Ok i guess this goes here.. BodyDrop... is it worth it?

[MOBmentality]

.. and not "is it worth it" financially.. because who can truelly answer such a relative question...

but "is it worth it" as in, is it something im going to truelly regret down the road..

i looked at channeling it and it looks like thats the way to go if im going to do it.

Channeling it forces you to cut a few holes in the floor to accommodate higher parts of the frame and modifying the core support and firewall and dropping the body mounts..

the end result is nearly stock floor.. you lose about 1 inch.


Sooo back to the question.. its gonna be an extra four or five grand to body drop it... and i just dont wanna have buyers remorse and end up having to deal with sags and shit the rest of my life with the truck

So like.. IF i one day needed to use it as a daily driver.. would it hold up?

Is it gonna be more issues than its worth?

I was thinking that if i kept it for a long time this wide tire body drop could turn into something fun.. maybe even going super racey with it and doing a massive engine setup and super stiff air spring setup down the road..

Im just worried that since im going to lay frame... and we have to cut the floorboard out of the back and cut the back half of the frame off to narrow it.. i might as well body drop it since we are gonna be there anyway... but i dont wanna regret it.

[road1will]

tough call...to me its not worth it as you really run the chance of paying a lot of money just to cause a lot of problems with the truck. But, if the guy doin the work really knows what he's doing, that isn't even an issue.

[trick28]

Hard to say. I dont think what im doing is worth it really. At the end of the day its your call. Hopefully you will be happy with that call.

[Max]

Depends on how much you trust the fabrication. At this point I would say buy a welder and a frame jig if you have some garage space. Build a frame with a steering rack front suspension and body drop it 3 or 4". I don't think it would be worth the money for such a small drop.

[MOBmentality]

I don't think it would be worth the money for such a small drop.

nnnnnnoooooooooooo

its not like that

channeling it will give me a 4 inch body drop.. you just only lose an inch of floorboard because of how its done....

Picture this... when you look at your frame and how far it is from the body only a few areas are close.. some parts of the frame are further away than others..

So when you do a channel job you only lift the floor on the areas where it needs it..

The rest of the drop comes from lowering the frame mounts.

You still get 4 inches.


The question isnt is it worth the money for the drop.. question is how will it be 10 years from now if i keep it

[Max]

Oh I thought you were saying it was only and inch or so guess I skimmed over it plus I'm all high and shit. Guess it would be worth the loot if dude can gusset everything and make it straight for you. I see it as the next step toward the truck's progress along with the new paint and intros. I have a pic of some 20x15s I need to post, shit is nasty as hell.

[Nickleahy23]

Channeling is a great way to do it, but IMO since the tahoe has so much cabin space that is going to be "modified" because of the channel, cross members etc..

I would do a stock floor body drop..that way you keep the entire inside of the tahoe stock, besides the rear of course..you can set everything up exactly how you want it.

[MOBmentality]

Channeling is a great way to do it, but IMO since the tahoe has so much cabin space that is going to be "modified" because of the channel, cross members etc..

I would do a stock floor body drop..that way you keep the entire inside of the tahoe stock, besides the rear of course..you can set everything up exactly how you want it.

if i wanted to do a stock floor id wanna do a frame off build and litterally cut the frame in half and box it back in.. then all you gotta do is do the tranny hump and be done..

But im not ready for that..

maybe ill just do a natural body drop... i dont know..

im still debating on the whole process..

[lowAZhoe]

i think they look sick laying running board. bodydrop is sick too tho. tough call.

[road1will]

How much lower can you really go since your running board already hits the ground? Can you really go any lower and still drive it?

[BlackDenali]

Just Do It!!!

[DJTricky]

he can lay rocker... of if he feels even more daring he can cut off the 1 inch pinch weld and fully lay body ;)

[trick28]

or cut that bitch to lay door.

