What? An EV Tahoe?

[Craigy]

This is absurd. In reality you'd stop in Valdosta - about the midway point - charge for 30-40 minutes at the Electrify America station in the Walmart parking lot, walk around the store and buy snacks for your trip. Or eat lunch at the Cajun Wild Crab next door. It would cost you about $4.80 to add 200 miles of range to your vehicle (if you're an EA member for $4/month). Once at Disney you'd find a Level 2 charger at your hotel and charge up for free for the return trip.

Charging infrastructure is lacking right now, but it's improving every day. Once the big truck stop brands realize how much they can profit by sticking charging stations in their parking lots, range anxiety will be a thing of the past. Allegedly Tesla's Supercharging network will be opened to other manufacturers soon - I'm not holding my breath on that one but it will cause demand to increase even faster.

For those who say "But I can't tow my horse trailer from Detroit to San Diego in one day like I can with my Yukon!" Well... it's not for you, then. No big deal.

Bruh do you even have kids. Or a wife. That are all going to sit around and watch you fiddle with some charger and have fun luxuriating at the walmart for half an hour.

Or better yet having to say, "sorry wife, please take the kids back into walmart, yeah the charger is only giving me 40kw, no babe I don't know why it's doing that, I know I tried the one next to it it was broken, maybe you can go try on some $13 wrangler jeans or something, get yourself something nice. I know honey, that car is finished charging at the faster charger but I just saw them go into the Cajun Wild Crab. Babe they're probably going to be awhile, I think it's a buffet. Yeah babe they were bigger people. No, I'm not going to go in and ask them to move it. Well babe you're just going to have to cancel the disney dinner at Ohana tonight. Just get the kids some beef sticks in walmart."

And then the whole concept of dumping the family and going off on an errand to charge your car while at Disney. Yeah

 

[iamdub]

long distance travel are def a no.

Long distance travel even for the current/new gas burners is a crossed fingers venture.

 

[Banks22]

Long distance travel even for the current/new gas burners is a crossed fingers venture.

How so? Gas tahoe/yukon can get over 400 miles on a single tank and baby diesels can get almost 700 miles....i agree the mpg isn’t the greatest in these rigs but people don’t buy these rigs for the mpg

 

[garymyman]

Bruh do you even have kids.

Twin 6 year olds and a 16 month old. My Cayenne has a 600 mile range, I can’t remember the last time we went more than 150 miles without stopping for half an hour. I’ll be fine with the Rivian’s 316 mile range. (Your story will absolutely happen, and I’ll dad-rage out of the lot with a 3 second 0-60 run.)

 

[Doubeleive]

Bruh do you even have kids. Or a wife. That are all going to sit around and watch you fiddle with some charger and have fun luxuriating at the walmart for half an hour.

Or better yet having to say, "sorry wife, please take the kids back into walmart, yeah the charger is only giving me 40kw, no babe I don't know why it's doing that, I know I tried the one next to it it was broken, maybe you can go try on some $13 wrangler jeans or something, get yourself something nice. I know honey, that car is finished charging at the faster charger but I just saw them go into the Cajun Wild Crab. Babe they're probably going to be awhile, I think it's a buffet. Yeah babe they were bigger people. No, I'm not going to go in and ask them to move it. Well babe you're just going to have to cancel the disney dinner at Ohana tonight. Just get the kids some beef sticks in walmart."

And then the whole concept of dumping the family and going off on an errand to charge your car while at Disney. Yeah

^ THIS TIMES 1 MILLION there putting the cart before the horse. i am going to laugh my @ss off as i drive by the lines for charging in my ICE vehicle.

 

[01dailey]

That is just a chat forum and that drawing is a rendering by an artist, nothing from GM. I think the earliest you’d see an electric Tahoe/yukon would be 2026-27 cuz the current platform is scheduled thru 2026. My cousin who works for GM thinks you’ll see an ev escalade first tho of the 3 suvs.
But yea the real world EV experiences so far are not the greatest, basically if u only have to travel <60 miles a day to work and home and then plug it in every night then they r fine, long distance travel are def a no. But what’s funny is charging prices home and on road are coming out to be equal to our elevated gas prices $4-5/gallon.

It's really hard to accurately estimate the future costs of charging an EV, as electrical rates are bound to soar. The cost to charge up might easily end up being much more expensive than gasoline.

 

[B-train]

You betcha on electric rates. Just like EVERY other industry in the last 2 years.....some bogus shortage, strike, etc. Everyone is coming op with stupid ways to rip people off. You think all those rebates for solar are FREE!!!! Think again, the piper will need to be paid

 

[H1Chester]

Studies have proven that they are not safer for the environment. Where do you get that electrical power? From a coal power plant. How are the batteries made? By digging massive lithium mines destroying forests and homes. What happens when a lithium battery catches on fire? It doesn't extinguish. The manufacturing and operation of the EV is more damaging to the environment than a gasoline vehicle!

 

[soulsea]

Liars the bunch of you.

Real reason you like fossil fuels is you like to put your nozzle in a hole.

 

[Doubeleive]

It certainly can take longer than that. My scenario of 30-40 minutes assumes the fast chargers are working at optimal levels. Which is not a given! Electrify America is the dominant charging network at the moment, besides Tesla, and they are plagued by broken chargers & slower-than-advertised rates. Again, I think the charging network issues will be solved by the market & healthy government subsidies. Just like farming.

