Camaro SS, track trips, build pics etc.
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Didn't get a ton done this weekend. Had a buddy who needed his 10 bolt rebuilt so I did that for him as a favor. I did get to do a few things, the kit came in late Saturday evening minus intercooler. Randy wrapped the hot-side with fiberglass wrap. I threw some high heat paint on it. Whether it will bake into it, or turn into a smoky mess when it heats up I couldn't tell you. Guess we will find out. I also clocked the turbo where the output faces correctly (forward and down) and drilled and tapped the outlet for the wastegate feed. Huron Speed said just pull the signal from the manifold but that doesn't seem to be recommended so I added one on the turbo outlet. I did a quick mock up, slightly bent the PS lines, and the hotside pipe fit fantastic. Love the extra room standing the radiator up gave me.
I ordered some filters and plan on swapping to the rotella oil after a few heat cycles and before any heavy boost. Also have to replace the coolant tank due to the extra thick hose putting pressure on it and cracking the bottom. I am also going to a lighter duty hose to prevent this error in the future.
Found this guy wandering around. No clue how his wings got so messed up.
Intercooler "should" be here any day and i still need to build the exhaust (likely wrap it as well) and buy a belt. It will be running and driving very soon!
I ordered some filters and plan on swapping to the rotella oil after a few heat cycles and before any heavy boost. Also have to replace the coolant tank due to the extra thick hose putting pressure on it and cracking the bottom. I am also going to a lighter duty hose to prevent this error in the future.
Found this guy wandering around. No clue how his wings got so messed up.
Intercooler "should" be here any day and i still need to build the exhaust (likely wrap it as well) and buy a belt. It will be running and driving very soon!
Intercooler showed up and I had to do a quick mockup just for fun. Brackets fit nice.
The pic above with the turbo mounted.....it was just barely bolted on. Here's why. Not thrilled I had to pull it back off.
Here is my solution. I red locktited them into the flange, time will tell if it holds or not.
Mocked it up on the table to save me some work laying under the car.
Final mount-up, got the alternator mounted up top also.
All the coldside done, it lacks a belt at this point to be running.
Got the tubular bumper support to work with the intercooler....it required some minor trimming.
They said 73 inch belt, that turned out to be too long. Ive got a 71 on there now but its a smidge too tight but will work for the moment. The stock tensioner gets relocated to where the alternator used to be, and the iron blocks dont have one of the holes for the mount. I ended up grabbing the side bolt hole and making a bracket from scratch, and so far its holding good.
You can see the bumper was already cut for airflow to the trans cooler, but i wanted to trim it more. This is what I started with.
This is how it ended up.
What do you do when you want your exhaust tip centered but dont have anyone to help you?? Well you electrical tape bolts to the dang thing. Made great spacers.
Turned out nice I think. I did go back and paint the hanger/frame red.
Piece to the front brake line. I found it crushed and replaced it. No clue how that happened but glad i saw it.
Ive got the segment swap done, and the 3bar VE with real time tuning, which Ive been playing with and its cool as shit. It was fighting me all day but i believe I had incorrectly input some of the injector data. I was starting to make some progress but ran out of daylight. It also added some fuel to the oil (running pig rich) so I got that crap out of there and put the Rotella in. Motor purrs and is very smooth but now Im showing no oil PSI, Im thinking my chinese sending unit didnt like the e85 oil. But, no leaks, and Ive heat cycled it about 5 times. Fuel psi crept down to 50 psi? So i dialed it back up to 60. Little crap now at this point.
The pic above with the turbo mounted.....it was just barely bolted on. Here's why. Not thrilled I had to pull it back off.
Here is my solution. I red locktited them into the flange, time will tell if it holds or not.
Mocked it up on the table to save me some work laying under the car.
Final mount-up, got the alternator mounted up top also.
All the coldside done, it lacks a belt at this point to be running.
Got the tubular bumper support to work with the intercooler....it required some minor trimming.
They said 73 inch belt, that turned out to be too long. Ive got a 71 on there now but its a smidge too tight but will work for the moment. The stock tensioner gets relocated to where the alternator used to be, and the iron blocks dont have one of the holes for the mount. I ended up grabbing the side bolt hole and making a bracket from scratch, and so far its holding good.
