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Travieso
07-31-2009, 06:19 PM
Hey guys After a few days of reading the forums i would like to introduce myself, and not just linger around here, lol

Basically what i want to do is try to smoke some tires on my 24's is that possible ?

So What do i need to achieve this ?
Basically i want to get the best bang for my buck

this is what i currently have (not much but a good start i suppose)

Magnaflow Catback exhaust system
3.75 Gear ratio stock from the dealership

Things that i might buy in the future,

1.Cold Air Intake (can anyone recommend me some)?
I was thinking a AEM CAI - i heard threw the dealership that getting a wet CAI will damage your sensors etc.

2. Long tube headers (can anyone recommend me some)?

3. Chip was thinking of a Superchips Cortex™ Programmer

Will this help me out alot considerably ?

Thanks... Oh i found a new home :)

Here is a picture
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f367/regalistic2003/Elisha30thYearoldBirthday040.jpg

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Rollin Thunder
07-31-2009, 06:27 PM
AEM brute force. Not sure on Headers. But SKIP THE CHIP. Just get a BB custom tune, AFTER all your bolt on mods. Biggest power increase before forced induction though would be a Cam.

tast101
07-31-2009, 06:39 PM
Welcome to the forum. Do everything JK, Chistoso, and Jennabear have done. hahah Then you be running Ricers with the 24z. Soe engine work and a supacharger!!

blueflamed03
07-31-2009, 07:16 PM
welcome :cheers: Nice looking ride!

3.73's are nice, but 4.10's would help.
LPP headers, and a Black Bear tune.
AEM or choice of brand CAI.

JKmotorsports
07-31-2009, 07:21 PM
I can roast my 24s along with a few performance cars:)
If you have the pcm retuned and remove the Torque Management, that will help a lot. Install longtube headers, intake, exhaust, higher stall converter and retune the pcm and you'll be able to smoke the tires a little easier. Cam and heads will make a huge difference and a power adder like n2o or a blower will definitely help you light the tires. And check your rpo codes to see what rearend gears you have. Deeper gears will definitely help.
BTW, welcome to the site:cheers:

wmgood64
07-31-2009, 07:33 PM
Thats a tall task!!

brucebruce45
07-31-2009, 07:47 PM
4.10 gears and a tune. that's all u need

Robert.K
07-31-2009, 08:46 PM
Do 4.1o gears go into a 4x4? if not ant suggestion?

Rollin Thunder
07-31-2009, 09:21 PM
Just a word of warning here. Your stock tranny cant handle much more power than stock.

JennaBear
07-31-2009, 09:25 PM
It actually can, you just have to dial the line pressures in right to make it have a longer life.

Cobra
07-31-2009, 09:46 PM
not 24" but this guy was spinning those 20" pretty good with this..


2nd fastest NA 5.3L, cam only
Owner: Lance - LS1Truck "Bluecajun"

Vehicle: ’03 Chevy Silverado
Engine: 5.3

Mods: Nelson mail order tune, ls1 fans w/ nelson harness, cai, tr220/112, 918's, manley pushrods, pacesetter lt's, custom 3" exaust w/ Y and aerochamber, built 60E, tci 3000 stall, eaton differential w/ 4.10's.

show: 2" hotchkis drop coils, 4" beltech shackles and hangers drop. 20" centerline stingray III's w/ falken 275/45/20's.

track times:

60' - 1.74
330' - 5.08
1/8 - 7.93@85.49
1000' - 10.42
1/4 - 12.53@106.73

Modded
08-01-2009, 03:04 AM
Don't large gear skill the gas mileage?
Also I was looking in to TM and read BBTune take most of it out, what about all of it Jenna?

JennaBear
08-01-2009, 12:02 PM
Torque Management is more than just one thing (comes from multiple functions in the engine), so theoretically you can't get rid of 100%.

Nickleahy23
08-01-2009, 02:05 PM
you and me both lol..i cant spin my 24s with the 5.3 with BB tune, cAI, exhaust and 3.73 gears.. so i bought a 6.0..thats going in the tahoe in two weeks..i will let you know what that does for spinning the tires lol

Rollin Thunder
08-01-2009, 02:20 PM
wanna spin the tires. pop in to Reverse and floor it. Works every time.

JennaBear
08-01-2009, 02:34 PM
You guys need to remember the amount of weight that is going over the rear axle on these things. It is much easier to do in a truck as the bed is so light over those back tires. It is even worse with the 4X4s, due to the fact, that even when you are in 2WD there is still a small amount of power going to the differential, so you are never really in 2WD.

