Denali132
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Looking to buy new 2017 Yukon
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Hayseed_Yukon
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Have wanted one for a few years now. Looking at a loaded up Yukon Denali. Drove a few - some had the buffeting immediately. Scared me off so I bought a Rover. Kept it for a brief stint and then went to look at the Denali again. But because of the buffeting issue still present, I went with a Jaguar. GM needs to get their act together and fix this issue. Hard telling how much money they have lost on fixing current customers and also on lost sales.
possible given the denali has been available since spring of 2014....and if he/she is still set on one. I know I've waited for '16 and '17 model run to trade our 15 XL in and have yet to do it as the buffeting has not been fixed.
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cardude2000
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Rover is an exceedingly better looking vehicle (unless you're talking about the LR) but it's just too small and the 3rd row (special order) is tiny.
Yukon John
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Once you pick a dealer that knows their business...have them check with the Arlington (Dallas) plant for what units are shipping with which options to another dealer near you. Your dealer can arrange a dealer "swap" and secure the vehicle you want.
We wanted a SLE standard wheel base with Max Tow option (around $500 MSRP). Max Tow gets the 3.42 gears, automatic air leveling, trailer brake controler as well as heavier PPV brakes, engine and transmission coolers and a few more goodies. I don't think you can buy 3.42s w/o the Max Tow...but at $500 it's a deal.
Our dealer here in Ft. Lauderdale found a truck being shipped to a dealer in Tampa and arranged the deal. We ended up with Max Tow, a Safety and Convenience Package as well as a paint upgrade. Our net before tax was around $47K on a 2016 with 20" wheels. We added $1900 thru the dealer to have Katzkin Leather seats added. We went thru Costco and also got a $700 cash card from them which bought the 1st 12 tanks of gasoline. Our MSRP was about $53k. To have gotten memory seats we would have jumped to the SLT trim package which adds about $6500...not worth it to us...but I still wish we had them.
Believe me...getting the 3.42 gears vs the 3.08s really wakes these Yukons/Tahoes with 5.3 engines up. They are very responsive around town and actually fun to drive.
Good luck.
We wanted a SLE standard wheel base with Max Tow option (around $500 MSRP). Max Tow gets the 3.42 gears, automatic air leveling, trailer brake controler as well as heavier PPV brakes, engine and transmission coolers and a few more goodies. I don't think you can buy 3.42s w/o the Max Tow...but at $500 it's a deal.
Our dealer here in Ft. Lauderdale found a truck being shipped to a dealer in Tampa and arranged the deal. We ended up with Max Tow, a Safety and Convenience Package as well as a paint upgrade. Our net before tax was around $47K on a 2016 with 20" wheels. We added $1900 thru the dealer to have Katzkin Leather seats added. We went thru Costco and also got a $700 cash card from them which bought the 1st 12 tanks of gasoline. Our MSRP was about $53k. To have gotten memory seats we would have jumped to the SLT trim package which adds about $6500...not worth it to us...but I still wish we had them.
Believe me...getting the 3.42 gears vs the 3.08s really wakes these Yukons/Tahoes with 5.3 engines up. They are very responsive around town and actually fun to drive.
Good luck.
Laura has fantastic pricing, bought my 2015 Denali from them. I have the 8 speed, standard wheelbase and 22" wheels and have zero buffeting issues. I have a close friend who owns a Ford dealer and I could have scored a sick deal on an Expedition but the outgoing design is super long in the tooth. The new model looks great and if it follows the line of the new F150 and Super duty line, it will be a serious contender.
K2 Kaiju
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Im serious, most of these issues are complete bs. I drove a 2016 ltz tahoe xmas 2015. I expected to hear earth shattering sonic booms from the feedback I have seen. Honestly, I was surprised to feel it was a complete non issue. Great ride. I had an 06 4runner sport with more boom from rear well going over bumps. This is what people are crying about; booming from bumps. Its called an suv suspension. Try driving an oddessy head on into a tahoe @ 75mph and see who walks away. I only kept my avy because it still rode better, and seemed more open inside the front row. Plus its bad ass...
Now about the gears, 3.08 are fine for 6 speed as the first gear is super low - 3.42 isnt faster off line without a trailer. I have not only owned both, but I have switched out 3.08 to 3.42 in my 11 avy for towing a boat. My 13 is 3.42. About 40 miles a tank difference after I switched gears on the 11.
