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Sepiroth
04-29-2009, 03:20 PM
Just to let those that have done a drop. If you cut the bumpstops some, that will greatly increase the ride quality.

Dalton
04-29-2009, 03:57 PM
thanks bro :bowtie:

shsportsfan12
04-29-2009, 04:34 PM
Cutting bump stops does not sound like the most intelligent plan

JKmotorsports
04-29-2009, 07:26 PM
Cutting bump stops does not sound like the most intelligent plan


If your vehicle is dropped, the suspension travel is decreased. Depending on the amount of drop, the axle or control arms may be bottoming on the bumpstops, causing a bouncy or harsh ride. You can remedy this by replacing the stock stops with shorter ones or just trimming off the needed amount from the original pieces. Suspenion companies make shorter replacement bumpstops for this purpose.
If you go about 5" or lower on the rear of our trucks, you can gain more rear travel by removing the welded on bumpstop bracket from the frame then remounting the bumpstop to the frame itself, gaining at least another couple extra inches of travel.

shsportsfan12
04-29-2009, 08:57 PM
If your vehicle is dropped, the suspension travel is decreased. Depending on the amount of drop, the axle or control arms may be bottoming on the bumpstops, causing a bouncy or harsh ride. You can remedy this by replacing the stock stops with shorter ones or just trimming off the needed amount from the original pieces. Suspenion companies make shorter replacement bumpstops for this purpose.
If you go about 5" or lower on the rear of our trucks, you can gain more rear travel by removing the welded on bumpstop bracket from the frame then remounting the bumpstop to the frame itself, gaining at least another couple extra inches of travel.

When I read cutting off, I automatically assume it's meant to be fully removed. Replacing the bump stop with a smaller one is a much better alternative. I have my pickup cranked all the way up and resting on the UCA Bumpstops so I'm fully aware of the harsh ride:D...

Sepiroth
04-29-2009, 09:07 PM
No, I typed cut the bumpstops some.

But, hindsight, I coulda been clearer

shsportsfan12
04-29-2009, 09:28 PM
No, I typed cut the bumpstops some.

But, hindsight, I coulda been clearer

Then that's my bad for insinuating something was typed a certain way. However, I'd personally rather replace it entirely rather the cut it up

PavementPounder
04-30-2009, 05:38 PM
Ok. Mines 4wd and i want to go 3/5 drop. How hard is this going to be? Nobody pays attention at gmfs so I thought I would try here. djm has a kit, but on the website it says that it may cause it to bottom out. Can this be avoided and still use the 5" coil? Will cutting bumpstops down help this?

Shaggy
04-30-2009, 05:44 PM
Ok. Mines 4wd and i want to go 3/5 drop. How hard is this going to be? Nobody pays attention at gmfs so I thought I would try here. djm has a kit, but on the website it says that it may cause it to bottom out. Can this be avoided and still use the 5" coil? Will cutting bumpstops down help this?

Do you have a lift on it now, or you just want to lower it?

Sepiroth
04-30-2009, 06:10 PM
If you look at JK's post, I think he might have mentioned something like a modification that would be recommended to do to the bump stops to give ya a lil more room back there.

PavementPounder
04-30-2009, 07:05 PM
I just want to lower it. I don't believe jk and I will have the same setup. His is 2wd

JKmotorsports
04-30-2009, 07:22 PM
Ok. Mines 4wd and i want to go 3/5 drop. How hard is this going to be? Nobody pays attention at gmfs so I thought I would try here. djm has a kit, but on the website it says that it may cause it to bottom out. Can this be avoided and still use the 5" coil? Will cutting bumpstops down help this?