[Max]

Door that bitch if you're gonna do it :imo:

[MOBmentality]

I heard doored rides dont last for shit.. the body starts warping and then welds weaken and then rust happens.. i have heard tooooo many horror storys..if i do it ill lay pinch.. and get a peice of "L" angle steel welded over it so its smooth with the rocker and paint it all to match.. so it looks like its laying rocker but still has the sturdiness

[fatnlowtahoe504]

if it was to lay rocker panel, yea i think its worth, just laying frame is played out lol jk wish mine would lay out

[MOBmentality]

if it was to lay rocker panel, yea i think its worth, just laying frame is played out lol jk wish mine would lay out

thats the whole question.. it WILL lay frame.. but im debating the long term reliability of a full body drop

I think im sold on a body drop

[cmcarr85]

Ive had as many bodydropped s10s and a friend has a doored s10... if you drive it the right way and dont rail it 24.7 it will last.....

traditional over stock floor.... that shouldnt enve be a question... stock floor is the only way to go if you do a traditional you will regret it once you cut the body up like that....

GOOD LUCK on the decision.... either way it will look sick as f*ck

[TEXAS DEMON]

i would do like cmcarr85 said stock floor body drop. what they will do is cut about 2-4" out of the top of frame rails and top them off. it all depends on how much you want. then they will lower your body mounts. there is more then that of cousreyou have to make a new trasmission ans drive shaft tunnel. zsection the front frame rails for the bunper mounts and other things here and there. but it will be better than a channeling. if you go to a site called www.ifcustom.com they have a lot of pictures of that styel of body drop.http://www.ifcustom.com/projects/subprojects/archives.htm on this link you can see all the work.

[MOBmentality]

i would do like cmcarr85 said stock floor body drop. what they will do is cut about 2-4" out of the top of frame rails and top them off. it all depends on how much you want. then they will lower your body mounts. there is more then that of cousreyou have to make a new trasmission ans drive shaft tunnel. zsection the front frame rails for the bunper mounts and other things here and there. but it will be better than a channeling. if you go to a site called www.ifcustom.com they have a lot of pictures of that styel of body drop.http://www.ifcustom.com/projects/subprojects/archives.htm on this link you can see all the work.



just spend a lil while on their website.. i wanna lay door... whatever it takes

/thread

[TEXAS DEMON]

yhea thats the only i never got to do, lay rockers.
theres nothing like seeing a full size truckor suv drive and hear that whisislng sound, and all of the sudden, shit the doors are on the floor. shit yheaaaaa.
y

[MOBmentality]

yhea thats the only i never got to do, lay rockers.
theres nothing like seeing a full size truckor suv drive and hear that whisislng sound, and all of the sudden, shit the doors are on the floor. shit yheaaaaa.
y

ON 24x12s (or 24x10s with a 4 inch lip) and 24x15 intro super classic 5 spoke..

oouuch

:)

[TEXAS DEMON]

you cant go wrong with intros. back in the day i was sponsored by bonspeed wheels.well back i 02 haha. you cant beat billet wheels, thats the real touch to an awsome truck.and that they can make it to youre specific measurements. are you going to shorten the rear end?
have you checked out raceline wheels and the bonspeeds. they have some awsme whels also

[fatnlowtahoe504]

you cant go wrong with intros. back in the day i was sponsored by bonspeed wheels.well back i 02 haha. you cant beat billet wheels, thats the real touch to an awsome truck.and that they can make it to youre specific measurements. are you going to shorten the rear end?
have you checked out raceline wheels and the bonspeeds. they have some awsme whels also

i love the intros and bonspeeds, my boy has some staggered 20in bons on his slammed 2dr tahoe and they look perfect on there..

[MOBmentality]

you cant go wrong with intros. back in the day i was sponsored by bonspeed wheels.well back i 02 haha. you cant beat billet wheels, thats the real touch to an awsome truck.and that they can make it to youre specific measurements. are you going to shorten the rear end?
have you checked out raceline wheels and the bonspeeds. they have some awsme whels also

there is only 2 companys doing a 24x15 right now that i like forgiato and intro.. and the intros im running are the super classic exposed lug 5 spoke the look like the old cragers..

yea the rear end has to be shortened like 18 inches to do 24x15s with the 11 inch lip.

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sex....

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/104/l_70619a102cc2466192879f0aab31ccbc.jpg

[ItsAdam1]

Dose you truck even lay frame now? If not I would work on that before I did a body drop... and if it was me I would build a new frame out of 2x3 rectangular tubing and then lower my body mounts to get a stock floor body drop.

