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crap, need help

Something went wrong here....

So I went ahead, got me 2 resistors (10 Ohms, 10 Watts) and hooked them up with the LED tails. I hooked the resistors up parallel to the brake lights (1 end to the light blue, the other to the black wire).
I did that with the first light and took her for a test run, everything worked, lights, brakes, turn signals, even cruise.
So I went ahead and did the same thing for the 2nd one, everything worked but I couldn't take her on a test run because now she won't start any more...

I put in the keys, everything seems fine but when I try starting her the radio goes off (does it always do that??) and it sounds like the starter is turning a bit, stops, turns a bit, stops, turns a bit, stops... and so on...

I was shocked, checked the fuses, couldn't see anything wrong. Rolled up the drivers side window to go in for lunch and it was going realllllllllly slow...

I've been out there working for like 4 hours now (w/ the radio on), took her on 4 trips of about 300 feet each in between, but I don't think that's enough to drain the stock battery, is it?

OH dang I'm so scared now...
Could I have fried anything by putting resistors in parallel to the led brake lights?

Please say something...............

@tast101: ***, I see what you mean... :)
 

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your battery is low, just boost it...


you think you only had the radio on, but chances are you also had a door open, that turns on all the courtesy lights, possibly headlights or running lights... if you had the key in then you may have had stuff in the instrument cluster going, HVAC fans, etc... and starting it for 1 minute to drive 300 feet will not charge the battery... give it a boost, go for a good 30 minute to hour long drive and you should be fine.


if it is the stock battery in that truck, i would not be surprised if it's toast, i have found average life for a stock GM battery is about 5 years... i have a 2000 GA, and the battery in that died at about 5-6 years.
 
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so I tried boosting it with a Cadillac DeVille with the 4.7 V8 in it, nothing, absolutely nothing happened.

But I missdiagnosed earlier, it's not turning a bit, it's not turning at all. It just goes click click click.... that's it.

So I hooked a multimeter to the battery: 12.2 Volts. Turned on the ignition (noticing all the lights are dimm and everything): 9 Volts.
Tried starting (click click click): 7.8 Volts....
Now I know a stock car battery these days provides 13.8V at idle (nothing hooked up), so that's far from normal.

I just wonder whether it may be something else too? A stuck starter solenoid?
The car has been sitting for a month before and it always started right up.

But I noticed that yesterday and today, after starting it would idle at almost 1300RPM and then slowly go down to regular idle speed.
Now I know that on my dad's 13 year old BMW that's the engine computer that's trying to maintain 14V and slowly but steadily engages the alternator more and more and decreases idle slowly to maintain the 14V, is that the same on the Tahoe?
 

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try taking the battery out of the situation, unhook the battery and put the booster cables only on the battery cables, if it starts, you battery is toast, if it doesn't, it's something else.
 
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ok I think my old battery is toast.
Well something good came out of this: Optima Red Top.

It's funny, if I do something and then something else dies I have a tendency to blame it on what I just did...

Oh well, I'm back to the stock lights, but that's because the ones I have here have the same manufacturing defect denalianyone's had. Ugly.
And for all that are reading:

Car is running again, now has a Optima RedTop Battery.
Also, the cruise problem was fixed when I wired 10Ohms, 10 Watts resistors in parallel to the brake lights (light blue to black wires).
But for now the stock lights are back in because the ones I have here have a manufacturing defect (3 lights on the Passenger side are about 45˚ off).

Thank you to everyone for cheering me through this.
I really do appreciate it.
Again, THANKS.
Chris

:patriot::patriot::patriot:


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Now I'll have to find another set of lights...
All suggestions welcome.
All I really wanna do is get rid of the amber.

Any experience with these:
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Glad you got it all worked out man. I would have been bugging as well. Those are the same ones that I bought and they do have the built in resistor already. Here's a pic of them on my 01.

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Those are the ones we all have pretty much, I like them better than the ones you have now, because all the resistors etc are built in, so they are really plug and play. Just use the thread above I posted because they don't come with instructions and they don't plug in the same order as the stock lights.
 

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FYI, I used 6-Ohm 50-Watt resistors and it works fine. You need to do it for both sides. The OP said he wired different ones and the cruise worked. But maybe he didnt have lights on. Cruise will work in the daytime without lights on even without the reistors. But no bueno at night or when lights are turned on during the day, or in low light conditions when auto lights are selected.

When the lights are on, the cruise will not work unless the resistors are wired in. I can confirm it's the light blue and black wires to wire the resistors in parallel to the tail (not brake) light (same housing different wire for the brake light). The car "thinks" a tail light is out when leds are in and the car's lights are on if you don't put the resistors in.

I used electrical plug connectors so that I can remove them easily if/when I sell the truck and put incandescents back in (yes, I am just that cheap). Also, put a long enough pigtail on them so you can mount the resistors to the metal panal adjacent to the lights insid and still be able to open the light lens and not rip out the wiring.

If you have questions fire away. I will be happy to help if I can. Happy wiring!!!

Note, make sure the keys are off and the lights are not on when wiring or you might end up shorting a wire and blowing a fuse. If you blow the lamp fuse for the tail light, it is a 15amp fuse in the fuse block under the hood. Now how do I know that???
 

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