Nickleahy23
08-01-2009, 02:48 PM
You guys need to remember the amount of weight that is going over the rear axle on these things. It is much easier to do in a truck as the bed is so light over those back tires. It is even worse with the 4X4s, due to the fact, that even when you are in 2WD there is still a small amount of power going to the differential, so you are never really in 2WD.

exactly..especially after you add in 250 lbs of stereo equipment and passangers since their weight is also over the axle..go throw 800 lbs in the rear of your bed and see how easily it spins them lol..i suppose they are better for hooking up once you do have the power though lol

Max
08-01-2009, 03:15 PM
I'd rather not spin my 20s let alone 24s. Tires are expensive as hell go buy some 16s if you like burnouts :cheers:

Rollin Thunder
08-01-2009, 04:03 PM
exactly..especially after you add in 250 lbs of stereo equipment and passangers since their weight is also over the axle..go throw 800 lbs in the rear of your bed and see how easily it spins them lol..i suppose they are better for hooking up once you do have the power though lol

I can spin in the yukon. Turn off TC pop it in R, floor it and spin city. Can get a mild chirp in drive, in the rain I get some spin. IN the silverado I get spin dry, and in wet weather get spin going from 30-50. If I start off wet in the silverado It spins even in second and I have to let off before it does a 180 on me.

Mr.Martin
08-02-2009, 01:25 AM
Even with everything in my sig my 2wd tahoe will still not turn the tires over unless its raining and im putting a little over 320hp down to the wheels.

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its a peppy truck but still not enough power to do a pppeeeeelllll out! :)

JennaBear
08-02-2009, 01:27 AM
Time to be force fed!

Donkey Punch
08-02-2009, 01:46 AM
Time to be force fed!

+1 and im sure the 305's don't help much... throw some cheap 265's on... :gr_grin: but then again... if you want to smokem get someting lighter

Cobra
08-02-2009, 03:08 AM
You guys need to remember the amount of weight that is going over the rear axle on these things. It is much easier to do in a truck as the bed is so light over those back tires. It is even worse with the 4X4s, due to the fact, that even when you are in 2WD there is still a small amount of power going to the differential, so you are never really in 2WD.

I have to agree weight is a definite factor compared to a truck. MAkes a lot of sense.... nice to have that power like JK but then again tires are expensive. Either way I found this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JW2QUxec08&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2Fvideosear ch%3Fhl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBS%5FenUS328US331%26um%3 D1%26q%3Dnelson%2520performance%2520yukon%26ie%3DU TF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Div%26star&feature=player_embedded

tires must have no traction cuz my 22" wont spin if its not wet or going around a corner.

Mr.Martin
08-02-2009, 04:42 AM
what the hell... I remember when my tahoe was bone stock, wheels and all it would not do a burn out but if you search youtube there are a butt load of stock ones doing it lol.

DallasD
08-02-2009, 03:37 PM
5.3 port and polished heads $500
Crane Cam $350
Pacesetter LT headers $300
CAI $250
BB Tune $350-$500

Will give you about 120hp+ should do the trick.

JKmotorsports
08-02-2009, 04:32 PM
what the hell... I remember when my tahoe was bone stock, wheels and all it would not do a burn out but if you search youtube there are a butt load of stock ones doing it lol.

I've seen some kids that throw crap like tire shine on the tread and sit in a small puddle of tire shine just to get it going. Might be how these stockers are doing it.

Nickleahy23
08-02-2009, 06:57 PM
5.3 port and polished heads $500
Crane Cam $350
Pacesetter LT headers $300
CAI $250
BB Tune $350-$500

Will give you about 120hp+ should do the trick.

lq4 6.0 $700

will be just as much power as a cammed 5.3, way cheaper, and less work

DallasD
08-02-2009, 07:21 PM
how is swapping a motor less work then slapping heads and a cam in. What kind of power does the 6.0 have stock???

Max
08-02-2009, 08:21 PM
325

DallasD
08-02-2009, 10:49 PM
So 325 stock hp and with the mods I said it would put you at around 400-425. I like mine even though it is a little more money.

