Advice: Options to avoid?

[WillCO]

Personally, I find the mechanical suspension to be fine. If you really wanted to, you could probably upgrade the sway bars and the struts for $1500 or so; I just haven't seen the need.

I avoided the magnothremalsensodynochronomotojustable suspension because I'd just had a similar high-tech suspension on my last BMW. It was a complete bust in that it had three settings - "Sport" (soft), "Normal" (softer) and "Comfort" (untenably soft). $3500 option on that car. Awful.

Years ago I had an Audi with the adjustable air suspension. At about 75,000 miles the air reservoirs started to go, at about $1300 per corner to fix.

I have plenty of experience with high-tech suspensions, all of it bad. I pass on those now.

 

[sickk23]

I avoided the magnothremalsensodynochronomotojustable suspension because I'd just had a similar high-tech suspension on my last BMW. It was a complete bust in that it had three settings - "Sport" (soft), "Normal" (softer) and "Comfort" (untenably soft). $3500 option on that car. Awful.

Most BMWs have 3 to 4 Suspension choices, my 2016 X5 had the $950 adaptive M suspension. It was awesome and I wouldn’t have gone without it. The one I test drove without felt like you were riding on bumpstops with blown shocks.

I prefer MRC, it controls a lot of the flopping and wallowing. I’d hate to drive a burb/XL that felt like a literal boat on water. But like anything, the system turns into additional maintenance/expenses.

Everyone has their own preferences, wants and must haves. But some options are more useful than others. Like the smart key. Is remote start standard now?

 

[dbbd1]

I prefer MRC, it controls a lot of the flopping and wallowing. I’d have to drive a burb/XL that felt like a literal boat on water.

That might be remedied by the sway bars and struts/shocks as noted above, though.


Again, it all a personal choice thing though...

 

[sickk23]

That might be remedied by the sway bars and struts/shocks as noted above, though.


Again, it all a personal choice thing though...

It definitely is a personal choice, I prefer on the firm side. Not worn out suspension feeling..

I doubt sway bars can help. I had a few different LT Tahoe’s for loaners a few times. Pulling into a parking spot when you’d stop, it’d rock. Squishy squishy. I don’t think sway bars or stiff performance tires can help the affects from soft shocks and springs. Something that MRC definitely helps with.

If I were to keep my vehicles past 50k miles (which I don’t) MRC would make me nervous, admittedly because it’s not uncommon to run these things past 200k miles like nothing. And I’m sure the suspension would be your first issue.

 

[WillCO]

Most BMWs have 3 to 4 Suspension choices, my 2016 X5 had the $950 adaptive M suspension. It was awesome and I wouldn’t have gone without it. The one I test drove without felt like you were riding on bumpstops with blown shocks.

I prefer MRC, it controls a lot of the flopping and wallowing. I’d hate to drive a burb/XL that felt like a literal boat on water. But like anything, the system turns into additional maintenance/expenses.

Everyone has their own preferences, wants and must haves. But some options are more useful than others. Like the smart key. Is remote start standard now?

Mine was a 2013 F10 535 with the Dynamic Handling Package - which (and I absolutely am not trying to compete) is a more robust suspension product over there than the Adaptive M suspension is.

I had a 2005 E60 545 with a mechanical sport suspension and then the 2013 F10 with DHP. Every minute, every day, all week, the E60 was the better handling car. Not close. I had 3 BMWs in a row, and the F10 was a huge letdown.

I don't feel a lot of "flopping and wallowing" but it's a matter of what a person is used to. If you drive up in a Porsche Cayman and climb into a Tahoe, the Tahoe is going to drive big. If you drive the Tahoe every day, it feels like your car and you stop noticing the size. Which again is why I think the fancy suspensions are gimmicks.

 

[sickk23]

If you drive up in a Porsche Cayman and climb into a Tahoe, the Tahoe is going to drive big. If you drive the Tahoe every day, it feels like your car and you stop noticing the size. Which again is why I think the fancy suspensions are gimmicks.

But I was going from a suburban with MRC to a Tahoe without it and the Tahoe definitely felt bigger and floppier every time. So the Porsche argument is rather irrelevant.

And FWIW I don’t know anyone who was impressed with the way the F10 drove. It was a bunk platform. Same with the F15 and why it’s not getting an LCI.

 

[WillCO]

And FWIW I don’t know anyone who was impressed with the way the F10 drove. It was a bunk platform.

Yes, that part is right. We're not going to agree on the MRC value. I'll stop spending time on it.

 

[GTNator]

Skip the 22” wheels. Lots of options are built into the trim packages. We went with the Denali and it been “ok”, but I dread taking our snow tires/ rims off and installing the 22’s on stock rubber. The ride is dramatically worse.

Also, I went Denali for the 6.2 and 8 speed trans. At 42k now and I’m less than thrilled with the trans. Not sure if the 5.3/6 speed is better. I do love the power of the 6.2 though. Looks like the 18’s get a 10 speed now.

Why don’t you like the 8 speed?


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[GTNator]

Live a little guys, just get all the options, lol.


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[olyelr]

Why don’t you like the 8 speed?


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Not sure why this member dosnt. My wife went from a ‘15 slt (6 speed) to a ‘16 Denali with the 8 speed. The 8 speed is hands down better in every way. Not sure if it has anything to do with the 6.2 vs the 5.3 or not, but the 8 speed in her car shifts fantastic and just floats along at all speeds. I am willing to bet the 10 speed is even better yet.