I tried to order a 2022 Denali today.

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All these dealers will be singing a different tune about 12-18 months from now when …

1. interest rates double on financing and less people are shopping for $$88K vehicles ( or able to afford them )
2. the supply chain woes clears itself up and inventory sits on the lot
3. the economy moves from an inflation era more towards a potential recession era
4. cash strapped ( over extended ) recent new car buyers who 'over paid' in 2021-2022 start selling their automobiles to get out from under the hefty loans / monthly nut.
5. peoples jaws drop when they see their 401K dropped 20% the past 12 months vs rose 25% like past couple years, and their high priced car in the driveway is putting a damper
on their retirement plans
 

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So here's the question: anyone care to share any recent buying experiences in Oregon? Any place to avoid? Any places that go above-and-beyond?

I'm in the same boat of wondering this as well. We live just outside of Portland (40min north) and after a ton of research we're thinking our next rig will be a Suburban LS w/ Duramax. Our local dealer out here, which I've yet to make any contact with, has a Suburban LS w/ Duramax in transit right now and it's advertised at MSRP. Of all the new cars on their website they are at either MSRP or a small $500 discount, which I'm assuming is cash back Chevy is offering on certain models. They have 4.5 stars on google, for whatever that's worth. Also, as a point of reference, the local Ford dealer here has a couple of Expedition Max come through their lot and they advertise them on their website at ~$3K less than MSRP.
 

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All GM and Ford dealers in the U.S. received a letter from their respective manufacturers. It contained strong language addressing the sale of new vehicles to "brokers" as well as poor treatment of GM and Ford's customers by charging market adjustment fees. They made it clear they want it to stop, now. If these practices do not stop, manufacturers threatened revocation of dealer agreements, (long court battles) and a more immediate penalty of "redirection of allocated vehicles to other dealers not violating their agreement". 2022 should prove interesting.
 

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I'm in the same boat of wondering this as well. We live just outside of Portland (40min north) and after a ton of research we're thinking our next rig will be a Suburban LS w/ Duramax. Our local dealer out here, which I've yet to make any contact with, has a Suburban LS w/ Duramax in transit right now and it's advertised at MSRP. Of all the new cars on their website they are at either MSRP or a small $500 discount, which I'm assuming is cash back Chevy is offering on certain models. They have 4.5 stars on google, for whatever that's worth. Also, as a point of reference, the local Ford dealer here has a couple of Expedition Max come through their lot and they advertise them on their website at ~$3K less than MSRP.

GMC of Beaverton had quite a few Yukon XLs coming in and were asking MSRP last I checked.
 

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GMC of Beaverton had quite a few Yukon XLs coming in and were asking MSRP last I checked.

Yeah, that's where I got ignored.

I read some reviews and a few of the sales people are very highly rated - and I know the one who didn't help me wasn't them, so maybe I'll stop back by and request to speak to one of the "better" sales persons.

Also, fwiw, the Hillsboro dealer has Yukons at $10k over MSRP ...
 

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I often check the used car market for both the asking/selling price of my currently owned vehicles and what the asking/selling price is of the next vehicle(s) needed when the time comes. I've never purchased any vehicle brand new and am not afraid to maintain my vehicles for up to 200K+ when it makes sense.

I've got a 125K on my '15 Yukon XL Denali with a transmission that's slipping and probably won't make it till the end of the year. About 3 months ago I had a broken valve spring and rocker arm and was extremely lucky the valve stayed stuck in the spring and didn't drop into the engine. But I was probably not far from a catastrophic engine failure out of warranty. Given the 2021-2022's are still having the lifter and other top-end failures due to the AFM/DFM I've been doing a ton of research on a solid parts list and labor to mechanically delete the AFM on my 6.2 L86. That becomes a slippery slope when you realize a cam swap is required, then it turns into "Well if I'm going to have to change the cam then why not go aftermarket and gain some power?" Then if I'm going to do a top-end "over-haul" to delete the AFM why not get some CNC ported GM L86/LT1 heads with upgraded springs, trunion upgraded rockers, and throw on that catch can I should of added and now we've got a clean slate up top. Then before you know it all that, with labor, plus the built TK Performance 8l90e and billet torque converter (cause slipping trans + extra HP won't work well) has you knocking on the doors of $8-10K real quick.

Then I read how much people are paying over MSRP for a new ride because that's just the car market today then suddenly my $8-$10K list of AFM delete/correction goodies with labor while adding 50-75 HP, maximizing efficiency with a built trans and converter that also corrects all the stock 8l90e short comings looks like a dare I say better decision. Now if only the shop would guarantee I'd get another 4yrs/125K miles out of it. Either way if I only got another 75K miles out of it before it made sense to replace it'd still make more sense and offer more smiles per mile than paying this outrageous "dealer mark up".

/End Rant.

I don't envy anyone who is in the market for a new/used vehicle right now at all.
 

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For those in the market, don't forget that when you order the new vehicle you probably did not buy the vehicle. Let's say that you go to a dealer and place an order. Just make sure that the deposit (if any) is refundable to you. The dealer cannot guarantee the exact vehicle specifications that you filled out on the order sheet (stop/start is a recent example of changes that could happen). The reason I say this is that this summer I had an ordered vehicle arrive for delivery. Lo and behold, the price had changed. I assumed that this meant that I could negotiate with the dealer. So I did and the sale went through $2,000 lower than the MSRP. The salesman needs the sale right now and he made it happen. The salesman did not want to lose the vehicle to another person on the floor. He got the sale and I got my vehicle. I was willing to lose it, though. This one was a RAM, but I've negotiated Chev and Ford in the normal times after my order arrived at the dealership. Cruel? Yes, but they call me every year to do it again.
 

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Corwin motors in kalispell montana has 5 Yukon xl and suburban on hand to sell just stopped in to get a part n they told me that! Talk to a gentleman named gabe sorenio! Good guy
 

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For those in the market, don't forget that when you order the new vehicle you probably did not buy the vehicle. Let's say that you go to a dealer and place an order. Just make sure that the deposit (if any) is refundable to you. The dealer cannot guarantee the exact vehicle specifications that you filled out on the order sheet (stop/start is a recent example of changes that could happen). The reason I say this is that this summer I had an ordered vehicle arrive for delivery. Lo and behold, the price had changed. I assumed that this meant that I could negotiate with the dealer. So I did and the sale went through $2,000 lower than the MSRP. The salesman needs the sale right now and he made it happen. The salesman did not want to lose the vehicle to another person on the floor. He got the sale and I got my vehicle. I was willing to lose it, though. This one was a RAM, but I've negotiated Chev and Ford in the normal times after my order arrived at the dealership. Cruel? Yes, but they call me every year to do it again.

Not cruel at all! Anytime the seller makes any changes to the selling price they open the door to the risk of losing that sale, period.
 

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You may find that out of state dealers are charging above MSRP while they are in turn charging “only” sticker price to the locals/someone in state. Have found numerous dealerships across different brands doing just this. A Ram dealership that normally sells a lot of trucks out of state is even running radio ads saying ignore the markup on their website…it’s all about finding the dealership willing to work with you.
Yes, I thought it was odd that one of the first questions asked by several dealerships was whether or not I would be purchasing from in state. I did purchase mine for a dealership in state and paid $5K below MSRP, but that was due to a co-op discount that they were willing to honor. Most dealerships I contacted would not honor it. If I didn’t have the co-op discount my dealer would have sold at MSRP, if not slightly lower. They were willing to negotiate, but I was also trading in my vehicle. Just waiting on delivery to dealership now. It’s been sitting at the rail yard in Atlanta for almost a week.
 

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