Nickleahy23
08-03-2009, 12:28 AM
how is swapping a motor less work then slapping heads and a cam in. What kind of power does the 6.0 have stock???

simply unhook all connectors from motor, and lines from fuel and power steering, coolent etc..unbolt it from the trans and unbolt the motor mounts, pull it and then put the new one in and clip everything back together..3-4 hour job..pullin heads, dealing with gaskets, lifters etc is more time consuming..from what ive read there isnt much that needs to be done with the heads, and from what i was told that with a cam and headers id be just over a stock 6.0..so a 6.0 with just a BB tune would be equal...then it leaves you with more potential to cam it where with the 5.3 you are at your limit without going forced

DallasD
08-03-2009, 09:09 AM
If you are an experienced mechanic at a shop with a lift and all the air tools you could imagine it will take 2-3 hours just to pull the motor. Not as easy as you may think it is. I have done a motor swap in a shop that I was working at on my old car and it took me and the mechanic with 20+ years and all the tool we could ever need about 7 hours to do the whole swap they don't go in as fast as they come out.


A fully ported head will get me more than 325 hp. Also replacing your cam is not a hard job if you know what you are doing. A heads, cam, exhaust package will get you over 400hp. Plus arent the performance mods for the 6.0 more money?

Max
08-03-2009, 12:22 PM
The 6.0 and 5.3 share the same aftermarket parts, he's going with the best possible option for the money he has and it leaves a world of potential once he's ready to start modding the internals of the 6.0. I can't see the engine swap taking much more than 6 hours which is far less involved than the cam/spring swap for an individual in his position.

Travieso
08-03-2009, 12:34 PM
very good input guys, I have a few questions How hard would it be to put a cam in my 5.3 and what type of cam would i need, Would i need to upgrade fuel pump, water pump heads Etc ? Basically i want to prep my motor ready for a super charger, so in the mean time i think my next mod would be a CAI, I've been reading about a CAI going for about 70 bucks around here Anyone has a link on that ? So i could check it out, Second Anyone has a link to headers that would actually fit my Tahoe ? Third What's this bbtune i keep hearing about how do i injure about it ? What are the advantages of this (bbtune) vs a Programmer I appreciate everyone's input,

Chevy Needs to make a SS Tahoe........ I was originally going to pick a 2006 Trailblazer SS at the time but didn't like it cause it was to small imo...

Ducati18
08-03-2009, 02:07 PM
I have 2005 GMC yukon with 22'S and a magna-charger. It will smoke the tires. Everything elsa is stock.

Rollin Thunder
08-03-2009, 02:18 PM
I've seen some kids that throw crap like tire shine on the tread and sit in a small puddle of tire shine just to get it going. Might be how these stockers are doing it.

When I was 16 I used to use bleach. Much cheaper and worked like a charm. Hell I still do that.

blueflamed03
08-03-2009, 02:29 PM
very good input guys, I have a few questions How hard would it be to put a cam in my 5.3 and what type of cam would i need, Would i need to upgrade fuel pump, water pump heads Etc ? Basically i want to prep my motor ready for a super charger, so in the mean time i think my next mod would be a CAI, I've been reading about a CAI going for about 70 bucks around here Anyone has a link on that ? So i could check it out, Second Anyone has a link to headers that would actually fit my Tahoe ? Third What's this bbtune i keep hearing about how do i injure about it ? What are the advantages of this (bbtune) vs a Programmer I appreciate everyone's input,

look off to right, see Blackbear under vendors, click that.

cam, about 6 hour swap. You need cam, new springs, gaskets,etc.
Search AEM Brute Force CAI.
Headers, search Lpparts or Pacesetter. LPP is by far less expensive and fit great.
Tune, by FAR is best mod I have done.

JennaBear
08-03-2009, 06:16 PM
All our vehicles can smoke the tires, must be the location...:hands:

Nickleahy23
08-04-2009, 01:06 PM
All our vehicles can smoke the tires, must be the location...:hands:

or the significant other lol

blueflamed03
08-04-2009, 01:12 PM
All our vehicles can smoke the tires, must be the magnacharger/cam/tune/tuner...:hands:
fixed :D

BlackDenali
08-04-2009, 01:15 PM
:lol:

JennaBear
08-04-2009, 07:40 PM
I am a damn good tuner :rockit:

Travieso
08-05-2009, 10:57 AM
when will you guys be in Southern California ?

blueflamed03
08-05-2009, 10:58 AM
I am a damn good tuner :rockit:
:Handshake:

Rollin Thunder
08-05-2009, 12:56 PM
I am a damn good tuner :rockit:

bow chica bow wow.

JennaBear
08-05-2009, 09:03 PM
when will you guys be in Southern California ?

Nothing on the schedule as of late, but if he goes, it will be during the week as his weekends are booked solid until the end of Nov.

:Handshake:

bow chica bow wow.

:boobs: