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tast101
05-12-2009, 08:14 PM
From TF.Com

After getting my windows tinted, I realized that it was EXTREMELY difficult to see out my back window at night (street isn't lit well... the lights reflect off the wall and make it hard to see). I looked for solutions, but couldn't find anything that really fit. I saw that you can just throw in a 55w light bulb in the stock location, but it didn't help much and was reported to burn / melt the plastic lens after time. There was a kit made by White Night that gave me an idea.... here's a picture:
http://www.whitenight.com/images/2pics.jpghttp://www.whitenight.com/images/2pics.jpg

They wanted $99 for the kit plus some extra wiring harnesses and adapter brackets to make it all work without extra wiring. I could not afford it, but I could pick up some driving lights and do it myself.

I started with Pilot HID-simulated driving lights (in other words: cheap fog lights... anything with 55w dual lights will do) for $19.99. Here's a picture:

...and a link

These lights came with the wiring, mounting hardware, and a switch(which I'm not going to use). You will need a few connectors:
Tap splice:

Disconnects: (optional... if you want to be able to disconnect the lights in the future)
http://www.cabletiesplus.com/Images/product/InsulatedDisconnect.jpg


OR... if you can just get this:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/Images/M/4162.JPG

and use a male disconnect, it is much easier. Otherwise, you will have to create your own disconnect on the splice. Again, the disconnect is optional. you can simply use the tap splice to permanantly splice the wires, if that's what you prefer. I knew I wanted to wire in a switch at a later time and would need the disconnect, so I used it. For sake of this how-to, I will use the disconnect that I used.

Once you have the parts, you will need to find the light green wire that comes out of the factory trailering harness. (should be the one to the middle pins of the harness). For safety sake, test the wire with a continuity tester or a multimeter to make sure you've got the right one. I turned the key to "on", put on the parking brake, and shifted to reverse to test this. ***USE EXTREME CAUTION - THE VEHCILE CAN ROLL OVER YOU IF YOU DO NOT USE THE PARKING BRAKE OR A WHEEL STOP***
After you test the wire to make sure you got the right one, place the open end of the tap splice onto the wire. Stick an un-stripped wire into the closed side (there is a barrier in the middle, so make sure your wire goes through on the right side, or you will not splice the wire correctly) When both wires are in, use pliars to crimp down the metal connector and secure the connector strap across the connector. Strip the other end of the wire you spliced into it and place a female disconnect onto it, and crimp it. This will give you a spliced disconnect. Tuck the new connection back into the wire loom and tape it up with electrical tape to make sure it's secure and safe from the elements. (leave the disconnect hanging out).

Now, it's time to find a ground. There are a few places to find a ground, but I was uncomfortable with using the grounding strap for the fuel filler neck, so I created my own. Using a self-tapping screw (or drill a hole, and use a fine-threaded sheet metal screw) you can attach a new ground to the chassis. I did mine on the driver's side, right behind the bumper / hitch mount. Attach the black wire on the light harness (from the Autozone kit) to your ground. The kit has a small open-end connector on it that can be easily attached to a ground.

At this point, you can add a male connector to the white wire in the cabling kit and plug it into the disconnect if you want, however I would wait until the lights are mounted before connecting power to them.

I chose a spot in the bumper (between two long holes) to mount my lights. I also wanted to aim them a little to the sides to get a better viewing angle. This is not required, however if you do, you will get a better angle. The supplied screws are not meant to mount to metal, so I would not recommend using them. Use a sheet metal screw (3/16 is a good size) that is fine or standard threaded (DO NOT USE COURSE THREADS AS IT WILL NOT SECURE CORRECTLY). Drill your pilot holes (if you're using 3/16 thread screws, I would use 5/32 pilot holes as the bumper is rather thick and WILL bind a screw if the hole is too tight. Mount the lights using the supplied brackets and bolts / lock washers and finger tighten. (I used the middle hole as it let me adjust the lights better) Connect the supplied wiring from the lights to the correct color-matched connectors. If you have not added your male end to the white wire, do so now and plug it into your connector. Test the lights by using the method stated above for turning on your reverse lights. The lights should come on with your reverse lights. If they do not, check fuses, and make sure you have all wires secured and matched up correctly. If they turn on, you're done. You can either tuck the wires up into the bumper and secure them to the wirelooms that go across the back, or if you're like me and wanted the "stock" look, you can buy 10 feet of 3/8" wire loom for about $.99 at a hardware store (read: Home Depot) and make it clean. I zip-tied all the extra wiring together and placed it into the loom, then zip-tied the loom out of the way.

