it that product. Just a thought.
Not a bad idea, however I do think feedback as long as it's kept neutral helps. Simply a + or - if you do or don't like a product. that way if there is a trend you can start to see it.
3blackchevys
06-11-2009, 02:16 PM
personal preference..that's all
i just like the look and end result that i achieve using other products
OKLAGMCRUISER
06-11-2009, 02:16 PM
trev good idea...my .02 about armor all and stp protectant for that matter tend to over time if not continually applied to turn the black plastic white in spots therefore needing another application. For the most part after a pb treatment a wet chamois will work and the black stays black:read:
nc6600
06-11-2009, 02:23 PM
I propose this. There should be another thread for what people use to detail with. List the product then what they apply it to. No bad comments or bashing from others. More of a fact finding thread. If you dont like a product someone else uses to bad keep your comments to yourself. This way we can all see what everyone uses without fear of being bashed. I have seen pictures of what people drive so if I see a shine in pitucular that I like when I get a few extra bucks and can get it up here in canada I might be willing to try it that product. Just a thought.Taken care of.:happy160:
withac
06-11-2009, 02:25 PM
http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1576
tast101
06-11-2009, 02:28 PM
Back to black is what I use, when I go all out, I'll rub it inside the wheel well on the plastic too.
OKLAGMCRUISER
06-11-2009, 02:41 PM
Back to black is what I use, when I go all out, I'll rub it inside the wheel well on the plastic too.
i used to do that too, but now i just spray tire dressing on the wheel wells...lol
jmildoc
06-13-2009, 07:51 PM
i think whatever you want to use on your car is just that its your damn car....
Me i like to be able to go to the store and pick up more of whatever I run out of instead of ordering online..
I pay a little more for the stuff I like but I use Meguiars on just about everything I can.
road1will
06-13-2009, 09:15 PM
If you like hte look/feel of armor all, then by all means go for it.
The REAL problem with armor all isnt so much while you use it, its what happens when you stop using it.
thumper_ehhhhh
06-14-2009, 11:39 AM
If you like hte look/feel of armor all, then by all means go for it.
The REAL problem with armor all isnt so much while you use it, its what happens when you stop using it.
I've been doing some research on it and found out it actually dries the plastic and could cause it to crack. I'm thinking of tring something new. I will just have to see what we can get up here at Canadian Tire. Oh and never liked the feel of it but then again I dont go feeling my cars ar trucks after I clean them lol. I do like the shine though.
withac
06-14-2009, 06:56 PM
I've been doing some research on it and found out it actually dries the plastic and could cause it to crack. I'm thinking of tring something new. I will just have to see what we can get up here at Canadian Tire. Oh and never liked the feel of it but then again I dont go feeling my cars ar trucks after I clean them lol. I do like the shine though.
I'd heard that it clogged the pores so it couldn't breath, but whatever the mechanism, I'd heard the same thing, once you start using it you have to keep using it.
KMeloney
07-01-2009, 02:42 PM
I've been doing some research on it and found out it actually dries the plastic and could cause it to crack. I'm thinking of tring something new. I will just have to see what we can get up here at Canadian Tire. Oh and never liked the feel of it but then again I dont go feeling my cars ar trucks after I clean them lol. I do like the shine though.
I have to chime in here. Thumper, I'm glad you've determined this about AA on your own, because it IS terrible stuff.
Sure, anyone can use whatever he likes on his vehicle. Hell, you can you a belt sander for all I care. That's personal preference. What ISN'T personal preference is stating as fact that AA is good, because it's not.
I have a Jeep Wrangler (along with the Tahoe), and spent a few years in a Jeep club when I had the time. You could always tell (and then CONFIRM with the person by talking to him) when someone used AA on his fender flares. They'd be a faded, milky blue/gray color. Completely destroyed. And NOTHING (short of paint) could bring them back. Incidentally, I mistakenly used some on my plastic license plate holder on the Jeep. It's a mess because of it.
My father just had his truck "detailed," and you can see on the plastic mirrors where the detailer used AA. It looks like they used wax on the mirrors. Terrible.
I don't know where economics came into play in this thread, but it has nothing (or very little) to do with it. I use Lemon Pledge on all of my black plastic parts (including my Wrangler's flares, which look brand new still, 12 years later). (I usually don't let people in on the Pledge thing because 1) they tend to not believe that it works, and 2) I don't want their cars looking better than mine. LOL) I bet you have some laying around your house.
Like Ford vs Chevy debates, there will always be debates over Adams vs. Zaino and the like. But those debates tend to be over the preference between established, good products. AA is NOT a good product. It's a downright bad product that is marketed heavily. People use it a few times and see that it does what it's supposed to -- but, over time, it takes its toll.
So, whereas people probably could have been more gentle in telling you that you're crazy for using AA, the point remains the same: you're crazy for using AA. ;)
thumper_ehhhhh
07-01-2009, 07:45 PM
Hey I dont even mind if people say something I use sucks as long as they explain why it sucks. Not it sucks use this. That will get my back up every time.
withac
07-01-2009, 08:55 PM
I just tried the Lemon Pledge on my '98 Ram. The bumper was new last spring so the bumper cover looked ok, but it looks brand new now. The mirrors were fairly milky from being old, and yes, prolly from AA. I worked them over pretty good with the Pledge and they look a lot better. It leaves things nice and black but without the shiny wet look of the AA. Good call. And as and added bonus, my truck now smells lemony fresh. :cheers:
Chris@glimmerglass
07-02-2009, 09:32 PM
If you want to apply by hand, use Poorboys Trim Restorer (http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/trim-restorer.html) on a Microfiber Applicator Pad. Simply Awesome stuff!
If you dont mind an aerosol spray, Fade2Black (http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/fainshinande.html) has a really nice finish to it.
