Chip Retrofit Lawsuit?

todayusay · Apr 5, 2023

we sold a 22 Z71 that had heated seats and parking sensors both to be retrofitted and bought a 23 Z71 that had both heated seats and parking sensors working 100%. The only difference in the two vehicles was the exterior color (other than the obvious - 22 vs 23).

Both were Z71s with luxury package and buckets. 22 was built in March 22, and the 23 was built in August 23.

So yeah, I'd agree with the sentiment that GM has/had the parts to complete the retrofits but decided to use them in the 23s. first month or so of the 23s being built there really weren't any retrofits...not sure how often the retrofits are occurring on new ones being built

I view it almost like the gift card industry, manufacturers probably like leaving out options because there will be a certain percentage of vehicles that never get the retrofit chips

Steebu · Apr 5, 2023

I posted this back in March of 22.

Somewhere deep in a GM board room:

”We have 150,000 chips and won’t get more until December. Should we send them to our dealers to fix those cars we already sold? Orrrrr … should we build new cars and make more money? All those in favor of fixing those cars we sold? No one? OK, more money it is …”

GoNoGo · Apr 5, 2023

GM is an immoral and untrustworthy corporation, their OnStar and intrusive MyGM app practices alone make it obvious to me.

Some great vehicles and loyal customers though.

chrisbusnut · Apr 10, 2023

I'm only waiting on a heating steering wheel retrofit, yet I'm extremely frustrated. Especially (as previously mentioned) when I look on the lots and every 23 model I've seen has the heated steering wheel feature installed. It's obvious that they have the parts and are either too disorganized or incompetent to manage the back log of units that need the retrofits. Very unfortunate.

Dkay51 · Apr 10, 2023

Well if your promised it and it’s been a reasonable amount of time, put it in writing as a demand with a reasonable amount of time that you’re demanding the completion of the retrofit by.

Only reason I am saying that is because you have to factor what is reasonable. At this point if you got your truck in say September and now they are producing fully loaded no constraints, then they should be working on completing the retrofits at the same time. My 23’ Yukon Denali Ultimate was completed by mid January and has absolutely zero constraints with no retrofit so I got everything in it. There fore you shouldn’t have any issue being caught up on retrofitting within a reasonable time.

Coolmex200 · Apr 10, 2023

I get a feeling they aren’t prioritizing the 2022 owners. Chips are available and as mentioned above, 2023s are coming with them installed….I do think putting pressure to fulfill their obligations should be the correct action. All you guys who are scolding him probably be the first ones to ask for the manager…..smh

Justin · Apr 10, 2023

Hopping in here, as I've been waiting on a heated steering wheel and parking sensors since May of 2022.

martinajm · Apr 10, 2023

I have been waiting for 13 months. If I were GM, I would stop the bleeding before doing the retrofits. That means not making the problem worse, i.e. more total retrofits, by shipping the 23's short of chips.
What is unknow is how "solved" the chip shortage is. Is there an abundance of surplus chips (vs normal production requirements) now available to catch the backlog or are they just now able to keep up with (and slightly exceed) production demand. There also may be an aspect of a controlled release to ensure that the service network is not flooded with retrofit work all at once.

madatgmc · Apr 10, 2023

navyseal334 said:
While it's a bigger issue that a single lawsuit might not solve, there is a case to be made that chips ARE available to perform these retrofits; Chevrolet has produced multiple 2023 models with these features (including mine back in October).

A case could be made that GM should have resolved its obligations to 2022 owners before contracts were filled with 2023 owners but those obligations were loosey-goosey commitments instead of a contract.

Again, this would likely require something at the level of a class-action lawsuit to make something happen given how many 2022s are still "waiting for chips". Chips have been available for months now; GM is just arbitrarily allocating those chips to newer (and likely more profitable orders). Until the chip supply exceeds the log of new orders, I think it's unlikely they'll start filling the back-log of old retrofits.

The company's highest priority is pushing vehicles and turning a profit and, unfortunately for many, retrofits help in neither regard. Some will argue that they're alienating future repeat buyers - which is true - but many people learn to live and move on; they may be counting on vehicle owners looking past it next time they're in the market.

Retrofits were promised in an unprecedented era when manufacturers were faced with either putting out incomplete vehicles or crimping their vehicle sales even more. Promises were made without knowing how long the chip shortage would last. Reality has refocused manufacturer's attentions on optimizing the current circumstances, which still leaves them with a shortage and small incentive to make good on their promises.

As you said, Yukons have been produced since at least last October with the front/rear park assist chip. They have our money and don't care about us. I recommend calling the GMC Executive resolution office at 855-880-1400 and complaining. [email protected].

ZKWBQD · Apr 10, 2023

SpartyCubsFan said:
I've got a 2022 Yukon Denali indicating "later retrofit" on the parking sensor systems, and I'm just about at a year of having paid for and financed a depreciating vehicle without that functionality. My sales guy continues to harass his GM contact every 2 weeks, and my efforts to contact GM over social media and via phone have resulted in them telling me to pound sand. No date, no estimate, no nothing. I know I'm one of many, many people in the same boat.

My question is this: Has anyone spoken to an attorney about the situation to see if there's any remedy? My non-legal mind would think that forcing people to pay for the systems they don't have (or finance them at a high interest rate) may get into some type of provable harm. Looking for any and all options at this point with no end in sight, and yeah, I'm fairly hacked off about it.

I WOULD RECOMMEND GIVING UP. I have never heard of anyone receiving those chips AFTER they purchased the vehicle. When I purchased my Tahoe right on the Monroney window sticker there was a $100 price deduction because these chips were not installed in my vehicle. I'm not an attorney, but I suspect this is General Motors “Get out of jail card" for not having those chips. If you REALLY want this part, you might sell your vehicle and buy a new one, the new ones all come with these chips. Everyone said that 2022 was the worst year to buy a car. They were right.

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