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When using TDS, you just need access to any modern computer connected to the internet. To get the Tech-2 connected to the PC, I use a Keyspan Lite adapter that goes from the big phone cord to a serial port to a USB port. Now you may or may not need to do that flash, BlackBear might be able to help and preserve the old tune. Talk to them first. I do not know exactly what GM gave you, maybe post a pic?
Thanks for the reply. I've been in contact with bbp, they are just really really backed up right now. Ive requested a few options.
1. Their tune for the whipple
2. A factory tune for my tahoe so I can get the whipple tune to start (whipple requires factory tune as a start)
Just trying to be prepared for all outcomes. It will be a few more weeks before the sc is delivered so i still have some time.
Below is what was listed. Its in my paperwork as well, in the garage somewhere.Screenshot_20201128-234142_Yahoo Mail.jpg
 

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What if I need to program or update a module?

Depends on what you want to update. The TIS2000 is only good for 2006 and back, except Saturn vehicles up to 2007, I believe.

I, like James, installed the TIS2000 software from the disks provided onto an old Win 7 laptop and it works just fine. Once it installed I right clicked on the program and told it to always run in Win XP compatibility mode.

I actually just used it today to reprogram a used ECM as a replacement for my buddies 2001 Suburban.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I've been in contact with bbp, they are just really really backed up right now. Ive requested a few options.
1. Their tune for the whipple
2. A factory tune for my tahoe so I can get the whipple tune to start (whipple requires factory tune as a start)
Just trying to be prepared for all outcomes. It will be a few more weeks before the sc is delivered so i still have some time.
Below is what was listed. Its in my paperwork as well, in the garage somewhere.View attachment 263659

Is your engine an LY5 or LMG? I'm thinking LY5 as the calibrations for my FlexFuel LC9 are different than those listed by that guy. In the end, I don't think you need to bother since you have BlackBear and the blower company providing tune information. I think even if you were adding VVT to your engine and harness that BlackBear could handle that too.
 

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What if I need to program or update a module?

You'll use a modern computer and access ACDelco's TDS system through your browser window. You can use the Tech-2 as a pass thru device with a laptop out in the truck or like me, I download the vehicle data into the Tech-2 out in the truck. Walk into the house, hook up to my PC, download the calibrations into the Tech-2, walk back out to the truck and program the modules. Done.

You'll never use TIS2000 for a GMT900, it's obsolete for them. You might use it to help someone with an old 800 or 400 or Pontiac Montana or Grand Prix or Grand Am, you know, stuff from the 1990s through the early to mid 2000s. Nothing with the CanBus architecture though.
 

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You'll use a modern computer and access ACDelco's TDS system through your browser window. You can use the Tech-2 as a pass thru device with a laptop out in the truck or like me, I download the vehicle data into the Tech-2 out in the truck. Walk into the house, hook up to my PC, download the calibrations into the Tech-2, walk back out to the truck and program the modules. Done.

You'll never use TIS2000 for a GMT900, it's obsolete for them. You might use it to help someone with an old 800 or 400 or Pontiac Montana or Grand Prix or Grand Am, you know, stuff from the 1990s through the early to mid 2000s. Nothing with the CanBus architecture though.
Thanks.
I own a 2002 envoy and my Father has a 2004 Sierra but it’s not likely that I will need it. I would still like to know it works.

I guess my question is “if I want to use the tis2000 on my windows 10 laptop do I need to run it on a virtual machine running xp?”
 

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Thanks.
I own a 2002 envoy and my Father has a 2004 Sierra but it’s not likely that I will need it. I would still like to know it works.

I guess my question is “if I want to use the tis2000 on my windows 10 laptop do I need to run it on a virtual machine running xp?”

I believe so, but am not 100% sure on that. Might ask the Saab or Corvette guys.
 

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Is your engine an LY5 or LMG? I'm thinking LY5 as the calibrations for my FlexFuel LC9 are different than those listed by that guy. In the end, I don't think you need to bother since you have BlackBear and the blower company providing tune information. I think even if you were adding VVT to your engine and harness that BlackBear could handle that too.
The part of the email that lists the CAL information is a quote from the GM performance website (not from him) Mine is a LMG 2007. Believe VVT didnt come out till a later year. What I was told by the guy was originally there was many engine codes; however in the GM rebuilt market there are only a few; hence the info on the oil pan, valve covers, etc and CAL updates.
My engine for example has an oil level sensor in the oil pan. Replacement engine did not. I used my original oil pan on the new engine.
Yes, i would love to use bbp for my tune but like I mentioned previously they are really backed up. For example, currently, i am sitting at a month waiting on an updated trans / ECU update file from them.
Kinda still would like to know about my original questions. Will i find these CAL #s on the tds. If reprogrammed is it just a "patch persay" or will I be left with a completley new "tune" with all oe specs. Thanks
 

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@kbuskill did you receive a USB stick with your clone? All I got was the five discs in the photo.
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That is all I received as well.

The "cracked" key is on the small disk, along with the "How to install" video.

The install video goes really fast. I just followed along and paused the video after every step and the install went pretty easy. It shows you step by step how to install the software and even how to install the "Key".

The plain white disks are marked 1 and 2 but they had mine reversed in the sleeves.

Disk 1 is the one that has the "Auto Run" application on it. The video will show you when to install the 2nd disk and then later the 3rd (small) disk.
 

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The part of the email that lists the CAL information is a quote from the GM performance website (not from him) Mine is a LMG 2007. Believe VVT didnt come out till a later year. What I was told by the guy was originally there was many engine codes; however in the GM rebuilt market there are only a few; hence the info on the oil pan, valve covers, etc and CAL updates.
My engine for example has an oil level sensor in the oil pan. Replacement engine did not. I used my original oil pan on the new engine.
Yes, i would love to use bbp for my tune but like I mentioned previously they are really backed up. For example, currently, i am sitting at a month waiting on an updated trans / ECU update file from them.
Kinda still would like to know about my original questions. Will i find these CAL #s on the tds. If reprogrammed is it just a "patch persay" or will I be left with a completley new "tune" with all oe specs. Thanks

VVT was introduced in 2010 on the LC9 and LMG 5.3 motors. Well, as to whether or not yours has those calibrations listed, plug your VIN in here and have a look: https://tis2web.service.gm.com/tis2web

I really don't know if it will be a patch or a whole new program.
 
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