You can see the bumper was already cut for airflow to the trans cooler, but i wanted to trim it more. This is what I started with.
This is how it ended up.
What do you do when you want your exhaust tip centered but dont have anyone to help you?? Well you electrical tape bolts to the dang thing. Made great spacers.
Turned out nice I think. I did go back and paint the hanger/frame red.
Piece to the front brake line. I found it crushed and replaced it. No clue how that happened but glad i saw it.
Ive got the segment swap done, and the 3bar VE with real time tuning, which Ive been playing with and its cool as shit. It was fighting me all day but i believe I had incorrectly input some of the injector data. I was starting to make some progress but ran out of daylight. It also added some fuel to the oil (running pig rich) so I got that crap out of there and put the Rotella in. Motor purrs and is very smooth but now Im showing no oil PSI, Im thinking my chinese sending unit didnt like the e85 oil. But, no leaks, and Ive heat cycled it about 5 times. Fuel psi crept down to 50 psi? So i dialed it back up to 60. Little crap now at this point.
Well I figured I was tuning this week but it just didnt work out that way. While working on the idle tuning i noticed the oil psi showed zero. I honestly didnt think much of it because the motor was very quiet and I knew i used a chinese sending unit. When the turbo started blipping oil out of the exhaust i figured i better investigate. Yep, mechanical gauge showed 5 psi. Hoping for a pinched pickup o ring i drained the oil and filter. When pouring the filter out I noticed specs of trash coming out of it. So I cut it open to investigate further. Whoops.
New oil, new filter and Ive got 70 psi again. I decided to check reverse and see if she could back into the yard and sunbathe for the day.
I need to put the hood back on but it bothers me my stickers are now inaccurate. So I decided to go ahead and clean the underside of the hood and dig in my sticker stash to keep things updated. Also, the black above the Cam Motion sticker was where i had some foam tape to keep the clear lid from rubbing the hood. Glad that can finally go away.
Here's the new sticker arrangement. Pic is a little washed out but you can see Aeromotive, circle D, autometer, transgo, turbosmart, msd, hptunders, and sje were all added.
Hood and headlights are back on, and i also glued the tab for the rearview mirror to the lexan front windshield. We will see if it holds, and I hope it does because you cant see shit out of the tiny side mirrors. The brake pedal is ROCK hard. I'm going to give it a fair chance however if it proves to be miserable stopping the car I will admit defeat and go back to the booster. And we do know at minimum reverse and first work in the trans because it pulled itself back in no problem. You can also see the shock tower bar I added, not for looks but because the front lexan is lifting slightly and I believe its from cowl twist. This should help, I also added more screws to the lower edge. Next, we terrorize the neighborhood.
New oil, new filter and Ive got 70 psi again. I decided to check reverse and see if she could back into the yard and sunbathe for the day.
I need to put the hood back on but it bothers me my stickers are now inaccurate. So I decided to go ahead and clean the underside of the hood and dig in my sticker stash to keep things updated. Also, the black above the Cam Motion sticker was where i had some foam tape to keep the clear lid from rubbing the hood. Glad that can finally go away.
Here's the new sticker arrangement. Pic is a little washed out but you can see Aeromotive, circle D, autometer, transgo, turbosmart, msd, hptunders, and sje were all added.
Hood and headlights are back on, and i also glued the tab for the rearview mirror to the lexan front windshield. We will see if it holds, and I hope it does because you cant see shit out of the tiny side mirrors. The brake pedal is ROCK hard. I'm going to give it a fair chance however if it proves to be miserable stopping the car I will admit defeat and go back to the booster. And we do know at minimum reverse and first work in the trans because it pulled itself back in no problem. You can also see the shock tower bar I added, not for looks but because the front lexan is lifting slightly and I believe its from cowl twist. This should help, I also added more screws to the lower edge. Next, we terrorize the neighborhood.
iamdub
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Is there enough space on the backside of that turbo flange (the manifold side) to thread on some nuts? My point is if the Loc-Tite doesn't hold (that's a hot place!) and the threads alone aren't clamping enough, maybe you could run a longer thread through there and have nuts on both ends. Could even shave a nut down a little if it's too wide.