Right now I am in the process of cutting the escalade up and doing it right way. It will be laying frame but I gotta tell ya there is allot of fabrication involved. So for I have cut the inner fenders up front, I still need to raise the upper CA mounts. I pulled the fuel tank and all associated parts, pulled the rear end and shaved off all the brackets not I am just waiting for my material to come in to build the lower link mounts, lower links and notch the frame. Oh and I can't forget about cutting the floor out of the rear and building new wheel tubs.


oh and here is an Escalade with a new frame to lay on 26's
http://image.truckinweb.com/f/8118797+w750+st0/0604tr_03_z+2001_custom_cadillac_escalade+right_si de_detail.jpg
http://image.truckinweb.com/f/8118779+w750+st0/0604tr_02_z+2001_custom_cadillac_escalade+left_rea r.jpg

[trick28]

Dose you truck even lay frame now? If not I would work on that before I did a body drop... and if it was me I would build a new frame out of 2x3 rectangular tubing and then lower my body mounts to get a stock floor body drop.

Right now I am in the process of cutting the escalade up and doing it right way. It will be laying frame but I gotta tell ya there is allot of fabrication involved. So for I have cut the inner fenders up front, I still need to raise the upper CA mounts. I pulled the fuel tank and all associated parts, pulled the rear end and shaved off all the brackets not I am just waiting for my material to come in to build the lower link mounts, lower links and notch the frame. Oh and I can't forget about cutting the floor out of the rear and building new wheel tubs.


oh and here is an Escalade with a new frame to lay on 26's
http://image.truckinweb.com/f/8118797+w750+st0/0604tr_03_z+2001_custom_cadillac_escalade+right_si de_detail.jpg
http://image.truckinweb.com/f/8118779+w750+st0/0604tr_02_z+2001_custom_cadillac_escalade+left_rea r.jpg

what size wheels you going to do? i think people really under estimate the work that goes into laying a suv out.

Im only going to the running boards but it would cost me a ton more to lay body since im doing such a big wheel.

[ItsAdam1]

I am running 24x9 or 10's i don't remember with 275/30/24 tire which makes it about 30" tall tire. Your running 6's right ?

[MOBmentality]

I am running 24x9 or 10's i don't remember with 275/30/24 tire which makes it about 30" tall tire. Your running 6's right ?

He is on 28s..

But when we go to lay frame on mine its going to take ALOT of cutting because im running 24x15s so the hwole body drop concept became an immediate issue because its already going hard under the knife so it was a "now or never" kinda thing...

I just got a phone call... as of february.. if everything goes PPPPEERRFFECCTTT
my household income might be somewhere around $450k annually... soooo im NOT sweating the money so much... besides.. i have turned down multiple 16K plus offers on my bike waiting on the 20k mark.. plus 16k im about to pull of this brokerage deal im helping with on ebay.. and since that money is already in the bike im moving it directly to the yukon..

So ill have if $20-30k to put into my tire/wheel/paint/suspension combo and suspension....without having to come out of pocket.

$7400 in wheels/tires.. $2000 in paint material.. leaves me with 10-20 grand to finish suspension and interior..

this sick ass shop here in tampa said they can get me to frame using my parts for $5000-$6000.. so add in another $5000 for a body drop .. puts me with

Leaves me at 0-10grand to do the interior...

WITHOUT coming out of pocket....

I THINK ill be alright.

plus im not gonna run into alot of issues you did (trick) because my side to side size(24x15) is going to be waaaay easier to deal with than your up and down(28xX)

[trick28]

He is on 28s..

But when we go to lay frame on mine its going to take ALOT of cutting because im running 24x15s so the hwole body drop concept became an immediate issue because its already going hard under the knife so it was a "now or never" kinda thing...

I just got a phone call... as of february.. if everything goes PPPPEERRFFECCTTT
my household income might be somewhere around $450k annually... soooo im NOT sweating the money so much... besides.. i have turned down multiple 16K plus offers on my bike waiting on the 20k mark.. plus 16k im about to pull of this brokerage deal im helping with on ebay.. and since that money is already in the bike im moving it directly to the yukon..