When you're done, your Tahoe should look like this:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Cars/Tahoe017.jpg
And the people seeing you back up will see this:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Cars/Tahoe019.jpg

For a mere $25-30, you can have as bright of lights as the $99+ systems, and it doesn't require relocating the trailer wiring harness.

If you're good with electrical, you can also wire in a 3-way switch that will allow you to turn them off, turn them on by reverse, and turn them on for utility. That will be my next step.

tast101
05-12-2009, 08:14 PM
Pt 2
Got the switch in today. It was a bit tougher than I had originally planned, but I really like the functionality! SO... here goes...

What you'll need:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe047.jpg

Pictured:
3/8" x 10 Wireloom
16ga wire x 25ft (green)
16ga wire x 25ft (red)
3 x 18-14ga disconnects (female)
1 x 18-14ga disconnect (male)
1 x 18-14ga tap splice
1 x On-Off-On switch (rated at least 20a@12v)
1 x piece of cardboard
utility knife
Dremel w/ cut-off tool
Wire strippers / crimpers
Pliars

Not Pictured (because I figured it out later...)
Drill
1/2" drill bit
electrical tape



Here's the switch I ended up buying. It's hard to find a good On-Off-On rocker switch for 12v DC applications. I ended up getting this AC application, but the rating is right, I just didn't use 3 of the terminals.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe025.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe026.jpg

I looked for the PERFECT spot to put the switch, but couldn't find it... I thought here would be a good place:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe024.jpg

... but realized that it just felt out of place and that the rear A/C unit was placed in that area.

Then, as I was looking around near the fake speaker area... I found the perfect spot... the pillar! There was a hole and everything. Ok, now for the wiring....

There was no magic hole I could go through to get to the outside, so I found I would have to make my own. I took out the taillights using these screws:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe049.jpg

... and found the perfect place:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe051.jpg

As the picture shows, I wrapped my wires in the loom and stuffed it through the 1/2" hole I drilled out behind the light. I found that wrapping your wires in the loom first was the easiest way to go. I also had to drill out the 1/2" hole and slide the loom through on the other side to be able to get my 12v power source.


Now that I have my holes drilled, here's the wiring:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe044.jpg

Green 16ga wire is connected to the disconnect I made in the trailer wiring. (see post above about light green wire... see the connection?) Since that was a female disconnect, I added the male disconnect to the end, and tied it in. The red goes straight to the 12v power source. I decided to use the 12v cigarette lighter as a source as it will be rarely used and is 20a fused.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe048.jpg

Just tap splice your red wire into the orange wire that goes into the lighter, and you will have a good fused 12v source. The white wire is from the light system that I originally plugged into my spliced disconnect at the trailer wiring harness. It was JUST long enough to reach my location. Once the wiring was in place, I plugged my switch in like this:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe045.jpg

This switch is meant to work two devices from one source instead of control one device with two sources, it just required reversal of the wiring. The center pin needs to be your device wire (the white one that goes to the lights), then plug the other two into the opposite ends. When the switch is in the middle position, it will disconnect all circuits. When it is in the up position (the red wire) it will turn the lights on with the 12v source. When it is in the down position (the green wire) it will only turn on when power is applied to the reverse lights. I test cut my switch hole in the cardboard, and once it was correct, I transferred it to my plastic panel via utility knife. I then used my dremel to cut it out. Here is the final result:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe046.jpg

Unfortunately, my wife, child, and dog were all running around in the garage, and I was distracted... it came out a LITTLE crooked, but it works!

So, in the down position... I get:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Cars/Tahoe019.jpg

In the middle position... I get:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Cars/Tahoe017.jpg

In the up position... I get:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/RenegadeRevo/Projects/Tahoe.jpg

It took me about 2-2.5 hours with some interruptions and plan changes. Now, I can use my lights without having to have reverse on!

Stik
08-17-2009, 06:31 PM
nice post Tast101...one more mod to add to the ever growing list....