So the LAST non-running update.....as I've indicated, I've been having some tuning issues with the car. Quite frankly, it wont hardly run, wont hardly idle, barely starts sometimes, and wont rev clean in park. I have been trying everything I can to figure it out, and nothing I change makes a difference. Saturday I finally decided to swap the MAP sensor out with a stock truck unit. My reasoning was, even though I was seeing 105kpa with the engine off, I was only getting 65-80kpa during revs which didnt seem right (remember I dont tune for a living). Well the truck MAP spanned almost the entire 0-105kpa scale and allowed me to make corrections that it actually responded to. With a single VE correction i had it revving to redline smoothly, SUCCESS!! My buddy Randy who gave me the intake had another 3bar MAP for me to try, and guess what, it worked. So I got a janky sensor out of the box. I'm going to use his sensor in the meantime to get the tuning done this week. Since the old lady is off, i plan on letting her be the passenger seat laptop holder <<<<--insert evil grin.
Wanting to put a master list together for anyone duplicating any part of this.
Turbo kit: Huron Speed
http://shop.huronspeedproducts.com/Huron-Speed-V1-Truck-Manifold-Single-T4-Turbo-Kit-v1TMkit.htm
Wastegate: TurboSmart 45mm TS-0506-1002
http://www.turbosmartdirect.com/Product-Categories/45mm-HyperGate/WG45-Hypergate-45-7psi-Black.html
Boost Controller: TurboSmart TS-0106-1002
http://www.turbosmartdirect.com/Pro...trollers/In-Cabin-Boost-Controller-Black.html
Fuel Pumps: Chrs1313 dual 450s
http://www.speedinc.com/chrs1313-dual-450-fuel-pump-setup-fbody-99-02-drop-in-tank.html
Belt: 71.5" 6 rib off ebay (715k6)
Oil Pressure Sending unit: PS303
Oil Filter: Wix 51042
Coolant Overflow: Dorman 603-001
Vacuum lines: Sickspeed brand, 10m of 6mm, 5 foot of 10mm from ebay
Fuel Pressure Gauge: Marshall MNB00100 from ebay
Fuel Lines and fittings: All from ttfitting on ebay
Vacuum caps: Dorman 41050
IAC Valve: AC234
Throttle Body: WARR W92LS-VP
e85 tester: Fuel-It
Exhaust tip: 3 to 3.5", seller xtips4u on ebay
PCV: 8ft of -10 AN from ttfitting
12 bolt cover gasket: 5104R
Wideband extension Harness: Autometer 5252
Collector Copper Gasket: ACE Gasket 4210
Hose clamps: Russell 650990
Exhaust wrap: 2" wide from seller wzho3115 on ebay
Exhaust Flange stud Kit: Dorman 03133
Heater hose bypass: from seller mtmills on ebay
4l80e tailshaft seal: Feiock Performance FP 400RS2700
Fuel Filter: From seller le_ji84 on ebay (China delivery)
Fuel Y Split: Z122N from seller fassterllc
Boost Gauge: Autometer 2614
Pushrods: Summit/Jegs brand 7.400
Vacuum Block: SickSpeed 2016
Fuel Pressure Regulator: Aeromotive 13303
Low Oil Sensor blockoff: ICT Billet
Flexplate: ATP z-270
4l80e AN Fittings: from sweet_performance on ebay
1/8 NPT Weldable Steel Bung: ATM 2260
4l80e Service Kit: Oregon Performance Transmission
4l80e Forged Yoke: PST brand bought from Midwest Chassis
-10 AN Fitting for valvecover: WARR brand
Pinion Seal: Ratech 6109
Turbo Oil feed fitting: PRE-60416BLK
Plug Wires: MSD 32829
Plugs: NGK 3346 gapped at 22
Knock Sensor: AC Delco 213-3521
Coolant Sensor: AC Delco 213-4514
CatchCan: from seller ael-supply on ebay
Fuel Rails: Z967 from seller fassterllc on ebay
Lifters and trays: from seller panthersales on ebay
Oil Pump: Melling 10295
Head Gasket: GM 12622033
Head Studs: Speedmaster
Valve Springs: Alper-Motorsports PEP PSK658-8-7
Injectors: Bosch 127
https://www.texas-speed.com/p-3976-fic-127lb-bosch-high-impedance-injectors.aspx
Exhaust bumper Trim: MotionRaceWorksLLC
Converter: Circle D Triple disc
http://www.circledspecialties.com/4l80e-pro-series-258mm
4l80e conversion harness: Nelson Performance
http://www.nelsonperformance.com/80e-conversion-harness
Map Sensor: EFI Source
http://www.efisource.com/shop/ls1-style-3-bar-map-sensor/
See anything I missed let me know.