And for wheel wells, Chemical Guys Bare Bones (http://www.glimmerglassdetailing.com/babounsp.html)
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And fwiw, heres a couple pics of Trim Restorer in action:
Before
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/zoundbarrier/IMG_5322.jpg
During
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/zoundbarrier/IMG_5325.jpg
The microfiber applicator gives it a little "bite" and as a result, does a little cleaning. Thus, the dirt it was pulling off:
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/zoundbarrier/IMG_5324.jpg
After
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/zoundbarrier/IMG_5327.jpg
wmgood64
07-03-2009, 09:34 AM
I agree different strokes for different folks!!!!
Timmy
07-04-2009, 07:44 PM
good post chris.
thumper_ehhhhh
07-04-2009, 09:03 PM
Hey I like that micro fiber applicator. I might grab me one of them some time. I havent had time to clean in a couple of weeks. Either to much rain or working on the front walk / retaining wall around the garden. Tommorow I will get to it. I will add the the Meguiars supreme shine seems to be working good. Things are still black. A bit dirty but still black. Not like what i was using and fading to white within a week rain or shine.
Narco
11-16-2009, 02:29 AM
just remove all the trim...looks better without it =) im taking my side molding off this weekend
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ive also heard of the peanut butter trick...everyone who has tried it swears by it
FootinSD
12-28-2009, 10:53 AM
303 Aerospace has worked wonders for me on anything plastic, rubber, vinyl or fiberglass on my truck, boat, etc... including the tires. Basically armor all on steroids and worth giving it a try.
Narco
01-03-2010, 02:01 PM
didnt someone post somewhere about using wesleys bleach white on the black rubber trim to get it looking new?
05nali
01-03-2010, 06:49 PM
mother's back to black ftw
As much as I use PB's stuff you would think that I would have used their trim restorer. I've been using this.
http://www.obsessivedetail.com/dsc_8835.jpg
El Capitan
01-20-2010, 08:44 PM
usually a leather conditioner never anything water based though
Rob @ GGD
01-21-2010, 09:18 AM
As much as I use PB's stuff you would think that I would have used their trim restorer. I've been using this.
http://www.obsessivedetail.com/dsc_8835.jpg
I think you will never go back to that once you use PB's Trim Restorer. Hit me up with a pm when you get a moment.
desktopdrummer20
01-22-2010, 11:53 AM
Soo...I see no one goes with the classic spit shine? hahahaha :hands:
2LOUD4U
01-26-2010, 02:31 PM
i use tire shine lol it works really good
dwmmatt23
01-26-2010, 04:28 PM
303 aerospace protectant A++++
2LOUD4U
03-14-2010, 08:27 PM
i use tire shine works amazing!
yukonjacks
04-24-2010, 10:43 PM
Hey Im not wanting to get ton a big argument with you guys. Not all of us have disposable incomes here as i'm sure some here do. I have found stuff that works for me. Keeps my truck lookin good. IMO.
Heres a little background info.
I'm turning 40 this year. We have a roof over our head. 2 kids, wife, father inlaw, 2 dogs, 2 cats, and a 23 year old nephew which pays next to nothing torwards anything but hes family so I let it be. My wife and I are the only ones bringing in money. Then theres kids sports, music lessons, swim lessons. Yes I would love to have the best of the best. I cant afford it. So over the many years I have found products that work for me. Armor all is one of them. It may not be the best but when you have to clean and keep care of 4 cars and a RV you take what works and what works cheap. Nephew does his own struff to his car. SO price starts to matter. Hey I would love to also have snap-ons or mac tools too but I am happy with my mastercraft and craftsman tools they also do the jobs I need. Then there is a little thing called fuel. Right now we are paying just over $4 a us gallon in USD. Ya know it all adds up. It's the price I pay for having my toy. So please before you start bashing people and the things they use just try and think maybe just maybe they dont have it as easy as I do. Dont just spout off thats shit use this. Your oppinion does matter if asked. To the OP of this thread sorry for letting it go way off. Have a great day all.
Your makin a big deal out of nothing, you sound like some of these products are real expensive compared to armoral. You might want to consider putting some armoral on you boot, shine it up real nice this give your nephew a good boot in the ass, before you do it, get your father in law out there with a paper and pen so he can take notes. Im just fuckin with you, get rid of the cats, then buy some good stuff
kickitandholdit
04-24-2010, 10:48 PM
sand and paint.. less maintenance haha all that stuff at the parts stores makes plastic and everything slimy and sticky so just paint it
midmohoe
04-25-2010, 06:41 PM
i use some stuff called coverall i get it at oreillys spray on wipe off works great imo
04awdlade
05-03-2010, 01:39 PM
Just did the step pads on my rear bumper with forever black.They had faded to a whiteish/gray and are now a nice black.Took about 6 coats, instead of the 2 the directions say.
highrollin113
05-12-2010, 02:24 PM
:laughing1::laughing1::laughing1:creamy peanut butter works even better than mother's back to black.
SERIOUSLY....just work it in with your fingers and wipe it off with a towel. the oil from the peanut butter penetrates into the plastic very well. this method even removes wax residue. I didn't believe this method when I first heard it, but tried it on my wife's malibu to remove the white wax from the black plastic and it looks like it is brand new...did the treatment over a year ago and the plastics look great after every wash.
Pat
i love that you tried it on the wifes malibu :laughing1:
Fauxnali
05-23-2010, 05:21 PM
Lately have been using Meguire's Hot Shine Tire Spray on all things black and plastic including running boards and under the hood.
I love the stuff, i use it inside the fender-wells as well.
Doesn't make the tires too shiny but a nice deep black.
ericsalvas
05-24-2010, 09:52 AM
ditto on meguiar
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