If you are looking at an LS, you will have lesss issues with tech. The cloth is easy to clean, and I would say more durable than the sleather gm uses. GM trucks are easily 250k mile vehicles with minimal maintence, so dont listen to "researchers" who never owned one...
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Now about the gears, 3.08 are fine for 6 speed as the first gear is super low - 3.42 isnt faster off line without a trailer. I have not only owned both, but I have switched out 3.08 to 3.42 in my 11 avy for towing a boat. My 13 is 3.42. About 40 miles a tank difference after I switched gears on the 11.
If you are looking at an LS, you will have lesss issues with tech. The cloth is easy to clean, and I would say more durable than the sleather gm uses. GM trucks are easily 250k mile vehicles with minimal maintence, so dont listen to "researchers" who never owned one...
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sure...all BS. That's why the 15+ GMC/CHevy/caddy SUVS have been the most bought back vehicle for GM to date!
Tell that to the hundreds or thousands of folks dealing with lemons and buybacks surrounding the vibration and buffeting issues over the past 3yrs. It's a well known 3yr problem. Hell, there are even published magazine articles surrounding the issue, so to state "it's all BS" couldn't be further from the truth.
After talking to several GM engineers when dealing with our buffeting, they all admit it's a big issue and thus far they are only able to mask the problem. Like I've said many times, there's a reason why they (15+ models) made the top 10 unreliable/most serviced vehicle.
I personally have attempted to trade our 15 XL in several times for a 16 and 17, but have yet to find one free of the buffeting. I've probably been in 20+ yukons, tahoes, escalades and have found very few that would be acceptable to me and those were only the short version. I may see what the 18s bring, but will most likely go with a different brand this summer/fall. And this is someone that has had an 07 Tahoe, 09 burb, and 2012 traverse prior to the 15 yukon XL. This 15 is definitely a love hate truck. sometimes it serves it's purpose while most of the time, we can't wait to get out of it after long trips due to it literally giving some headaches.
BTW, the booming is a known issue as well but far down the list for me. Plus, the redesign exhaust fixed that problem. For the pre 17 models, there is a TSB to add dampers that eliminate most of the low speed booming sensation.
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"Researchers" who never owned one......well I'm not drinking the same GM kook aid you are, but I have owned:
2015 1500 z71 crew 4wd 5.3/6sp
2012 Traverse 2wd (wife)
2010 1500 2wd crew LT 5.3/6sp
2010 2500hd crew 6.0
2005 2500hd crew duramax
2005 1500 ext cab z71
2001 1500 ext cab z71
2004 Tahoe 2wd LT
2-1998 4wd suburban 1500's 5.7/4sp (hunting rigs)
I've also owned my share of Ford and Dodge pickups since 1998 also, so I'm not some die hard supporter of any of them. The most problematic vehicles I've ever had were the '10 and '15 Chevy trucks listed above. Gm trucks and suv's in my opinion were better built and better driving in terms of engine and tranny on the pre 2010 models before they changed to the 6sp auto, and even better on the pre 2007 models that had no AFM.
I've not driven a 2015+ SUV that had any buffeting or "booming" that was enough to bother me personally. I have driven one that had a very noticeable vibration, a Tahoe, which acted exactly like the people here and elsewhere describe the vibration issues they have encountered. I've also had my fair share of quirky transmission/AFM issues on the '10 and '15 pickups listed above, so I do believe 100% that AFM is total junk and unnecessary given the extremely marginal benefits (if any) that it may provide. It sounds like you also believe that the 3.08 is not satisfactory unless the vehicle will never tow, as you said you re-geared your avalanche to 3.42. A 3.08 is great for the consumer that will ever ever haul more than groceries, and will never go up at all in tire size, but if left with a choice, I'd recommend anyone to a 3.42. My 3.42 pickup with a whopping total of 3000lbs behind it screamed and shifted like crazy on interstate drives in the southeast, so common sense says a 3.08 would be noticeably worse.
I had factory cloth in my 2010 pickup, which was total garbage, collected lint like it was designed to do just that and held in any strong smells that ever got into the truck (food, wet clothes). It was my first and last vehicle that left the dealership with cloth seats. Cloth by most manufacturers is more difficult to remove stains/spills than leather. As for long term durability of one vs other I haven't the slightest clue and don't plan to find out, because that would require me to run a truck with cloth seats for a while.
