BREAKING: GM is officially recalling the L87

[mummer43]

Picoscope procedure bulletin and FAQ. In order to see the documents, right hold and open in new tab then download.

So is this official? Can I now take my Yukon in for the official inspection?

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

So is this official? Can I now take my Yukon in for the official inspection?

Until you receive the recall notice in the mail, you are not “officially” recalled.

 

[mummer43]

I just spoke to the service manager at my local dealer. He said they are opening up the recall in groups according to VIN number. As of today my vehicle hasn’t been “opened” but they are opening up more every day. Once we are “opened” we can take the vehicle in for the inspection.

 

[vcode]

Until you receive the recall notice in the mail, you are not “officially” recalled.

And even then you probably can't take it in. I got my airbag recall in the mail well over a year before they could replace it. They had the parts but had to abide by a strict VIN # sequence. It wasn't a first come first served scenario.

 

[mummer43]

And even then you probably can't take it in. I got my airbag recall in the mail well over a year before they could replace it. They had the parts but had to abide by a strict VIN # sequence. It wasn't a first come first served scenario.

He made it sounds like once my vin# is opened up i can bring it in. He also said GM has authorized dealers to “put people in vehicles” if their engine fails.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

He made it sounds like once my vin# is opened up i can bring it in. He also said GM has authorized dealers to “put people in vehicles” if their engine fails.

Yes, but "Opened Up" is the part that @vcode is saying is the critical piece. GM has a system w/ all the vehicles they have ever produced, called "Investigate Vehicle History." Until GM marks your vehicle as "open" for the recall (right now it may be in "remedy not available"), the dealer can't work on your vehicle...so will be dependent on GM to get it opened up...which is what your dealer was saying.

 

[mummer43]

Yes, but "Opened Up" is the part that @vcode is saying is the critical piece. GM has a system w/ all the vehicles they have ever produced, called "Investigate Vehicle History." Until GM marks your vehicle as "open" for the recall (right now it may be in "remedy not available"), the dealer can't work on your vehicle...so will be dependent on GM to get it opened up...which is what your dealer was saying.

Yes that is basically how he explained it. He told me reach out next week to see if my vehicle is “open” for the recall.

 

[WalleyeMikeIII]

Yes that is basically how he explained it. He told me reach out next week to see if my vehicle is “open” for the recall.

You should be able to watch it on the GM owner center web site, and when it says “open” without the “remedy not available” message, you know you are good

 

[cornicekurt]

There is absolutely no reason to believe that engines with correctly manufactured parts and proper maintenance won't make it to 200K miles. None. There is no evidence of a 100% part defect rate....

Tell me that when these odometers hit 200.

 

[mummer43]

You should be able to watch it on the GM owner center web site, and when it says “open” without the “remedy not available” message, you know you are good

Ahhh, yes I see that now. Thanks!

 

[jfoj]

@vcode

Here is the deal, my 2005 Yukon 6.0l has 275,000 after 20 years. Other than water pump and minor things, the engine and transmission have never been apart. I did a AWD transfer case swap due to a major leak, got a reman unit for around $650 from a good rebuild shop and swapped it myself. At this point this truck owes me nothing. Still drive it almost daily and will not think twice about taking a 12 hour round trip even with this mileage.

I will be HAPPY if my 2024 Yukon L87 makes it to 150,000 without an internal engine failure or transmission failure. I am more worried about the stupid roller lifters making it that far at this point. Overall the DFM is a weak spot, too many moving parts, too many cylinder deactivations. Once the operational count gets beyond a specific number the failure rate goes up quickly.

I do have a Range DFM disabler on the vehicle, but the lifters still seem to collapse under DFCO (Decel with Fuel Cut Off). But I often run around town in L9 as well.

These are the areas I am most worried about:

1. DFM lifters, too fragile, too many potential activations. They are a crap shoot if and when one may fail.
2. The actual roller lifters and history shows that these roller lifter tend to have problems with the needle bearings around 75-100k miles. If you catch is early you might be able to save the camshaft, if not, you will need lifters and a camshaft, not a fun or easy job. Hopefully 0W40 with molly and 4k mile oil changes will reduce this possibility.
3. Transmission, while I am proactively upgrading the valve body at my expense at 8k miles, this is to eliminate the valve body as a future problem. The rest of the transmission, I can only hope that there will be not major hard problems. I plan on changing the transmission fluid every 20k miles. This may not help any hard parts, but should help a bit.
4. I have not heard a lot of rear differential failures, but this may be a later mileage weak spot? Probably need to make numerous differential fluid changes.

