BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

[OR VietVet]

I own a GMT800 and run 5w-30 full synthetic Valvoline Restore & Protect oil.

I would have thought that this recall oil/motor fiasco would be talked out by now and figured out by now. With the "infighting" I have seen here, you would have thought that some of the members here were at fault for the problems on the 6.2 engines.

Look, I get it, this recall has affected a lot of people and the affected members here are a portion of that.......but hell man, deal with it. You bought an over priced "NEWER" SUV or TRUCK with a troublesome engine. Unless you have money to burn, I don't understand buying one of the newer trucks and making those outrageous monthly payments and higher insurance payments, just so you can have "super cruise" and what ever else "tickles a fancy". But you are always free to spend your money the way you want to.

I apologize in advance if my take on this offends and I know some will take it as a personal affront. It is not meant to be that way. So, let the flood gates open and the p*i*ss*e*d off people tell me to mind my own bee's wax!

 

[jfoj]

I still drive my 2005 GMT 800 6.0l everyday. 275,000 mi in counting. The problem is the rust is taking over the rocker panels are quickly going away and I'm starting to get some rest around the fuel fuel door. Never been wrecked. If it wasn't for the rust I'd be putting a lot of money in it.

I use the 2024 more for longer trips at this point and pray my engine holds up, it's not in the recall window but I still don't trust it.

 

[OR VietVet]

I still drive my 2005 GMT 800 6.0l everyday. 275,000 mi in counting. The problem is the rust is taking over the rocker panels are quickly going away and I'm starting to get some rest around the fuel fuel door. Never been wrecked. If it wasn't for the rust I'd be putting a lot of money in it.

I use the 2024 more for longer trips at this point and pray my engine holds up, it's not in the recall window but I still don't trust it.

IMO, get another GMT800 and put some money in it/them. I will not own a truck/suv that I have to "pray" that it holds up.

 

[jfoj]

I hear you. I would buy a clean GMT800 all day long with under 150k miles on it.

I saw a 1995 Buick Roadmaster last week that had 14,000 miles on it. It was in as delivered condition. The guy had it for about 8 years, got if from a widow whos husband died with about 8,000 miles on it about 8 years ago. The problem is he does not want daily drive the Roadmaster!!!

My son has a 1996 Impala SS with about 110,000 miles, this is his daily, he loves it. Takes 6 hour road trips all the time. At least the 1996 is OBDII.

 

[Fless]

Look, I get it, this recall has effected a lot of people and the effected members here are a portion of that.......but hell man, deal with it. is not meant to be that way. So, let the flood gates open and the p*i*ss*e*d off people tell me to mind my own bee's wax!

I have no beef with what you said, but please stop mis-using "effected." Your statement above screams for the word "affected." Grammar police, I know, but inglish is hard. (Yes, I mis-spelled that intentionally.)

People and outcomes are affected. Things that get done or happen are effected.

'Affect' vs. 'Effect'

How to pick the right one

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Stbentoak]

A lot of things have changed, these engines are NOT designed for 0W20 oil, if they were, they would still be using polymer coated rod bearings, they still use polymer coated main bearings, the oil pump would be like the current generation L84 5.3l engine with is a variable displacement SINGLE stage variable displacement oil pump, unlike the stupid DUAL stage variable displacement oil pump that the L87 6.2l is still using, again due to fuel economy, not engine reliability and longevity. The DUAL stage oil pumps do not command the increase in oil pressure until around 3000 RPM where these engines rarely operate unless accelerating on to an on ramp at a pretty brisk pace or passing at a pretty good rate on the highway. The 5.3l benefits from the SINGLE stage oil pump and has more oil pressure at lower RPM then when compared to the 6.2l with the DUAL stage oil pump.

I remember years back when the 3.0 came out., Everybody absolutely lost their mind over the rear oil pump rubber drive belt. Called it everything under the Sun..... Oh my Gawd! How could they do this to an engine? Definitely a point of early failure! Wouldn't EVER buy one... Weak Link! Big mistake!

I bet many of those buyers would love to have this rear rubber oil belt now.....

 

[Boston]

I own a GMT800 and run 5w-30 full synthetic Valvoline Restore & Protect oil.

I would have thought that this recall oil/motor fiasco would be talked out by now and figured out by now. With the "infighting" I have seen here, you would have thought that some of the members here were at fault for the problems on the 6.2 engines.

Look, I get it, this recall has effected a lot of people and the effected members here are a portion of that.......but hell man, deal with it. You bought an over priced "NEWER" SUV or TRUCK with a troublesome engine. Unless you have money to burn, I don't understand buying one of the newer trucks and making those outrageous monthly payments and higher insurance payments, just so you can have "super cruise" and what ever else "tickles a fancy". But you are always free to spend your money the way you want to.

I apologize in advance if my take on this offends and I know some will take it as a personal affront. It is not meant to be that way. So, let the flood gates open and the p*i*ss*e*d off people tell me to mind my own bee's wax!