:beer:

2000Yukon
08-18-2009, 08:00 PM
Thanks for the write up. Need to get this done along with many other things.

kickitandholdit
12-23-2009, 12:38 AM
thanks looks handy

borohoe
05-03-2010, 11:43 PM
Thanks for the tutorial. I just got done doing this, and it looks great (minus the three way switch because I ran out of time...gonna do this tomorrow).

Regarding the ground/black wire from the lights...I just grounded them the the lighting bracket itself, as it was all metal and I drilled clean holes to mount...works out great.

Also, Radio Shack still has a surprisingly large amount of electronic components in their store - here I found the splice/disconnect for the trailer hitch wire, as well as the switch.

Can't wait to get the switch installed and turn this into a full utility project. Thanks again!

withac
06-27-2010, 05:04 PM
I'm getting ready to do this and I plan on mounting the switch on the dash. Rather than run the red and green wire all the way up front from the back wouldn't it make more sense/what would be wrong with splicing into the green trailer harness wire right under the dash for the reverse controlled setting and the then splice into the cigarette lighter wire for the red constant power setting, then you would only have to run one wire to the back for the lights.

withac
06-28-2010, 09:19 AM
bump

withac
06-28-2010, 05:11 PM
I couldn't find a switch rated at 20 amps but found a 16 amp switch, do you think I'll be okay?

withac
07-08-2010, 06:00 PM
Okay, here’s my experience. I mounted the lights under the bumper like instructed then used wire loom and zip ties to secure it and route it up through to where the tail light is. I then drilled a hole in the side (hole placement is critical or you could end up drilling into an empty cavity) and used a grommet in the hole so the wires wouldn’t rub on the sharp metal. Then I pulled the wire through to where the factory sub is mounted. From there it was easy to run the wires up to the front tucking them under the trim or popping off the thresholds to run the wire under them. I thought I would just find a 12 V lead and the back-up light wire up front rather than run them all the way from the back. I found one 12V hot and spliced into it but got nervous because I didn’t know what it was from so I undid the splice and just spliced off the hot wire coming directly from the battery to the relay (I’ll get to that in a minute). I spent half the afternoon trying to find a back-up light wire under the dash and finally gave up. I’m sure someone else could have in ten minutes but I bagged it and went to the back end, spliced into the wire from the trailer wires, and ran it up to the front next to the wire for the fogs. My plan was to use two indicator lights for each position of the rocker. Once again, I’m sure someone else would figure this out sooner but I didn’t. With the lead for the indicator light coming off the power wires going into the switch the constant power indicator light was always on. The way to wire it is to splice off the wire coming out of the switch to the fogs and use that for the indicator light. Of course that way it lights up under constant power or when the back-up lights come on, but that’s okay, if the light is on and you aren’t backing up you know the switch is flipped the other way. So, I could have gotten by with one indicator light but I’d already mounted two so the second is non functional. Finally, as suggested by others, I used a relay so it would be carrying the load not the switch. I wired it like the diagram except it was a three way switch so there are two power sources coming in.
Did any of that make sense?

gfunkfb09
02-22-2011, 11:27 PM
I finally got around to doing this.

Did it with a $24 set of fog lights from AutoZone.

Mine are switch on only, they don't come on with the reverse lights. I like being able to turn them on with the car off, or when driving to scare off tailgaters.:gr_guns:

Some pics of them:

Car on

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy295/gfunkfb09/My%20Yukon/photo1.jpg


Car off

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy295/gfunkfb09/My%20Yukon/photo2.jpg

withac
02-23-2011, 08:28 AM
I've got the one two way switch in my 'Ho and two one way switches in my pick-up so I can have them off, on, or run by the back up lights

puckhead
06-13-2011, 12:16 AM
What type of switch are you guys using? WIll any switch work?

jeffyrc
06-13-2011, 08:19 AM
What a very good idea and very practical. I like it, think I might do it

withac
06-13-2011, 09:29 AM
What type of switch are you guys using? WIll any switch work?