 

[vcode]

@vcode

Here is the deal, my 2005 Yukon 6.0l has 275,000 after 20 years. Other than water pump and minor things, the engine and transmission have never been apart. I did a AWD transfer case swap due to a major leak, got a reman unit for around $650 from a good rebuild shop and swapped it myself. At this point this truck owes me nothing. Still drive it almost daily and will not think twice about taking a 12 hour round trip even with this mileage.

I will be HAPPY if my 2024 Yukon L87 makes it to 150,000 without an internal engine failure or transmission failure. I am more worried about the stupid roller lifters making it that far at this point. Overall the DFM is a weak spot, too many moving parts, too many cylinder deactivations. Once the operational count gets beyond a specific number the failure rate goes up quickly.

I do have a Range DFM disabler on the vehicle, but the lifters still seem to collapse under DFCO (Decel with Fuel Cut Off). But I often run around town in L9 as well.

These are the areas I am most worried about:

1. DFM lifters, too fragile, too many potential activations. They are a crap shoot if and when one may fail.
2. The actual roller lifters and history shows that these roller lifter tend to have problems with the needle bearings around 75-100k miles. If you catch is early you might be able to save the camshaft, if not, you will need lifters and a camshaft, not a fun or easy job. Hopefully 0W40 with molly and 4k mile oil changes will reduce this possibility.
3. Transmission, while I am proactively upgrading the valve body at my expense at 8k miles, this is to eliminate the valve body as a future problem. The rest of the transmission, I can only hope that there will be not major hard problems. I plan on changing the transmission fluid every 20k miles. This may not help any hard parts, but should help a bit.
4. I have not heard a lot of rear differential failures, but this may be a later mileage weak spot? Probably need to make numerous differential fluid changes.

Front diffs were a problem circa 2010? I know mine was rebuilt under warranty at 50K miles.

 

[viven44]

Anybody that has experienced failures please make sure to fill in your details in the link below

GM V8 Engine Defect Lawsuit – Cheeley Law Group

Video below is where I found it

 

[BADRIDES]

He made it sounds like once my vin# is opened up i can bring it in. He also said GM has authorized dealers to “put people in vehicles” if their engine fails.

Only way you get a vehicle at my dealership is if you bought your vehicle from my dealership. My owners are the owners of the rental vehicles NOT GM. Plus we are ONLY gonna work on Chevrolets and NO Gmc's or Cadillac's during this recall.

 

[Kaminski]

How can your dealership not follow the stated coverage by GM for another vehicle? Is GM going to foot the bill for rentals then?

 

[BADRIDES]

How can your dealership not follow the stated coverage by GM for another vehicle? Is GM going to foot the bill for rentals then?

Cause my owners said they own the loaner cars NOT GM and they arent giving out cars to people that didnt buy from us. And if they are only paying 18.6 hours under warranty to do an engine replace then your gonna have dealerships and technicians not happy. You better take your car back to the dealership that you bought it from during this recall. I have talked to other service writers at other dealerships and a lot of them feel the same way about working on other brands or cars that werent bought from them.

 

[PPV_2018]

Cause my owners said they own the loaner cars NOT GM and they arent giving out cars to people that didnt buy from us. And if they are only paying 18.6 hours under warranty to do an engine replace then your gonna have dealerships and technicians not happy. You better take your car back to the dealership that you bought it from during this recall. I have talked to other service writers at other dealerships and a lot of them feel the same way about working on other brands or cars that werent bought from them.

Pretty cavalier attitude your “owners” have.. as if they haven’t been ripping off people on finance deals since day one but can’t provide loaner cars and refuse to do GMC or Cadillacs? What if i bought from out of state but now live 5 minutes away from your dealer? Lmao got the feeling GM will be terminating your franchise contract and it’ll be jimbob’s tote-the-note lot before long.

Recall work is part of the deal. Your franchise agreement is like marriage, for better or worse. I’m sure you guys love wearing the brand badge when everyone wants to buy one , but are sour now that there’s a debacle.

 

[mummer43]

Only way you get a vehicle at my dealership is if you bought your vehicle from my dealership. My owners are the owners of the rental vehicles NOT GM. Plus we are ONLY gonna work on Chevrolets and NO Gmc's or Cadillac's during this recall

And GM would be ok with this? People buy vehicles outside of their area all the time. Or buy a vehicle then move. This is a national recall and you should do the recall no matter where the vehicle was purchased. I do kind of understand not doing other "brands" if you are a Chevy dealer. I'm not taking my Yukon to anything but a GMC dealer.

 

[22BlackDenali]

Picoscope procedure bulletin and FAQ. In order to see the documents, right hold and open in new tab then download.

Do you think having 0W-40 in the engine during Pico test could mute some of the findings and potentially keep you from getting a new engine when you actually need one?

 

[Scagsdale]

These vehicles aren't getting the MPG city and highway that's on window sticker anyway.

My unit gets pretty close to the advertised mileage.