…none of us knowingly bought any of theses vehicles with this engine expecting catastrophic failures

 

[OR VietVet]

…none of us knowingly bought any of theses vehicles with this engine expecting catastrophic failures

Never said you did. IMO, again, the upfront and ongoing costs are TOO MUCH. Add this engine problem in there and it can make some of the owners crazy and cause them to post REPEATEDLY about the same thing, over and over again. IMO, I don't buy new. Too much of a loss, right off of the lot. I buy something that has whatever problems documented already and I can make an informed decision. Hard to make informed decisions on new new vehicles.

 

[OR VietVet]

I have no beef with what you said, but please stop mis-using "effected." Your statement above screams for the word "affected." Grammar police, I know, but inglish is hard. (Yes, I mis-spelled that intentionally.)

People and outcomes are affected. Things that get done or happen are effected.

'Affect' vs. 'Effect'

How to pick the right one

www.merriam-webster.com

I went back and corrected those mistakes.

 

[DuraYuk]

I remember years back when the 3.0 came out., Everybody absolutely lost their mind over the rear oil pump rubber drive belt. Called it everything under the Sun..... Oh my Gawd! How could they do this to an engine? Definitely a point of early failure! Wouldn't EVER buy one... Weak Link! Big mistake!

I bet many of those buyers would love to have this rear rubber oil belt now.....

Whats crazy is there hasn't been a documented early failure of the wet belt that i have seen Which is pretty impressive honestly.

 

[DuraYuk]

I own a GMT800 and run 5w-30 full synthetic Valvoline Restore & Protect oil.

I would have thought that this recall oil/motor fiasco would be talked out by now and figured out by now. With the "infighting" I have seen here, you would have thought that some of the members here were at fault for the problems on the 6.2 engines.

Look, I get it, this recall has affected a lot of people and the affected members here are a portion of that.......but hell man, deal with it. You bought an over priced "NEWER" SUV or TRUCK with a troublesome engine. Unless you have money to burn, I don't understand buying one of the newer trucks and making those outrageous monthly payments and higher insurance payments, just so you can have "super cruise" and what ever else "tickles a fancy". But you are always free to spend your money the way you want to.

I apologize in advance if my take on this offends and I know some will take it as a personal affront. It is not meant to be that way. So, let the flood gates open and the p*i*ss*e*d off people tell me to mind my own bee's wax!

Its certainly a take.

But for many of us we want safety. Those old 'rigs' were not that safe. They are not that reliable and have many many issues that have been fixed repeatedly over time.

Dont kid yourself if your a fan of the gmt800 platform and its host of issues.

4l60/65/80 tons of issues. Surprising for such a simple unit. Rebuilt thousands of them.

Or the v8s that have lifter problems and valve spring issues. Been there done that.

Or the hvac systems.

Or the interior materials.

Or the emmissions/evaporative system

Or the fuel system

Or the wheel bearing issues.

Or the rear end issues.

Or the transfer case issues.

Or the front differential issues.

Or the spare tire release tube issues.

Or the bcm issues.

Or the guage cluster issues.

Or the clockspring issues.

I will concede that this problems are cheaper to fix than a newer vehicle but dont kid yourself.

I want the safest vehicle i can get thats comfortable.

But I totally hear what you mean. I appreciate you justifying your reasoning for driving a classic car.

 

[headwest]

My sentiments as well. Worked EMS for 30 yrs and vehicles are significantly safer now. Many drivers that were killed in crashes in the 60-80s would likely survive today due to safety engineering and increased seat belt use.

But 40,000 vehicle deaths a year still occur in the U.S. today due to lack of driver training, screen and other distractions, drug use (legal and illegal) risky behavior and increased traffic volume. There are hundreds of thousands of injuries costing billions in health care and devastation to livelihoods of many. I drive a lot out west and speeds are 70-85 many places. Stopping distances, roof structures, air bags, ABS, tires, cabin crash absorption, pre-tensioners, etc have steadily improved. I like the new tech of modern vehicles but safety is paramount for me and my family.

 

[tagexpcom]

Its certainly a take.

But for many of us we want safety. Those old 'rigs' were not that safe. They are not that reliable and have many many issues that have been fixed repeatedly over time.

Dont kid yourself if your a fan of the gmt800 platform and its host of issues.

4l60/65/80 tons of issues. Surprising for such a simple unit. Rebuilt thousands of them.

Or the v8s that have lifter problems and valve spring issues. Been there done that.

Or the hvac systems.

Or the interior materials.

Or the emmissions/evaporative system

Or the fuel system

Or the wheel bearing issues.

Or the rear end issues.

Or the transfer case issues.

Or the front differential issues.

Or the spare tire release tube issues.

Or the bcm issues.

Or the guage cluster issues.

Or the clockspring issues.