With a 5" coil, the axle will bottom out on the bumstops. You can't trim enough off the bumstop alone, so you'll have to cut the bumpstop mounting brackets off the frame and relocate the bumstops to the frame itself w/o the original brackets. This will free up a couple extra inches of travel and prevent the bottoming out that DJM is referring to.
As for the front, since it's 4wd, you have accelerated wear on the cv joints if you go too low, but 3" should be okay.

matt14
05-01-2009, 12:54 AM
I cut the bumpstop brackets out of my truck about 7months after the drop. What a difference that makes. The driver side is a little harder to cut, the gas tank is in the way so a extra set of eyes makes it easier.

fatnlowtahoe504
05-01-2009, 04:56 AM
mine bottoms out all of the time with the 3/5 drop, i dont think moving the bump stops is going to do anything with mine cus the axle is so so close the frame already, but they do sell universal bolt in C Notches and that would give you a few more inches, cus thats what i will be doing when i bag my truck this summer.. here is a pic of it.. http://www.resto-modtechnology.com/catalog/t_16817_01.jpg

PavementPounder
05-01-2009, 09:09 AM
I cut the bumpstop brackets out of my truck about 7months after the drop. What a difference that makes. The driver side is a little harder to cut, the gas tank is in the way so a extra set of eyes makes it easier.

not trying to sound like a complete tard but you have no bumpstops in the rear whatsoever? This does not affect/hurt anything?

Timmy
05-01-2009, 09:08 PM
not trying to sound like a complete tard but you have no bumpstops in the rear whatsoever? This does not affect/hurt anything?

you'd have to drive more carefully. you wouldn't need them unless you wanna save your axle.

Grocery Getter
05-02-2009, 09:52 AM
you'd have to drive more carefully. you wouldn't need them unless you wanna save your axle.

I have a 3/5 drop and took mine out all together. I initially cut them down but needed to trim them more so I took them out and haven't put them back in. I don't bottom out at all but I took out my 3rd row seats and rarely have passengers in the back besides my baby girl. I have hit bottom once or twice on some huge dips in the road but it hasn't been an issue....

Fyrcaptain
05-02-2009, 01:40 PM
Sepiroth what are componants of choice for your drop (looks good, about what I want for my truck & actually looks right with the stock wheels 17's?), and what are your measurements to the underside of your fender lip front and rear?

Thanks

Sepiroth
05-02-2009, 05:00 PM
Captain, I went smooth and simple for the drop. I got 2" drop keys for the front and went with 3"coils for the rear.

IIRC it sits at 31" all around. I can double check if you really want me to..

Yea, I have to agree that the truck had the right amount of drop and sits level. Actually those are the stock 16" rims with P265-70r16 BFG Long Trails.

Fyrcaptain
05-02-2009, 08:34 PM
Gotcha......whose keys and springs did you wind up using?

Captain, I went smooth and simple for the drop. I got 2" drop keys for the front and went with 3"coils for the rear.

IIRC it sits at 31" all around. I can double check if you really want me to..

Yea, I have to agree that the truck had the right amount of drop and sits level. Actually those are the stock 16" rims with P265-70r16 BFG Long Trails.

Sepiroth
05-03-2009, 02:31 PM
The keys are McGaugheys. The rear springs are DJM

PavementPounder
05-03-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm going ahead with the 3/5. Who wants to buy it for me?

BOSS
05-06-2009, 01:29 PM
I gotta admit, 3 months ago, to me all this suspension talk sounded like the equivalent of the adults in the Peanuts cartoon talking amongst themselves.

I would recommend the 3/5.

Now that I'm edumucated thanks to alot of reading and guys on this board, I'd say you're almost definitely going to have to cut of the bump stop brackets from the frame in the rear. The truck will end up settling down on the bumpstops or damn close to them and you just dont have enough travel, so the ride will be stiff and every bump felt through the truck because of the axel riding on the stops. I cut my bracket and actually ended up putting aftermarket bumpstops on the axle piece that marrys up to the frame on bumps instead of the frame itself. Was easier that way for me.

For the front, you should be very careful when you are trimming the bumpstops in my opinion - you don't want to cut them too short. That's what my installer did when he did my front spindles and keys, so I had to find some new bumpstops and reinstall them. I ended up not trimming them AT ALL, and my front barely rides on them 100% of the time. My front bumpstops are from a S10 Blazer (junkyard) I think, they looked newer/stiffer and just the right size to keep my sh!t from bottoming out any more.

HTH

BOSS