So ill have if $20-30k to put into my tire/wheel/paint/suspension combo and suspension....without having to come out of pocket.

I THINK ill be alright.

shit son. doing the damn thing. im at my limit with this truck. It seems like i get 1 step done but i have to take 2 steps back. Something is always holding us up. First it was the decision on the wheels/ then all the parts/ now axles. but it will be worth it when its all done. so will yours!

[ItsAdam1]

damn dude if your using that big of a wheel i would build a whole new frame...

[MOBmentality]

yea.. i want it to look just like that pic i did on the last page (suspension wise) the dude in tampa wants to do a 4 bag setup on the back one on each cantalever so it rides at super low pressure and floats.. we talked about doing solenoid lockouts.. so i can push a button and drop the truck onto the pins and instead of laying body it will drop all the way to max/low drive height and stop. He wants to do the front where we leave it on the bag its on but do an adjustable tension bag/strut to control ride stiffness and act as a shock..

i mean i want it to go all out.. but then ride like a champ.. someshit you would WANT to drive from tampa to heatwave.

I figure this is my first MAJOR build.. might as well push it to the wall.

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damn dude if your using that big of a wheel i would build a whole new frame...

Its seeming like that might be the way... we were gonna back half it.. and then just sink the front.. but .. im thinking you might be right... i made some calls today.. tampa dude is interesting but thinking of taking his ideas to a frame guy, and delivering it to him with a new frame in hand.

[SloZ71Hoe]

when i decided to bodydrop my truck... i was just going to do a channel like you are talking about. Well now i have a full frame and powdercoated suspension laying body on 24's. If you going to do it do it all at once... that way you dont regret not doing it.

[Badluck]

MOB and Trick

Can't wait to see your rides done!

[Eagle]

true! the seriously big wheeled body laying trucks that don;t have full frames usually have not much more than 3 feet of OE frame left in the middle after all is said and done.

Most wsh they had just had the blank slate of a new frame instead of re-engineering the front a half and back half, but being restricted to oe dimensions in the center.

[airbagd]

yea.. i want it to look just like that pic i did on the last page (suspension wise) the dude in tampa wants to do a 4 bag setup on the back one on each cantalever so it rides at super low pressure and floats.. we talked about doing solenoid lockouts.. so i can push a button and drop the truck onto the pins and instead of laying body it will drop all the way to max/low drive height and stop. He wants to do the front where we leave it on the bag its on but do an adjustable tension bag/strut to control ride stiffness and act as a shock..

i mean i want it to go all out.. but then ride like a champ.. someshit you would WANT to drive from tampa to heatwave.

I figure this is my first MAJOR build.. might as well push it to the wall.

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Its seeming like that might be the way... we were gonna back half it.. and then just sink the front.. but .. im thinking you might be right... i made some calls today.. tampa dude is interesting but thinking of taking his ideas to a frame guy, and delivering it to him with a new frame in hand.



Whats the name of the shop in Tampa?

[MOBmentality]

It was gonna be T&A but.. alot has changed since this post.. Everything with the Yukon is on hold.. and it might end up just being to the running boards on 6s , with running board delete and this big body mod product we are developing..

There was some things said by shop employees that sketched me out about the shop.. and i lost $9000 Right at the end of December.. nothing i wont overcome but.. enough to put the yuke on hold a sec.. and now im not 100% sure i want it sitting till march before i can REALLY dive into it.. and then another 2 or 3 months of work to finish it..

Soooo i might do the same theme.. just an easier route

Im not sure.. here is where its been sitting since like late october early november..
( its only been moved like 3 times since Tkemp copped the old rims off of it)..

http://www.brittondelizia.com/josh/sitting.jpg

It looks so lonely.. lol.. at least it has the s10 to keep it company

[Max]

I'm sure it will look dope when you finish it, all in due time. Lol @ your sig btw.

[MOBmentality]

Yea.. if i decide to go the easy route its still gonna be the whole Black/Grey mica flake/tiny bit of blue pearl.. paint.. flat grey pinstrips.. and a 5 lug conversion with exposed lugs and an old school 5 spoke 26 painted to match with flat grey lips.. sitting pretty much frame.. with the big rocker thing im workin on and maybe some sort of thing for the rear..