I will concede that this problems are cheaper to fix than a newer vehicle but dont kid yourself.

I want the safest vehicle i can get thats comfortable.

But I totally hear what you mean. I appreciate you justifying your reasoning for driving a classic car.

Totally relate!

My brand-new 2004 Cadillac SRX with Northstar V8 had major engine work 2 times in the 1st 2 weeks of ownership! Oil leaks lead them to completely tear down/fix the front part of the engine. Then with continued oil leaks the rear end was found to have the gasket partially off inside!

I still have it, 21yrs later but it's been a whole series of repairs over the 21 years at 174K miles. I never felt 'in danger' so much as annoyed many times from AWD going out (causing jerking at hi speed) which required several major visits to auto shop to the transmission going out to a few failed spark-plugs (check engine lights) to a recent engine boot fix.

And the icing on the cake... I never bothered with the SRX 'a hanging key ring can do something with the ignition switch' recall and still get postcards every so often. So I've learned that ignored recalls can get you lifetime junk mail!

In any case, my 2021 Yukon engine recall passed, is at 63K miles, and doing better than my SRX so far

 

[vcode]

Its certainly a take.

But for many of us we want safety. Those old 'rigs' were not that safe. They are not that reliable and have many many issues that have been fixed repeatedly over time.

Dont kid yourself if your a fan of the gmt800 platform and its host of issues.

4l60/65/80 tons of issues. Surprising for such a simple unit. Rebuilt thousands of them.

Or the v8s that have lifter problems and valve spring issues. Been there done that.

Or the hvac systems.

Or the interior materials.

Or the emmissions/evaporative system

Or the fuel system

Or the wheel bearing issues.

Or the rear end issues.

Or the transfer case issues.

Or the front differential issues.

Or the spare tire release tube issues.

Or the bcm issues.

Or the guage cluster issues.

Or the clockspring issues.

I will concede that this problems are cheaper to fix than a newer vehicle but dont kid yourself.

I want the safest vehicle i can get thats comfortable.

But I totally hear what you mean. I appreciate you justifying your reasoning for driving a classic car.

You forgot the leaky transmission lines and breaking outside mirror motors. And let's not forget dashboard covers that completely disintegrate (guess that falls under interior materials).

 

[BigdawgR6]

Never said you did. IMO, again, the upfront and ongoing costs are TOO MUCH. Add this engine problem in there and it can make some of the owners crazy and cause them to post REPEATEDLY about the same thing, over and over again. IMO, I don't buy new. Too much of a loss, right off of the lot. I buy something that has whatever problems documented already and I can make an informed decision. Hard to make informed decisions on new new vehicles.

That's cool and all, but this thread isn't about the GMT800 series. I bought my '22 and '23 Denali based off looks and creature comforts. I'll take my chances with this engine and enjoy the hell out of this rig. With that said, do the Escalade V's fall into this category with engine issues?

 

[JTGZ71]

With that said, do the Escalade V's fall into this category with engine issues?

The V has a different V8 engine, not part of this recall, as far as I understand.

 

[vcode]

The V has a different V8 engine, not part of this recall, as far as I understand.

But there are reports of them (and CT5-V's) blowing up at low miles as well......

 

[AEHaas]

This “new” 2024 GMC Yukon XL Denali is a little over a year old. It has just over 7,000 miles now. It is part of the GMC Recall for possible engine rod bearing failures. They are now recommending changing the OEM recommended oil from a 20 grade to a 40 grade, specifically 0W-40. If the original engine “passes” the test then the engine does not need to be replaced, rather the owner is to use 0W-40 oil instead. If the engine has to be replaced then the original 0W-20 oil is to be used in the “new” replacement engine.

I did not know about the recall until I reached around the 4,000 mile mark on the truck. I ran the OEM oil for 2,000 miles then got a UOA (Used Oil Analysis) (drawn from the oil stick tube). I changed the oil filter at that time to a Wix oil filter. The OEM oil was run another 2,000 miles, total 4,000 on the truck and the oil. This was the second UOA.

I changed the oil for the first time at the 4,000 mile mark to Renewable Lubricants 0W-20 oil and the filter was changed to a Motorcraft oil filter left over from my Lincoln Navigator days. I opened up the Wix filter and felt the debris was lower than normal for the milage. I was happy with this engine and felt it would last well. The engine used no oil.

I ran another 2,000 miles and got a UOA from the oil dip stick tube again. I got another UOA when I changed this 0W-20 RLI oil at the 3,000 mile mark, 7,000 total miles on the truck.

The oil now is bio-based RLI 0W-30. I got a UOA after just 100 miles, 7,100 miles on the truck.The object was to calculate the residual oil in the engine after an oil change. In any case, no indication from UOA that my engine is hurting.

ali

 

[Vladimir2306]

Sorry, What is it "UOA"?

 

[the 18th letter]

Sorry, What is it "UOA"?

Used oil analysis