Billsteins With DJM Arms?

M Hankel · Jun 5, 2012

Anyone running Billstein shocks with the DJM lowering arms? If so, got a part number for them? Always had great luck with Billstein shocks and I like the way they ride.

A part number for a front Belltech shock used with a DJM arm would be a good place to start if anyone can supply the part number for those.

Thanks,

Mike

MeanGreen03 · Jun 5, 2012

The Belltech Street Performance shock part# is 10103B. If you find out please post back. I tried searching a long time ago for some alternative shocks and couldn't find anything, but I didn't have this part number either.

Alex33 · Jun 6, 2012

Mike, I'll do some research and text you w/ what I find.

This would be the first one I try, BE5-2902-H0:

http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BE5-2902.jpg

MeanGreen03 · Jun 6, 2012

The are for:
1987-96 Ford F-150 2WD Standard & Extended Cabs (2"-5" drop)
1987-98 Ford F-250/F-350 2WD All cabs, Dually only (1"-3" drop)

14 in. extended length
9.5 in. collapsed length

Alex33 said:
Mike, I'll do some research and text you w/ what I find.

This would be the first one I try, BE5-2902-H0:

http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BE5-2902.jpg

Those will not work. They are for a coil spring arm.

Alex33 · Jun 6, 2012

MeanGreen03 said:
The are for:
1987-96 Ford F-150 2WD Standard & Extended Cabs (2"-5" drop)
1987-98 Ford F-250/F-350 2WD All cabs, Dually only (1"-3" drop)

14 in. extended length
9.5 in. collapsed length

Those will not work. They are for a coil spring arm.

Interesting, shows for a 99-06 Silverado/Sierra as well. I understand the coil spring mount, that is why I chose that shock. I believe the Belltech is also for a coil spring type mount that has the crossbar removed. I'm calling Bilstein tomorrow to get their thoughts as well.

Edit: MeanGreen, are you saying the belltech shocks used with the DJM arms are originally intended for a Ford application?

Edit x2: I see what you did there. Assuming that info is correct, I would use this shock, BE5-2478-H0:

http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BE5-2478.jpg

MeanGreen03 · Jun 6, 2012

These are probably your best bet, for Bilstein anyway:

p/n 24-021722
Collapsed Length: 10.06 in
Extended Length: 14.55 in

OR

p/n 24-022361
Collapsed Length: 10.02 in
Extended Length: 14.72 in

Alex33 · Jun 6, 2012

LOL, I knew with 2 heads we'd be able to work something out :Handshake:

MeanGreen03 · Jun 6, 2012

Alex33 said:
Interesting, shows for a 99-06 Silverado/Sierra as well. I understand the coil spring mount, that is why I chose that shock. I believe the Belltech is also for a coil spring type mount that has the crossbar removed. I'm calling Bilstein tomorrow to get their thoughts as well.

Edit: MeanGreen, are you saying the belltech shocks used with the DJM arms are originally intended for a Ford application?

Edit x2: I see what you did there. Assuming that info is correct, I would use this shock, BE5-2478-H0:

http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BE5-2478.jpg

Those won't work either due to the same reason. haha.... The bottom mount needs to be an eye, not a bar as what you have posted or a clevis as what is for the stock arms. Yes, the shocks are inteded for a Ford application. Due to the mounts on the DJM arms the Ford shocks are what will work. Belltech doesn't advertise them as such though, probably due to DJM being aftermarket.

Alex33 · Jun 6, 2012

MeanGreen03 said:
Those won't work either due to the same reason. haha.... The bottom mount needs to be an eye, not a bar as what you have posted or a clevis as what is for the stock arms. Yes, the shocks are inteded for a Ford application. Due to the mounts on the DJM arms the Ford shocks are what will work.

You are correct about the bar vs eye. The reason I made my suggestions is that the bar can be pressed out with no trouble, thus creating the eyelet needed to fit the arm.

MeanGreen03 · Jun 6, 2012

Alex33 said:
LOL, I knew with 2 heads we'd be able to work something out

Yes, indeed!!

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Alex33 said:
You are correct about the bar vs eye. The reason I made my suggestions is that the bar can be pressed out with no trouble, thus creating the eyelet needed to fit the arm.