Still the same bumpers and hood and light sets i was planning on..


So still the same theme.. just fake the body drop with the sheet metal mod instead of body dropped and 26s instead of 24x15s

[road1will]

It was gonna be T&A but.. alot has changed since this post.. Everything with the Yukon is on hold.. and it might end up just being to the running boards on 6s , with running board delete and this big body mod product we are developing..

There was some things said by shop employees that sketched me out about the shop.. and i lost $9000 Right at the end of December.. nothing i wont overcome but.. enough to put the yuke on hold a sec.. and now im not 100% sure i want it sitting till march before i can REALLY dive into it.. and then another 2 or 3 months of work to finish it..

Soooo i might do the same theme.. just an easier route

Im not sure.. here is where its been sitting since like late october early november..
( its only been moved like 3 times since Tkemp copped the old rims off of it)..

http://www.brittondelizia.com/josh/sitting.jpg

It looks so lonely.. lol.. at least it has the s10 to keep it company

i thought you gave the S10 away?

[MOBmentality]

I did.. he hasnt moved here yet.. i gave it to my dude as an xmas gift.. and a job.. and a month of free rent.. if he moved to tampa.. he is still getting all his ducks in a row so he can get down here.. closing out his lease .. getting the old job/new job stuff in order to provide the smallest gap in work.. ect

[Narco]

450K a year? i wanna come work for you!!

[MOBmentality]

No ones works.. for.. everyone works "with" its a family ..

[Narco]

sign me up son!

[airbagd]

It was gonna be T&A but.. alot has changed since this post.. Everything with the Yukon is on hold.. and it might end up just being to the running boards on 6s , with running board delete and this big body mod product we are developing..

There was some things said by shop employees that sketched me out about the shop.. and i lost $9000 Right at the end of December.. nothing i wont overcome but.. enough to put the yuke on hold a sec.. and now im not 100% sure i want it sitting till march before i can REALLY dive into it.. and then another 2 or 3 months of work to finish it..

Soooo i might do the same theme.. just an easier route

Im not sure.. here is where its been sitting since like late october early november..
( its only been moved like 3 times since Tkemp copped the old rims off of it)..

http://www.brittondelizia.com/josh/sitting.jpg

It looks so lonely.. lol.. at least it has the s10 to keep it company

Never heard of them....I've been in Tampa for most of my life and there aren't many places to trust in the area... a lot of shops are only in business a short time and pack up. If you're looking for a great shop that will do quality work, Jimmy's Rod and Customs is the place to go... but he's on the east coast (Daytona). He's the one building the Bodydropped Titan Dually.

I've slowly started working on my Hoe... using a Silverado front end and then 2 x 4 from the firewall back to get it stock floor.

Where in Tampa are you? Have you headed out to any of the minitruck meets in New Tampa?

[MOBmentality]

Never heard of them....I've been in Tampa for most of my life and there aren't many places to trust in the area... a lot of shops are only in business a short time and pack up. If you're looking for a great shop that will do quality work, Jimmy's Rod and Customs is the place to go... but he's on the east coast (Daytona). He's the one building the Bodydropped Titan Dually.

I've slowly started working on my Hoe... using a Silverado front end and then 2 x 4 from the firewall back to get it stock floor.

Where in Tampa are you? Have you headed out to any of the minitruck meets in New Tampa?


Noo im def not a mini trucker .. too big and too old.. i just got a deal on the S and picked it up.. T&A is the only shop thats like IN tampa.. its on Dale Mabry right near 275 big ass yellow building .. shares a parking lot with 2001 Odessy.... Right across from Mons Venus..

I live right in between Hyde park and Channelside.. The call us Westend at Hyde Park.. or Hyde Park North.. pretty much two roads down and one road north of Howard/Armenia..

I think monday the yukon will be gone though.. trading it for a benz.. im gonna buy a hoe so i can do my ss theme a lil easier

[TEXAS DEMON]

have you tried enhanced customs?http://web.mac.com/brian_bourke/frank/HOME.html