The benchmark vehicle in my prior scenario is the Rivian - good time to mention I have ordered their SUV - which is more efficent than the Hummer but on par with the Lightning - both pretty awful by EV standards. For instance, a Tesla can add 200 miles in 15 minutes. Barely enough time to pee and pick out snacks.

farming and installing electric chargers are not even similar in any way shape or form.
even cable companies with mega billions can't afford to lay a single fiber optic cable to a house, they can reach a node but generally that's as far as they go into already existing infrastructure.
we are talking about basically digging up sidewalks and roadways and parking lots and laying new wire for each and every charger.
good f-in luck, not saying it can't be done, it can at great cost and with a army of workers that we do not have too many are suckling the nipple
these are not cell towers, not wireless access points, these are hard wired connections
throw this on top of it, each city/county/province/precinct, etc, etc has there own "permitting process" and you can be dam sure every "charging station" is going to have to be permitted and approved, blueprinted, documented, certified.
then before they can even dig a hole to lay a wire they have to survey for existing wire's, sewer pipes, drains, gas lines, etc,etc
1 farming tractor can do the work of a thousand men, these are not the same at all

 

[swathdiver]

What happens when a lithium battery catches on fire? It doesn't extinguish.

FF to 40 seconds and note the wording used and how she pivoted to save us:

Witnesses describe fiery Martin County crash that killed 4 people

The crash involving a Tesla sedan and a minivan occurred just after 12:30 p.m. at the intersection of southbound Federal Highway and Northwest Baker Road.

www.wptv.com

The passenger, Emma, was an organ donor and only her eyes were able to be saved from that crash and are going to someone in need.

 

[Banks22]

Liars the bunch of you.

Real reason you like fossil fuels is you like to put your nozzle in a hole.

Where as EV guys let the electric wand do the work.

 

[iamdub]

How so? Gas tahoe/yukon can get over 400 miles on a single tank and baby diesels can get almost 700 miles....i agree the mpg isn’t the greatest in these rigs but people don’t buy these rigs for the mpg

I meant crossed fingers in hoping the valvetrain doesn't fail and leave you stranded on a road trip, regardless of what's left in the tank.

 

[iamdub]

Studies have proven that they are not safer for the environment. Where do you get that electrical power? From a coal power plant. How are the batteries made? By digging massive lithium mines destroying forests and homes. What happens when a lithium battery catches on fire? It doesn't extinguish. The manufacturing and operation of the EV is more damaging to the environment than a gasoline vehicle!

But you don't see it or smell it in your normal, everyday life. Image is everything, reality is just an offensive hater.

 

[iamdub]

Where as EV guys let the electric wand do the work.

 

[Just Fishing]

Liars the bunch of you.

Real reason you like fossil fuels is you like to put your nozzle in a hole.

 

[GlockandRoll]

This is absurd. In reality you'd stop in Valdosta - about the midway point - charge for 30-40 minutes at the Electrify America station in the Walmart parking lot, walk around the store and buy snacks for your trip. Or eat lunch at the Cajun Wild Crab next door. It would cost you about $4.80 to add 200 miles of range to your vehicle (if you're an EA member for $4/month). Once at Disney you'd find a Level 2 charger at your hotel and charge up for free for the return trip.

Charging infrastructure is lacking right now, but it's improving every day. Once the big truck stop brands realize how much they can profit by sticking charging stations in their parking lots, range anxiety will be a thing of the past. Allegedly Tesla's Supercharging network will be opened to other manufacturers soon - I'm not holding my breath on that one but it will cause demand to increase even faster.

For those who say "But I can't tow my horse trailer from Detroit to San Diego in one day like I can with my Yukon!" Well... it's not for you, then. No big deal.

Exactly.
I bought my wife's Yukon 4 years ago, almost to the day, and she has put roughly 40K miles on it, mostly kid-hauling around Austin and grocery store, etc. That works out to about 30 miles per day.

The longest road trips we have taken are to N.E. Texas from Austin, about 260 miles, she is an ideal candidate for an EV.

We LOVE this thing, but it costs us over $300/month in just fuel alone. However if, say for example, she had a Telsa Model Y, it would drop that driving cost down to about $35/month (less if we had solar).

I've had a crew cab ram diesel for 6 years and am sick and tired of $110 oil changes, DEF/DPF/EGR problems, and $5/gal gas. So I've got a Cybertruck on order.

 

[EddieC]

Seems to be a heavy vehicle for that but then again Tesla developed a Tractor Trailer rig, so maybe weight isn't critical.

 

[GlockandRoll]

The Cybertruck is reported to weigh 7300lbs and goes 0-60 in under 3 seconds, and can float it's way across a river, a small body of water, etc.

 

[steiny93]

So I'm all diesel'd up for dailies (ecoDiesel for me and a baby Dmax denali for my wife) range/mileage is the only reason we have those versions.

But...
We will be adding an all electric suv to the garage sooner then later; here is why.

- 90% of our trips are less then 100 miles round trip from the house
- full tank whenever I leave the garage is a big plus
- electricity is cheaper then gas/diesel by the mile
- I don't want to waste time at the gas station, ever

Will we use it for long trips, nope.
Will we use it for towing, nope.
Will we ever charge it someplace other then home, nope.

Would ~100 mpg and ~1000 ft/lbs of torque be better then current options, absolutely.