BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

[viven44]

Guys this is an argument of different schools of thought.

In my observation folks like @DuraYuk @vcode , maybe a couple others are Tech Enthusiasts, and a bit more bold in risk taking, a lot of the others here including myself are highly risk averse (again in my observation.)

In the Automotive industry each phase below is ~3-5 years (warranty period is usually the graduation mark). In personal electronics each phase is ~1 year.

I am on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum as some of the enthusiats here. I am beyond skeptic. I don't touch anything unless it's been through 4-5 phases, well past warranty and with significant crowd knowledge, know-how... That is why I still drive my 80s trucks with proven / simple technology. I don't see a need for more.

 

[vcode]

Just to move on..... I saw a GM dealer ad for a used Silverado with the 6.2L that claimed the recall had been performed. Did they just change the oil and say all done? Or has the recall campaign actually started?

 

[JTGZ71]

Just to move on..... I saw a GM dealer ad for a used Silverado with the 6.2L that claimed the recall had been performed. Did they just change the oil and say all done? Or has the recall campaign actually started?

Seems unlikely (to me) that the recall campaign has officially started. But maybe the dealer had the tool (pico scope or whatever it’s called) and followed the outlined testing procedure on that truck as kind of an unofficial experiment, and assuming it passed, went ahead and changed the oil? Or would it be a no-no for a dealer to do that if the recall campaign hasn’t officially started?

Or, maybe the dealer is just lying…

EDIT: I suppose it would make sense that the dealers may already be doing the test for vehicles in inventory, but I bet if a customer took their truck into that same dealer and asked for the recall work to be done, the service dept would say you can’t come in until you get the letter from GM.

 

[23Seven]

How’s the pissing contest going today?

DFM: Good or Bad?

0-20 vs 0-40?

I think we should all just do what DuraYuk says, he is all knowing and is so smart he tells everybody else how to run there 6.2 from the seat of his Duramax. He can obviously pee further than anyone here and should be the final authority of all things.

 

[blanchard7684]

I don’t think less of anyone for using 0w20.

I can see how 0w20 looks like it’s a successful oil for minimizing friction, pumping losses while maintaining engine protection.

Victor shepherd took two toyota v8s to 1 million miles in 10,000 mile oci. This stuff can actually work.

0w20 can work well in many applications if it the design clearly incorporates it.

However if there is counterfactual information available I think it is worth a second or third thought.

… and I think there is enough counterfactual information regarding specific use of 0w20 in 6.2.

I wanted to post this less people think I wake up in the morning and hit a punching bag with a picture of 0w20 on it.

 

[blanchard7684]

How’s the pissing contest going today?

DFM: Good or Bad?

0-20 vs 0-40?

I think we should all just do what DuraYuk says, he is all knowing and is so smart he tells everybody else how to run there 6.2 from the seat of his Duramax. He can obviously pee further than anyone here and should be the final authority of all things.

You forgot auto start stop

 

[DuraYuk]

How’s the pissing contest going today?

DFM: Good or Bad?

0-20 vs 0-40?

I think we should all just do what DuraYuk says, he is all knowing and is so smart he tells everybody else how to run there 6.2 from the seat of his Duramax. He can obviously pee further than anyone here and should be the final authority of all things.

Lmao. That's funny.

All I did was post objective data. But way to keep the discussion going.

I never measured how far I can piss? Is that something yall did in the 70s? Sorry man im not that old. I dont know the lingo.

Its not rocket science to A look and read the recall in its entirety. B to realize that just because the displacement is the same as an engine 20 years older that it isnt the same engine. C.) Realize the 0w-20 is still the manufacture recommended oil D.) That there are millions upon millions of 6.2 with 0w-20 and other engines that run it without issue E.) That it isnt a conspiracy to want efficiency and gas mileage.

But I hear ya. Fact checking ain't the cool thing to do these days. Hahaha

I hope you guys are having a good day.

Better yet why not put some gear oil in? I mean let's get max protection. Maybe some Lucas oil stabilizer. Yall remember the little displays by the parts counter? Its gotta work right ? Right? Hahahaha

 

[blanchard7684]

Its not rocket science to A look and read the recall in its entirety. B to realize that just because the displacement is the same as an engine 20 years older that it isnt the same engine.

You know good and damn well I never claimed they were the same engine.

Is this the objective data you are advertising? Please…

There are numerous instances of bold and underlined references to the journal sizes being the same.

For the 900th time this is the salient point because this is where bearing design has to incorporate oil viscosity.

You never attempted a real response to this.

Instead you made up a claim I never made ( same engine) and then doubled down claiming what I posted proved your point about 0w20 when it did the exact opposite.

You can’t offer any technical response because you are out of your lane on this and are resorting to distraction and fabrication.

And yeah it isn’t rocket science to see that 0w40 can not only just work on a perfect manufactured crank but also ones with imperfect surface finish and dimensions.

This too is part of the recall no matter how much you ignore it and keep typing “ it isn’t the oil because
Millions of engines use it”

It is part of the recall because it is a countermeasure.

Gm isn’t going to put out a countermeasure in front of nhtsa that’s a troll job.

We gonna discuss houses some more?

Or what other lame distraction do you have?

 

[DuraYuk]

You know good and damn well I never claimed they were the same engine.

Is this the objective data you are advertising? Please…

There are numerous instances of bold and underlined references to the journal sizes being the same.

For the 900th time this is the salient point because this is where bearing design has to incorporate oil viscosity.

You never attempted a real response to this.

Instead you made up a claim I never made ( same engine) and then doubled down claiming what I posted proved your point about 0w20 when it did the exact opposite.

You can’t offer any technical response because you are out of your lane on this and are resorting to distraction and fabrication.

And yeah it isn’t rocket science to see that 0w40 can not only just work on a perfect manufactured crank but also ones with imperfect surface finish and dimensions.

This too is part of the recall no matter how much you ignore it and keep typing “ it isn’t the oil because
Millions of engines use it”

It is part of the recall because it is a countermeasure.

Gm isn’t going to put out a countermeasure in front of nhtsa that’s a troll job.

We gonna discuss houses some more?

Or what other lame distraction do you have?

My mom said not to engage with you anymore. So I wont. Im tired of it keep posting your stuff. Let the audience decide for themselves.

Tbh your posts are so convoluted I dont even know what you are saying anymore.

I hope you have a great day! I dont want to make you mad/angry. This is a forum for positive discussion.

 

[blanchard7684]

My mom said not to engage with you anymore. So I wont. Im tired of it keep posting your stuff. Let the audience decide for themselves.

Tbh your posts are so convoluted I dont even know what you are saying anymore.

I hope you have a great day!

lmao.

Watch your step walking backwards like that.