Wanting to put a master list together for anyone duplicating any part of this.
Turbo kit: Huron Speed
http://shop.huronspeedproducts.com/Huron-Speed-V1-Truck-Manifold-Single-T4-Turbo-Kit-v1TMkit.htm
Wastegate: TurboSmart 45mm TS-0506-1002
http://www.turbosmartdirect.com/Product-Categories/45mm-HyperGate/WG45-Hypergate-45-7psi-Black.html
Boost Controller: TurboSmart TS-0106-1002
http://www.turbosmartdirect.com/Pro...trollers/In-Cabin-Boost-Controller-Black.html
Fuel Pumps: Chrs1313 dual 450s
http://www.speedinc.com/chrs1313-dual-450-fuel-pump-setup-fbody-99-02-drop-in-tank.html
Belt: 71.5" 6 rib off ebay (715k6)
Oil Pressure Sending unit: PS303
Oil Filter: Wix 51042
Coolant Overflow: Dorman 603-001
Vacuum lines: Sickspeed brand, 10m of 6mm, 5 foot of 10mm from ebay
Fuel Pressure Gauge: Marshall MNB00100 from ebay
Fuel Lines and fittings: All from ttfitting on ebay
Vacuum caps: Dorman 41050
IAC Valve: AC234
Throttle Body: WARR W92LS-VP
e85 tester: Fuel-It
Exhaust tip: 3 to 3.5", seller xtips4u on ebay
PCV: 8ft of -10 AN from ttfitting
12 bolt cover gasket: 5104R
Wideband extension Harness: Autometer 5252
Collector Copper Gasket: ACE Gasket 4210
Hose clamps: Russell 650990
Exhaust wrap: 2" wide from seller wzho3115 on ebay
Exhaust Flange stud Kit: Dorman 03133
Heater hose bypass: from seller mtmills on ebay
4l80e tailshaft seal: Feiock Performance FP 400RS2700
Fuel Filter: From seller le_ji84 on ebay (China delivery)
Fuel Y Split: Z122N from seller fassterllc
Boost Gauge: Autometer 2614
Pushrods: Summit/Jegs brand 7.400
Vacuum Block: SickSpeed 2016
Fuel Pressure Regulator: Aeromotive 13303
Low Oil Sensor blockoff: ICT Billet
Flexplate: ATP z-270
4l80e AN Fittings: from sweet_performance on ebay
1/8 NPT Weldable Steel Bung: ATM 2260
4l80e Service Kit: Oregon Performance Transmission
4l80e Forged Yoke: PST brand bought from Midwest Chassis
-10 AN Fitting for valvecover: WARR brand
Pinion Seal: Ratech 6109
Turbo Oil feed fitting: PRE-60416BLK
Plug Wires: MSD 32829
Plugs: NGK 3346 gapped at 22
Knock Sensor: AC Delco 213-3521
Coolant Sensor: AC Delco 213-4514
CatchCan: from seller ael-supply on ebay
Fuel Rails: Z967 from seller fassterllc on ebay
Lifters and trays: from seller panthersales on ebay
Oil Pump: Melling 10295
Head Gasket: GM 12622033
Head Studs: Speedmaster
Valve Springs: Alper-Motorsports PEP PSK658-8-7
Injectors: Bosch 127
https://www.texas-speed.com/p-3976-fic-127lb-bosch-high-impedance-injectors.aspx
Exhaust bumper Trim: MotionRaceWorksLLC
Converter: Circle D Triple disc
http://www.circledspecialties.com/4l80e-pro-series-258mm
4l80e conversion harness: Nelson Performance
http://www.nelsonperformance.com/80e-conversion-harness
Map Sensor: EFI Source
http://www.efisource.com/shop/ls1-style-3-bar-map-sensor/
See anything I missed let me know.