In my 'HO I used the On-Off-On rocker switch (rated at least 20a@12v) switch listed in the original install. I also bought little indicator light (because the switch wasn't lighted) and mounted it next to the switch so I would know when the back up lights are on. With this type of switch, and wired correctly, one way they only come on with the trucks reverse lights, in the middle they don't come on at all, and the other way they are on continuosly in case you want them on to be puttering around behind the truck at night. When I did my pick-up I used two, on-off, lighted rocker switches. Switch one on they come on with the reverse lights, turn it off and the other one on, they are on contunually, leave them both off, well, you got the idea. With this method when you turn them by themselves the reverse lights on the truck come on too, no biggie as far as I can tell, just an artifact of two switches going to one output. Hope that all made sense

puckhead
06-13-2011, 10:55 AM
Thanks for the info! If I were to put his there instead, someone said a straight switch would fry the his and I would need to do a repay. Anybody confirm this? If so how do I do that?

withac
06-13-2011, 02:54 PM
Thanks for the info! If I were to put his there instead, someone said a straight switch would fry the his and I would need to do a repay. Anybody confirm this? If so how do I do that?

Not sure I follow you but I did it like the original write up, and added my own post to it (see the first page), and I've had zero problems. When I did my truck I used two on off switches, had one powered from the reverse wire in the hitch harness like the original instructions, and the other switch powered from the battery like the original instructions, it's just that instead of going to two sides of one on-off-on switch like the original, they go to two separate on-off switches, if that made sense. The output from the switches splice together then go to the relay to power up the lights, that's why when I turn them on constant I get feedback to the truck reverse lights and they come on also (if the reverse switch is on also). I can always turn them both off. Once again, did that make any sense? I did this a year ago and have had zero problems also.

puckhead
06-13-2011, 07:21 PM
Oh, balls. My bad dude. Typed that up on my phone and it didn't turn out that good lol. Yeah yours makes sense. I am just thinking of doing a more clean cut approach. I just want one on off switch not wired into my stock reverse lights. So in-between the switch and the light (mine are going to be hids) do I need any type of relay? I have been told that running a switch with no relay will fry my hids. Thing is I don't know what relay or why. I just need to know if I need one or not lol. Hope this clears things up. Don't think I slaughtered this one lol

withac
06-13-2011, 10:22 PM
Oh, balls. My bad dude. Typed that up on my phone and it didn't turn out that good lol. Yeah yours makes sense. I am just thinking of doing a more clean cut approach. I just want one on off switch not wired into my stock reverse lights. So in-between the switch and the light (mine are going to be hids) do I need any type of relay? I have been told that running a switch with no relay will fry my hids. Thing is I don't know what relay or why. I just need to know if I need one or not lol. Hope this clears things up. Don't think I slaughtered this one lol

I don’t know a lot about HID’s, but I thought they took some time to warm up and it wasn’t good to turn them on and off frequently. IF that’s the case I would think you wouldn’t want HID’s for aux. back up lights. As for the relay, I’m not an electrician but my understanding is the purpose of the relay is so the power for the lights is going through the relay not a little switch, all the switch has is the power from the back up light wire or whatever constant 12 volt source you found, then the switch activates the relay and then however many watts your lights are runs through the relay not a switch. So I would think you would use the relay like in the write up and it would send the power to the HID’s. Make sense?
Please, anyone else with more knowledge chime in here?

puckhead
06-14-2011, 05:36 PM
I see what you are saying now. Makes sense too. So I would take it that most switches are set up so they can not handle the 12volt load then and the relay is?

I would be using the Auxiliary HIDs for dark nights and camping and stuff so i would turn em on and leave em on for a while.

Thanks withac!

withac
06-14-2011, 07:58 PM
I see what you are saying now. Makes sense too. So I would take it that most switches are set up so they can not handle the 12volt load then and the relay is?

I would be using the Auxiliary HIDs for dark nights and camping and stuff so i would turn em on and leave em on for a while.

Thanks withac!

No prob Puck, I'm just passing along what others told me. Yeah, it was my understanding that it's the draw of all the watts that you don't want the switch handling, if you put a couple of 50 watt fogs on it then all that power/draw would be going through the switch, with the relay, you still have a 12 volt charge running to the switch but the flow of electricity to the lights isnt going through the switch, the electricity flows through the relay which powers up the lights, the power from the switch just activates the relay. This is just what I've been told by others who know more than I do

puckhead
06-14-2011, 09:13 PM
Sweet, makes sense. Im with you, I dont know the background of it. I can do most of it though and as long as the instructions are right Im good to go lol.