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My beloved Yukon has been giving me trouble lately. I posted a thread 1-2weeks ago about my transmission acting up, and it seems that a damaged sunshell is the likely culprit. So I'm in the market for a new transmission.

But to make it worse... the weather is the coldest its been all year and the heater went out so its been cold as balls in the cabin of my truck and defogging the windshield has been a bit of a challenge. I love this truck though so even if it completely fails, I won't get rid of it. I'd spend the money to replace or rebuild the whole drivetrain if I had to.


Wait... there's more.... So as of the last 1 1/2 weeks, my truck has been running much hotter than usual. It never usually rises past the 1/4 mark on the gauge, and maybe 1 or 2 ticks past in stop and go heavy traffic, which is negligable. Lately it rises to the 1/2 way mark or 3/4 mark when I'm stopped, sometimes even getting dangerously close to the redzone. It runs at normal temperature at cruising speeds and highway speeds. Basically as long as I'm moving it will stay right where it should be. I've noticed that the way I apply any gas seems to affect how quickly my temps drop back to normal. The engine fan seems to work properly and there's no obvious play in the fan clutch. I checked on my lunch break for any leaks and the only spot that may have been leaking was the waterpump, but I'm not 100 percent sure. I don't have any white smoke out of the exhaust. Could this have anything to do with my transmission acting up? Could it just be the waterpump? (I could swear I heard the waterpump while I was sitting in traffic, making noises it didn't use to make) I doubt I have any head gasket problems, but I could always check that with a kit to be sure. Any ideas, or step in the right direction?

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ever change the thermostat? still full of coolant? when its running hot is the top radiator hose hot?

sounds exactly like what my camaro does, but its the E-fans on it not turning on at the correct time (or ever sometimes) could be the fan clutch is failing even if its not got play in it. had to replace the one on the tahoe as it was making noise heated up and still felt pretty solid when the truck was cooled off.

did the heater motor go out or the valve on the firewall or the core?
 

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Heater doesn't work... engine running hot...sounds like you are way low on coolant.
 

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yep id change out the thermostat and flush the coolant. better not run it much longer, having air in the system with DEFF burn up your gaskets and cause waayyy more problems then what you need right now.
 
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Well, more specifically, the heater motor went out. Should be any easy fix, but haven't had the time. With the HVAC unit on the hot setting I'm getting hot air in. I'm not low on coolant at all (Naturally, that's the first thing I checked:D). I'll inspect the upper radiator hose while its running and check the temperature. I'll inspect the thermostat as well. I haven't replaced it in my ownership, but it was supposedly replaced about 2 years ago. Wouldn't hurt to just replace it anyways, since its cheap and easy. Anyways I'll check all that crap out and report back. Thanks for the input guys. Of course more info is always appreciated.

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And I'll probably replace the fan clutch too while I'm at it (couldn't hurt either)
 

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Ahhhh. Now were getting somewhere. By heater motor I assume you mean the fan motor. Sunlitcomet posted the remove/replace procedure somewhere here recently. A quick search should find it.

Overheat- I would start with the thermostat first and see where that gets you. As for the fan, I have owned every model year of the 2 door since the new body style and have never heard of these being a problem. But that is just me.
No use spending money when you don't have to.
 
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Yeah, oldsalt, the fan/blower motor is what I meant. Its been cold as shit lately too. I'll have to find the install/removal procedure you mentioned that sunlitcomet posted. I could probably figure it out myself, but it never hurts to RTFM :). So yeah, I'll start with the thermostat and take it from there. And, I agree with you on not spending money when you don't have to. But it is a pretty cheap part and fairly easy to install with the right tools. I guess I'll wait and see.
 
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Well, I checked my upper radiator hose and it was fairly cool and obviously not flowing any coolant even though it should have been at that point, given the temperature. Seems like the thermostat is not doing its job properly and appears to be the culprit. I can get the truck to cool down even at a dead stop in neutral by lightly blipping the throttle a couple times (which seems to force the thermostat to open and flow coolant). So I'm going to run to the parts store during my lunch break, purchase a new thermostat and some coolant, and install the damn thing after work (with a work lamp in the dark...) Anyways, I'll report back with the results.

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Oh, thanks for that link oldsalt, and thanks everyone for the input so far.
 

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Yeah don't feel bad,i think i have to replace the Thermostat in the wifes Mustang.Not cuz its reading to hot,its cuz it reads waaay to cool....Im thinking her T-stat is sticking open.

Sounds like you are on the right track Grimm.
 

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grimm keep in mind that the post thaat oldsalt copied was my 98-99 version of the blower repair document if need a different one let me know. I can't remember what year they switch the blower system over.
 
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I haven't had a chance to go through the link that oldsalt posted. I'm betting the design is pretty similar. I'm sure I can manage without instructions, but if you don't mind posting the 97 repair docs, that'd be great. It never hurts to read the manual :)

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Oh and good luck with your Thermostat issues Danny. With any luck, our shit will be solved by tomorrow morning, haha.
 
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This ******' truck is trying to throw everything it can at me all at once. So I purchased a new thermostat, haven't even installed it yet or messed with anything under the hood yet. I went to fire it up to move it to a prime location to start working on it, and now I have an SES light and what looks like coolant (not 100% sure) splashed all over the vapor canister, near the upper radiator hose. It looks like it came from the radiator, but it was dark when I moved the truck. Now I have to figure out what code its throwing. Damn, this thing is really trying my patience. But I still love it.
 

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Grimm, If it is coolant and there isn't any around the water pump, check to see if your radiator is cracked where the upper hose attaches. I have replaced 2 because of this.

This wouldn't necessarily have anything to do with your overheating or the check engine code.
 

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Thanks for the link sunlit!

Unfortunately, the blower motor will have wait, since my coolant issues take priority. But I'll be sure to look through that document.

Oldsalt, it looks like my radiator may be cracked or leaking. I had trouble starting the truck, trying to move it again to an ideal workspace, almost as if I was running a little lean, but when I finally did get it started, the SES light went off and things were a little smoother. I installed the thermostat a little while before posting this (it's about 5:40am right now and I have to be at work in 3 hours...and haven't slept yet..:emotions122:). Anyhow, the old thermostat was clearly junk and the new one seems to have helped a little, but its still running hot, but not necessarily overheating. It sounds as though there's air in my cooling system, which can't be good at all. Still no signs of coolant in my oil, so I still have my optimism. I guess the next step is replacing the hoses, radiator, flushing the system, and pouring fresh coolant in there. Unless anyone has any other ideas?
 
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Never figured out what code it was throwing. I don't have a scanner in my possession now. But the SES light has stayed off since then (no it didn't burn out as it still lights up for the bulb test prior to starting the car). I ended up flushing out the entire cooling system last night. The upper radiator return plenum had a bunch of old, nasty coolant buildup, which cause the hose to have a bad seal. Ended up cleaning that and the hose, flushing everything out, and pouring in fresh new Dex-Cool. That in conjunction with the new thermostat seems to have cured my over-heating problems. Oil is still nice and clean and the truck hasn't overheated since then, even when sitting in traffic, which makes me happy. So that's good to go now. Just gotta work on the blower motor for the HVAC system now...... and eventually, when money permits, a built transmission.
 

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^ Just an FYI... last winter i replaced my blower motor thinking it was shot.I installed the new BM and i still had nothing,grrrr... I did some research and talked to a few GM nuts,and found out/was told it could just be my "fan speed control switch".I guess its a fairly commen failure.I then got a new switch,installed it and everything worked as it should.

This could be or not be your issue,just wanted to give a heads up.
 

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