iamdub
Full Access Member
I saw this thread had a new post by you and popped a ***** thinking it contained a running vid. Then the first sentence reads "non-running update"- ***** deactivated. Then got some tingling down there again with you talking about fixing it and having it rev smoothly to redline. Then saw the end of the post- still with no video. Aaaaaaand now comes the blue balls.
I guess I'm gonna have to go to 1320video.com and fap to some turbo'ed LS vids to do some blow-off valve popping of my own.
I guess I'm gonna have to go to 1320video.com and fap to some turbo'ed LS vids to do some blow-off valve popping of my own.
My BOV isnt currently opening, clarify, the lightweight spring kept it open at idle, the stiff spring is too stiff.....so I need to cut some coils off of it before i even get to hear it!!!! Its all the bullcrap thats holding me up....Video on next update!!!
Well this is a depressing update with a happy ending. Go back to the oil pressure issues. I figured out the black junk was from the rocker arms, it was flaking off, so that was accounted for being in the filter. The car was running good and AFR wasnt bad so we went on a drive, after a couple of quick reflashes she went into boost for the first time. Holy ****** of God. The pull at 7 psi on the wastegate spring is retarded. I am officially in love with boost. After experiencing this glory one friggen time, the oil pressure tanked again. Luckily we were close to home and I limped it there, and swapped filters again. All back to normal. So I go on about tuning some more and even gave a couple test rides to friends (no traction from a roll), and on my final drive of yesterday it happened.......we buzzed the neighbors standing outside with the turbo whirl and the BOV pop, made a pull and it was there.......a rod knock. After examining all top end components i crawled under and pulled the filter and it was clogged with metal debris. I believe the previous two had been also I just saw it to be dark and assumed it was sludge. So we are gonna make the best of it, and go back with an aluminum block this go round to shave some weight. I know this motor didnt run long but damn was it glorious when it did.
To note, the brakes are growing on me some, the converter from circle D feels perfect, I can build boost quickly, I was even able to footbrake to 3k on a dusty blacktop road so that has a lot of potential and my trans cooling is not adequate. Ive got a sister cooler and fan on the way and will be doubling cooling capacity while maintaining the rearmount cooler setup. Also, the BOV with the lightweight spring was staying open at idle, and with the heavy spring would not open at all. This is what i did to the heavy spring to make it work correctly.
Side info, I was pretty disgusted with the situation so I made the best of it and put some new cabinets and microwave in the Camaro's corner of the garage. I may run a dedicated outlet for the microwave but for now just ran a cord to it. This is a hangout spot for us LS guys to hatch our devious racecar plans where the womenfolk cant find about it! Pretty nice cabinets for being store bought home depot thingys.
New motor to come grrrrrrr.
To note, the brakes are growing on me some, the converter from circle D feels perfect, I can build boost quickly, I was even able to footbrake to 3k on a dusty blacktop road so that has a lot of potential and my trans cooling is not adequate. Ive got a sister cooler and fan on the way and will be doubling cooling capacity while maintaining the rearmount cooler setup. Also, the BOV with the lightweight spring was staying open at idle, and with the heavy spring would not open at all. This is what i did to the heavy spring to make it work correctly.
Side info, I was pretty disgusted with the situation so I made the best of it and put some new cabinets and microwave in the Camaro's corner of the garage. I may run a dedicated outlet for the microwave but for now just ran a cord to it. This is a hangout spot for us LS guys to hatch our devious racecar plans where the womenfolk cant find about it! Pretty nice cabinets for being store bought home depot thingys.
New motor to come grrrrrrr.
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