Touche...I did try that with my current shocks (Belltech NItro 2) but they weren't able to be pressed out. Needless to say they suck! I swear it rides the same without front shocks as it does with front shocks! LOL

Alex33 · Jun 6, 2012

MeanGreen03 said:
Touche...I did try that with my current shocks (Beltech NItro 2) but they weren't able to be pressed out. Needless to say they suck! I swear it rides the same without front shocks as it does with front shocks! LOL

HAHA, Belltech shocks have never really worked for me, always too soft. That's why I love the Bilsteins. Either way, I'm very curious to see how this turns out for Mike.

M Hankel · Jun 6, 2012

Alex33 said:
Mike, I'll do some research and text you w/ what I find.

This would be the first one I try, BE5-2902-H0:

http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BE5-2902.jpg

So these have the bar still installed and would need to be pressed out, correct? Were these for a full size Chevy truck originall?

MeanGreen03 said:
These are probably your best bet, for Bilstein anyway:

p/n 24-021722
Collapsed Length: 10.06 in
Extended Length: 14.55 in

OR

p/n 24-022361
Collapsed Length: 10.02 in
Extended Length: 14.72 in

Out of those two, the top one looks like it's for a full size F-150, while the ones on the bottom appear to be for a mid-size Ranger/Mazda truck. I'm guessing the ones designed for a full size truck would have better valving to cope with a heavier rig. Do both of these have the bar or bare eyelet?

Mike

Alex33 · Jun 6, 2012

M Hankel said:
So these have the bar still installed and would need to be pressed out, correct? Were these for a full size Chevy truck originall?

Correct and Correct

M Hankel said:
Out of those two, the top one looks like it's for a full size F-150, while the ones on the bottom appear to be for a mid-size Ranger/Mazda truck. I'm guessing the ones designed for a full size truck would have better valving to cope with a heavier rig. Do both of these have the bar or bare eyelet?

Both have a bare eyelet

Alex33 · Jun 8, 2012

Great news guys!! I finally got some info from Bilstein US re: shocks for DJM arms. After a few calls and swapping some info, I got a shock that can be used for a 3+" drop w/ the DJM LCAs. Should have good, firm valving and support the weight of our trucks w/o trouble.

PN - 24-013284. It's an 80s Bronco/F150/F250/F350 shock that's 14.5" extended and 10" compressed.

I'm guessing it's the replacement for the shock Trace recommended as those are discontinued. If anyone has problems with valving (i.e. too soft or too firm) Bilstein will revalve for you @ $65/shock. These run about ~$70 each. With one revalve you're in at about $135/each, not too bad for a custom shock that fits and does what you want.

MeanGreen03 · Jun 8, 2012

Alex33 said:
Great news guys!! I finally got some info from Bilstein US re: shocks for DJM arms. After a few calls and swapping some info, I got a shock that can be used for a 3+" drop w/ the DJM LCAs. Should have good, firm valving and support the weight of our trucks w/o trouble.

PN - 24-013284. It's an 80s Bronco/F150/F250/F350 shock that's 14.5" extended and 10" compressed.

I'm guessing it's the replacement for the shock Trace recommended as those are discontinued. If anyone has problems with valving (i.e. too soft or too firm) Bilstein will revalve for you @ $65/shock. These run about ~$70 each. With one revalve you're in at about $135/each, not too bad for a custom shock that fits and does what you want.

Good info!! That's strange that they said the part number I found was discontinued as I found it on their website. haha... The part number you got was right above the one I found under F series. I just didn't search for it because the 24-021722 is for a 3" lowered truck and figured the 24-013284 is for stock height.

When I typed the 24-021722 shock into Bilsteins search box it says it's an auxillary shock, meaning it's to be used alongside the main shock (2 shock setup I guess??). When I searched for the year using the vehicle search it didn't say it was an auxillary shock. My guess is that it is valved differently (softer?).

I'm guessing the 24-013284 shock is the firmest, the 24-021722 shock is less firm, and 24-022361 is the softest.
:hmmm2:

So, Alex.....how about contacting them again and ask what the valving is on these 3 shocks??? :lol2:

In the end I bet the shock that Alex found is the best! :yuno:

M Hankel · Jun 8, 2012

That's some great Info guys! Thanks for doing the leg work on this. I knew their had to be some other shock options out there.

Mike

M Hankel · Jun 14, 2012

Alex33 said:
PN - 24-013284. It's an 80s Bronco/F150/F250/F350 shock that's 14.5" extended and 10" compressed.

Just ordered up these shocks from a local Autozone. 59.99 ea and they'll be here in two days. Cant wait to finally get the Tahoe dropped.

Mike

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